Photos so violent and repulsive they cannot be seen by American people

[kentuck]

So awful that they now have a higher secret code than the Valerie Wilson files? A truth so hideous that the people cannot handle it. It must be locked away in darkness - as dark as the hearts that committed the acts and as cloven-hooved as those that now conceal them. Just another little secret in this war of many secrets.

[mmonk]

1. Everyone should be required to see them

who is of voting age.

[Carla in Ca]

29. I know what you are saying, and agree to a point.

I think every kid should have to visit a prison before they can graduate from high school. But, when these pics and videos are released, I will not look at them. I just couldn't handle it.

I want the people who think the lunatics running the WH are doing a great job to see them. I want the people who don't care that so many have died in Iraq to see them.
And then, maybe, they will see this administration for who THEY really are...madmen.

[MadisonProgressive]

2. Link??

[NorCalDem]

3. There is no leak, I mean link...

They haven't been released yet, and probably never will.

[rodeodance]

4. I do not want others to decide for me whether i can 'handle' it or not. NO

doubt they will be sad-and repulsive and sickening.

[rodeodance]

5. I am ambivilant as to whether or not they should be released-as they

will undoubtably put our soldiers more at risk than they are already. I do not want them killed so I/we can see pictures. It is a a elima for me.

[shraby]

6. They need to be seen in order to bring

this administration to justice about them. This admin. rewrote the rules and the results must be seen.

[mmonk]

8. I think the American people

are probably the last to know.

[Booster]

18. I agree with you that we are probably the last to know. I really don't

want to look at them either, but think we all must. We all need to look at them and stop what is happening in our name in the rest of the world. We are no better than the people who are shown in these photos if we don't do something to stop it.

[Warren Stupidity]

10. ain't no dilemma at all

As long as the truth is hidden the right wing bullshit machine can continue to bray that it is all frat pranks and fun'n'games. Do you think that the Iraqis don't know what is being done to their children? The only people who don't know what is going is us, and we need to know right now what is being done in our name, AND THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE NEED TO BE BROUGHT TO JUSICE.

[Jacobin]

11. Our soldiers are at risk because they were put there by a cabal of

neo-con fucks who are utterly insane.

We need to see the photos for the same reason the germans had to see pictures of the aftermath of the death camps.

[arewenotdemo]

24. Absolutely

Thank you.

[alfredo]

14. But if it wakes America out of its slumber, makes them stand

with us against the war, then it will be worth it. The more outrage her at home, the sooner our troops will return.

We have two goals, end the war, and bring the bush junta to justice. First we need to do what we can to end the war. To do that we need to mobilize the American people.

It took the Mi Lai massacre and the Kent State murders to turn the American people against the war.

[Warren DeMontague]

23. The pictures aren't the problem. It's the actions.

We have a right to know the truth, particularly in that it was done in our name.

[MisterP]

27. the Iraqis probably aready know: the few that escape tell others

of the horrors. Note that the mercs and South African mass murderers were torched and hung from the bridge a few days BEFORE reports of Abu Ghraib even touched the public nets in the U.S.

[Rageneau]

7. The Freepers Are Being Big Hypocrites About This Story

Most of them agree that the photos and video of what Graham (R-KKK) calls "rape and murder" should never see the light of day. IOW, they're all for covering such horrible crimes up, rather than chance BushCo looking bad. They want to burn any pictures that show US forces sodomizing children or beating people to death.

But also posted on FreeRepublic today is a story about a bus driver who took $10 to look the other way while some hoodlums raped a kid. Boy, are the Freepers incensed about that! They want to build a scaffold and hang him tonight, such is their righteous indignation.

Do none of them realize that -- had the bus driver been working at Abu Gharib -- they'd be taking HIS side?

[Union Thug]

13. Freepers support child rape and abuse...I said this in another thread...

Freepers are all for it, so long as they don't have blonde hair and blue eyes. This thread just proves what I surmised earlier...

