Former Intelligence Officials Testify About Damage Caused by Outing

[understandinglife]

Former Intelligence Officials Testify About Damage Caused by Outing of Covert CIA Agent

July 22, 2005

At a hearing co-chaired by Rep. Waxman and Senator Byron Dorgan, several former intelligence officials testify about the damage to national security caused by the White House outing of covert CIA official Valerie Plame Wilson.

Rep. Waxman's Opening Statement

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722123920-40581.pdf

Rep. Holt's Opening Statement

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722142435-15458.pdf

Rep. Slaughter's Opening Statement

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722142330-14066.pdf

Sen. Dorgan's Opening Statement

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722171759-91552.pdf

Statement of James Marcinkowski

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722113239-05007.pdf

Statement of Larry C. Johnson

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722113326-59442.pdf

Statement of W. Patrick Lang

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722171657-61418.pdf

Witness Biographies

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722171832-99377.pdf

Fact Sheet: Administration Security Breaches Involving Valerie Plame Wilson

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722111008-83368.pdf

Fact Sheet: Karl Rove’s Nondisclosure Agreement

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722112741-08280.pdf

Hearing Transcript

http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/Documents/20050722145835-13707.pdf

Congressman Conyers - Last Throes of Credibility: Five Years of Lies and Deception

http://politerra.com/images/Iraqchronologyrawstory.pdf

Committee on Government Reform Minority Office
http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/story.asp?ID=898&Issue=Disclosure+of+CIA+Agent+Identity

Decided to post this as a separate thread so the references would be readily available in one post.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. I am watching it now

It's on CSPAN.

[rodeodance]

2. "a true patriot would shut"--GRAND statement--

[Swamp Rat]

3. Won't be long for Rove...

:)

[understandinglife]

7. Weisbrot, distributed by Knight-Rider/Tribune - "Rove Scandal Could Stick"

Rove Scandal Could Stick

by Mark Weisbrot

July 22, 2005

Distributed to newspapers by Knight-Ridder/Tribune Information Services

The Bush Administration has ploughed through so many scandals that it is easy to cynically dismiss the current controversy over White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove ..... this one has a federal special prosecutor (Patrick Fitzgerald) working on it. And Fitzgerald seems serious ....

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Based on what we already know, the logical next question is: what did President Bush and Vice President Cheney know and when did they know it?

Of course, the much bigger issue is the one from which Rove's troubles were born: a president and his advisors led us into a war based on false information. There was no attempted Iraqi purchase of uranium from Africa, nor could Iraq "launch a biological or chemical attack 45 minutes after the order is given," as the Bush Administration claimed. Nor was Saddam Hussein in league with Al Qaeda, as the majority of Americans were led to believe. In a war that now appears to have been completely unnecessary, more than 1,760 U.S. soldiers have been killed and many thousands more have been disabled; tens of thousands of Iraqis have also perished.

More at the link:
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0722-22.htm

I agree with Mr Wiesbrot - "Karl Rove's actions against Valerie and Joseph Wilson were just one small part of the Bush Administration's effort to deceive the public and make the case for war. But for now, this is the only part that is subject to legal scrutiny. And it's not going away anytime soon.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[understandinglife]

12. Fitzgerald: apolitical and only interested in the big fish.

A few insightful comments about Fitzgerald in the Financial Times.

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Even so, he ruefully registers Mr Fitzgerald's appeal. “Many of my law students would surrender a body part for a job in Fitzgerald's office. The office has many high-quality people, and it's a gangbusters kind of job. Prosecutors get to run secret grand juries, wire undercover agents, and interrogate mobsters as well as argue cases before juries.”

Mr Fitzgerald's work ethic also wins fans. A 2002 profile in Chicago Magazine noted that friends were concerned about his neglected cat, so they kidnapped or catnapped the cat, taking pictures of it as they dangled it over the Brooklyn bridge or putting a gun to its head, to pressure Mr Fitzgerald to look after it. The cat was sent to a farm.

What drives Mr Fitzgerald is harder to answer. He is considered apolitical. Rather than harbouring personal political ambitions, he is motivated by a sense of how public officials ought to act. His actions have had clear consequences. “State government has changed. George Ryan didn't run for re-election. City government is changing quickly. Mayor Daley has fired six commissioners in four months. And now the White House and its relationship with the press has changed because of this guy,” says Mr Stewart.

For White House officials keen to predict the future, Bruce Braun, partner at Winston & Strawn, a law firm in Chicago, points to his record. “He is patient, methodical and willing to work his way up the chain to get to the heart of the fraud. He is not content with getting minnows but goes after the bigger fish. He will leave no stone unturned.”

From The persistent prosecutor in pursuit of political sleaze

By Caroline Daniel

July 22 2005

More at link:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/3f1a68b8-fac8-11d9-a0f6-00000e2511c8.html

Mr Fitzgerald appears to be the strict inverse of Bush/Rove and the neoconsters. They should be very concerned.


Peace.

www.missionnotaccomplished.us

[pacalo]

19. This sentence has burst my bubble...

But for now, this is the only part that is subject to legal scrutiny.

Does this mean that an investigation into this administration's deceptions about the lead-up to war is out of bounds for Fitzgerald; that he is authorized only to investigate the Plame leak?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

18. Interesting.

Filtered through water, Rove loses the lizard skin and boils. Call Heloise!

[Burried News]

4. Not the first time a group of patriots has spoken out ...

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=32003
"Career chiefs of mission and retired four-star military leaders are launching a nationwide campaign to stress the need for change in U.S. foreign and defense policy. They are deeply concerned by the damage the Bush Administration has caused to our national and international interests and U.S. worldwide status."

http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/headlines04/0520-02.htm
"This effort was strongly resisted by Powell, a retired army general, when it came to his attention, and by the Judge Advocates Generals (JAG) Corps, the formal name given to the military's lawyers. They argued, among other things, that the introduction of ''stress and duress'' techniques, sleep deprivation and other methods that violate the Conventions would not only result in dubious intelligence, but could also be cited as a precedent for use against U.S. soldiers who fell into enemy hands.

