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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:25 PM
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POLL: 60% America Say World War III Likely...
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 06:45 PM by Rainscents
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Jul 23, 6:44 PM EDT

Poll: Americans Say World War III Likely

By WILL LESTER
Associated Press Writer




WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans are far more likely than the Japanese to expect another world war in their lifetime, according to AP-Kyodo polling 60 years after World War II ended. Most people in both countries believe the first use of a nuclear weapon is never justified.

Those findings come six decades after the United States dropped atomic bombs on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The war claimed about 400,000 U.S. troops around the world, more than three times that many Japanese troops and at least 300,000 Japanese civilians.


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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:41 PM
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1. If we survived WWIII, and those 50 MT H-bombs, we'll make it through this.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 06:42 PM by leveymg
Nothing that BushCo and UBL can threaten us with compares with SS-18s, Bear Bombers, Typhoons, and all the rest of the Cold War. We're going to collapse just like the USSR, for exactly the same reasons and under the same management . . .

and the world will be safe, again, for a while.:bounce:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:44 PM
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2. I love your analogies!!! You've got it right!
:evilgrin:
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:50 PM
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4. We're casting for the future. They're past ,or under indictment.
Make your own movie.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:50 PM
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3. That's occurred to me, too. Any guesses as to the next super power?
If it were a choice, I'd vote for Venezuela. But I'm thinking it'll probably be China.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:04 PM
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6. If you don't speak Spanish, invest in Guyana.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 07:11 PM by leveymg
Shanghai is New York in 1965. That doesn't give them a lot of time to change their business model again, before they get locked in to a losing deal.

They need to find a new market. I'd go for the EU, Iran, central Asia (Caspian Sea LPG countries), Aus-NZ (high solar energy-H2 generation) potential (and very easy to do business in), and India (the next great global civilization that already has a huge diaspara market).

The US can still be a player, but we need to learn how to play with others better. That puts us DU-social democratic world-centric types in charge of running foreign affairs during the 21st Century. The neo-cons have no more future than the Moscow-centered CPUSA members had after the 1930s. They're history. We're the future. Call us moderates, by world standards.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:10 PM
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7. Between here and there...
...history will, no doubt, record that the bloodshed was heavy.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:20 PM
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8. I don't think there will be much more bloodshed.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 07:37 PM by leveymg
Even the CIA and DIA have turned on the Administration. BushCo is contained, and can do nothing until the Justice system deals with them. The thing that not many of us yet realize, is that we've already won.

All of those moderates without a clue are looking for a real, well-thought out alternative to the neo-cons. Where are they going to find that? The fact is, that this country needs vital, clever, expansive leadership, one that's not aggressive and dangerous to the rest of the world, which is going to go on and grow, with or without us.

Who do they have to turn to, but the American Left. That's us.
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:56 PM
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9. I hope you're right on this...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:30 PM
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12. All we have to do is act as if we've won, and we're there.
That's the way it always works. It's up to us what we do with that.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:10 PM
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11. Like Rainscents said, I hope you're right.
Your logic is sound. Maybe it's time to be hopeful, again.
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CatholicEdHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 06:52 PM
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5. Wait a minute, wasn't WWIII, the Cold War?
According to the usual sources' propaganda? Aren't we in "WWIV"?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 07:57 PM
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10. as badly as Bushler has screwed up
I wouldn't be surprised if a "World vs. the US" scenario happened in a concerted effort to get rid of us as a rogue state.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-05 08:35 PM
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13. No, they need us as the primary technology and consumer country.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-05 08:36 PM by leveymg
China and the rest can't just disregard us. We will no longer rule, but we retain a strong position to renegotiate the rules.

Now, we have to convince the rest of our fellow Americans that they'll get a far better deal if they have us negotiate rather than let BushCo bomb us all into oblivion.
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