German TV Reports: 108 Children being held in Abu Ghraib

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

German TV news report (and take a deep breath, folks): Children at Abu Ghraib

Three days ago, a German TV newsmagazine called Report Mainz broadcast an eight-minute segment reporting that the International Red Cross found at least 107 children in coaliton-administered detention centers in Iraq.

The report also quotes from a yet-unpublished June 2004 UNICEF report, which (as near as I can tell through my crappy German) confirms that children were routinely arrested and "interned" in a camp in Um-Qasr. UNICEF seems particularly vexed with the "internment" status, since that means indefinite detention.

Another storm seems about to begin. Possibly a large one.

Even if you have no German at all, hit the link and watch the video. (Click where it says "Beitrag ansehen" and you'll get a RealVideo stream. I'd include a direct link but the server seems to require you to link from the page.) There's some footage of the internment camps here that you're not likely to see on American TV. The link also includes a complete transcript, in German.

In addition to the Red Cross and UNICEF concerns, Report Mainz broadcast an original interview with U.S. Army Sgt. Samuel Provance, who was stationed for six months at Abu Ghraib and later quite famously blew the whistle about abuses there and the subsequent cover-up. In this interview, Provance confirms the presence of teenagers in Abu Ghraib, describing the torture-by-cold-and-exposure of a teenage boy in order to get his father to talk.

More: http://www.thismodernworld.com/weblog/mtarchives/week_2004_07_04.html#001637

[acmejack]

1. and the hits just keep coming

I cannot remain still much longer. I have written, I have called, I have organized and contributed time and money. Eventually the time will come for concrete demonstration of our unwillingness to be passive members of this terrible, evil society which we have become.

My question; How will we know when it is that time?

[walldude]

18. The time is coming, Sept 24th

http://unitedforpeace.org/article.php?list=type&type=91

[cynatnite]

20. If I can afford it, I'm coming with my teenage daughter

I'll wear a DU shirt.

[Clark2008]

22. Are those your family members in the picture?

That's very touching.

And so very sad.

But thank you for their service!

[walldude]

23. Yes.. I did a post on it a few days ago

We buried my brother-in-law(he's the one in the back) on Tues. My family has 2 other flags from both my grandfathers. 5 in all.

[joemurphy]

2. Jeez, if this is true this is possibly the worst kind of thing I've ever

heard. This is inhumane and totally inconsistent with American values. The crap that went on before at Abu Ghraib alone should have had us take names and incarcerate those responsible. The abuse of minors is totally beyond the pale.

This whole rotten administration -- the stupid, crass, arrogant neocon bastards that are doing these things -- must pay for it.

This makes me ashamed to be an American.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. I know.

It doesn't suffuse me with the golden light of unquestioning patriotism either.

[Raster]

4. Anyone have any further questions why bushco* wanted to pull America

out of the International Court and international judicial treaties??? Hmmm?

[w13rd0]

5. And now we have an answer to the question:

"Will the Bushbots continue to support Bush as if he were the second coming if it's demonstratably proven that he kills and tortures children and then tries to cover it up?"

[teach1st]

6. It's a year old...

[liveoaktx]

7. Yes, a year old and no major media at the time paid any attention

at least in the United States. The reports were in a number of international country's news.

[teach1st]

10. Nor did Americans who heard pf it....

I posted all the links last year in the politics section of a teacher board and they were ignored, except by a righie who claimed that it was impossible, but if we were holding children they probably deserved it.

[cynatnite]

8. I'm torn by so many emotions

Hatred, sadness, rage are the only ones I can describe. I want to cry and at the same time I want to scream in anger at the atrocities that continue to happen in our name.

[MountainLaurel]

9. The blood on U.S. hands

Will never wash away. Torturing a teenager so his father will talk (the father probably doesn't know anything to begin with, but why let that stop us?)? Heinous.

:cry:

[burythehatchet]

12. I am father of a teenage boy. I imagine myself in the position of that

father. IF I made it out of there alive, my life would be committed to nothing but blood vengeance.

[MountainLaurel]

14. Do doubt

To quote a bumpersticker I saw: "We're making terrorists faster than we can kill them."

[cynatnite]

17. I'd want to kill whoever would do that to my kid, too

What in the hell do people expect? This makes me fucking crazy!

Corporate media doesn't have the guts to report something like this.

:grr: :cry:

[DistressedAmerican]

11. Thank You For This Info. KIck and Nomination!

I will add the links and a write-up to the headlines section of endtheabuses. The video is definitely very interesting.


Great find!

[Horse with no Name]

13. The pieces are fitting

The rumours of children being raped at Abu Ghraib.
I had wondered where the children came from and why they were there...I guess now we know.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

16. We will never be forgiven n/t

[DistressedAmerican]

15. Reposted To ENDTHEABUSES HERE:

http://www.endtheabuses.org/Abu-Ghraib-Children.htm



Important Story! Thanks again.
DA

[kliljedahl]

21. Nice job, damn you're quick

Keith’s Barbeque Central

[brettdale]

19. kick

kick

[ohio_liberal]

24. Don't forget now

This article has been hanging around for a year now. And we still have nothing.

[silverweb]

25. There are no words for our shame.

:cry:

For this, combined with so many other crimes against humanity in the distorted, twisted names of "freedom" and "democracy" (translated as corporatism and capitalist exploitation), AmeriKa will never be able to atone.

[DanCa]

26. This is why the push religion

Guilt guilt guilt. And they call me a toddler killer cause I want stem cell. Know I know where they came up with that one.