Dissenters, however, were essentially excluded from the discussion, and, according to 'Newsweek', new techniques were formally approved during the Iraq invasion in April 2003, although Feith's immediate superior, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz testified last week he was unaware of such a decision.

At the same time, senior Pentagon officials also authorized the exclusion of JAG officers from observing interrogations to ensure they complied with the Conventions. That was a major departure from the practice in the 1991 Gulf War, when JAG officers were present in all interrogation facilities and could intercede if they witnessed violations of the Conventions.

Even after the new orders came down, senior JAG officers did not give up. According to a number of accounts, a delegation of officers contacted Scott Horton, a former high-ranking JAG officer and chairman of the Committee on International Human Rights of the New York City Bar Association, to see if he and like-minded attorneys would intervene. "

[Nay]

5. Don't you get it, CIA? The Bushlers DON'T CARE WHAT U THINK.

Now what are you going to do about it? God knows you've meddled in everything else -- what's holding you back?

[Amonester]

20. Yeah. You must do anything legal to protect yourself from...

these traitorous Conservatives in order to make sure they won't destroy you first, the country next, and then the world, in their psychopathic quest for total, unreasonably idealistic domination.

Please, help restore your country's proper prestige as well as her true, honest, and cooperative leadership by refusing to follow these criminal Conservatives' total contempt for any law they don't like.

Whatever needs to be done to remove them legally is long overdue.

[IChing]

6. thanks for the links

Not to have anyone be my research monkey but

what democrats on the senate intelligence committee were no shows?

what democrats on the house intelligence committee were no shows?

[bvar22]

8. Thanks for the collection.

Bookmarked and recommended!

I watched the hearing today, and they were STRESSING that the Republican's policy of DO NOTHING has DAMAGED the Intelligence Agencies WORLDWIDE! We are losing foreign assets because the bush* administration has FAILED to take ANY action against the obvious perpetrators for over TWO FUCKING YEARS!

America is MUCH LESS SAFE, our National Security has been grievously damaged because of the partisan political agenda of the bush*/Republican administration. Republican Congress shares the BLAME! Their responsibility is oversight!

The WORLD has been watching. The terrorists are GLOATING, our sources are RUNNING! Republicans are HELPING the TERRORISTS!!!

[bvar22]

9. Watch the REPLAY...CSPAN 8PM Eastern.

If you don't get CSPAN, watch Over-the-Net:

http://www.c-span.org/watch/


THIS IS A DO NOT MISS!!!!!

Conyers, Slaughter, Dorgan, Waxman were BRILLIANT!!!

The word "TREASON" protected by the White House was used.

[Bill Bored]

10. Watch it OnLine Anytime!

<rtsp://video.c-span.org/project/ter/ter072205_identity.rm?mode=compact>

[mzmolly]

11. Broken link?

:hi:

[PowerToThePeople]

17. Seems broken. Neo-fascists must have shut it down. n/t

[Bill Bored]

23. Worked for me.

Might be a lot of requests for this one.
There seems to be an intermittent problem.
Try the CSpan.org home page which has the same link via a JavaScript.
It runs for 2:14.

[alfredo]

13. Kicking

so I can come back and kick again.

[moondust]

14. Great testimony.

Was just watching part of it on C-Span. Whew! Fantastic discussion!

I couldn't help but recall all the speeches and serious discussions that ensued after 9/11 and then at the time of "no WMD" about the U.S. shortage of HUMINT both in penetrating terrorist groups and in knowing what was happening on the ground in Iraq. And that we desperately needed to beef up our human intelligence capabilites. While all that was being said Bushco was actually undermining U.S. intelligence by outing Plame and who knows who else associated with her. And it only gets worse as long as Bush refuses to do anything about it like he said he would.

Who in the world would want to risk their life and their family working for U.S. intelligence knowing that the politicians at the top--your ultimate protectors--may decide to hand you over to your adversaries at any given moment? You'd have to be nuts to trust them.

[henslee]

15. yes.

[eridani]

16. Kick n/t

[journalist3072]

21. I listened to Mr. Larry Johnson..

I had the pleasure of listening to Mr. Larry Johnson's interview on the Al Franken show yesterday!

And I was truly spellbound by what he had to say.

He said that when he and Valerie Plame were colleagues, even he did not know her last time. He only knew her as "Valerie P." That's just how seriously they all took their roles as covert CIA operatives.

He said it wasn't unitl after her name was leaked, that a mutual friend told him "That's OUR Val."

It was one of the most memorable interviews I have heard! He was just so intelligent and so outraged at what the Bush administration has done to Valerie Plame.

[Bill Bored]

24. And even better, he's a Republican! nt

[burrowowl]

22. Kick and KICK! eom

[Starfury]

25. Excellent! n/t

[orleans]

26. what a great thread! just what i've been looking for!!!

thank you very much for posting this!!!!!

:hug:

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

27. Great post. n/t

[Disturbed]

28. Republicans are HELPING the TERRORISTS!!!

Terrorists are helping the Bush Regime create a Police State in Amerika.

They seem to be partners.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

29. The republicans are behaving like naughty 8-year-old boys...

...and should be treated as such - grounded and sent to their room without dinner.

[Karenina]

30. Kick!

:kick:

[Al-CIAda]

31. .

[understandinglife]

32. JIM MARCINKOWSKI Former CIA Case Officer On Brad Show Today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4175740&mesg_id=4175740


Peace.

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[DeepModem Mom]

33. Thank you, understandinglife!