Fuck them all. So long as their precious little half-wit, elitist, boy-king of a president is protected, everything is A-OKAY

[kskiska]

20. Some of them may just be changing their minds

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1449267/posts

To: greatglory
If it's on video and Donald Rumsfeld is describing it as sadistic and inhumane...I don't think we can just brush it off as "Dems are at it again."

I might agree though, that the Dems probably wet their pants with delight over the story.
8 posted on 07/23/2005 7:06:46 PM PDT by TNdandelion

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To: TNdandelion

Agreed.
If these stories are true, these men and women have done far more than just disgrace their country and their uniform. They should be prosecuted no less vigorously than the likes of John Couey or that POS Duncan.

23 posted on 07/23/2005 7:18:33 PM PDT by RedRover

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To: TNdandelion

Child rape or
woman rape or
sodomy.

Pissed-off doesn't begin to cover it.

26 posted on 07/23/2005 7:21:23 PM PDT by Sally Golightly

[DesEtoiles]

9. Please send that in as a letter to the editor of your local paper

[Swamp Rat]

12. As soon as I find a link to them, everyone I know,

and everyone in my neighborhood is going to see them. There will be many many fliers with photos of child rape, put on church and school bulletin boards, cafes, telephone poles, windshields, park benches, grocery store shopping carts... ad infinitum.

[msongs]

15. just pretend they are video games like the ones loved here so much :-) n/t

[spooked]

16. There may also be a 25% tax to view them once they're released

n/t

[FourStarDemocrat]

17. Those photos are going to come out one way or another...

It may be the result of a court fight, or a leak. They can't keep them hidden in a bag forever.

[whistle]

19. Are these photos worse than the photos we saw of atrosities...

...in the Nazi concentration camps? Maybe the American Neo-conservatives/fundamentalist/republicans should be forced to see the prison torture photos to understand fully what actions they are supporting in America's wars on terror.

[Javaman]

21. After my uncle help liberate a concentration camp in Europe during WWII..

His commander ordered all the residents of all the surrounding towns to march through the camp and bury all the poor people that died because they were enslaved and killed by hitler and his henchmen. All those stupid bastards that were in denial about the atrocities were suddenly forced to confront the worst of their nightmares and the monstrosity that their gov't created.

This is the same reason why every single American must be forced to view these photos.

Not only have the republicans fucked up, we Democrats are complicit in this as well.
We as Amercians have failed and we should be ashamed of ourselves.

[napi21]

22. If they are as explicit as we've heard, we'll never see them.

I personally think they should be released to a specific web site where those who want to see them can, but not on the nightly news or CNN.

Do you remember the video of the beheadings? I know they weren't on an American web site, but there were even people here on DU who wouldn't take a look.

I did, and I knew when I called up the site that it was going to be brutal and disgusting. It was, but I was prepared.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

25. It will encourage even greater attrocities to come if photos suppressed

Those who accept the suppression of these photos and videos act like this is over, that our government has learned its lesson, and that it won't do it again. On the contrary. Quite the contrary. If we allow the government to avoid publishing these awful images, it will set a bad, bad precedent. It will give carte blanche to our government to commit even worse attrocitites in the future, knowing that they are shielded from view by our courts regarding ANYTHING they do. The only way to stop this and from having even worse things done in our name in the future is to get these photos before the American public. The publication of the photos of the massacre of civilians at My Lai during the Vietnam war was unfortunate and very disturbing, but necessary.

[nadinbrzezinski]

26. NOt quite these photos see the light of day

they will be added to teh Geneva files, and war criminals do not want Geneva to see them.

[wli]

28. there may be legal impediments to distribution

For instance, they may very well qualify as child pornography.

This is not very much of an excuse. We have a right to know what millions of jobs and trillions of tax dollars have paid for. We have a right to know the purposes for which two fraudulent elections were arranged. And we have a right to prosecute these criminals, for the justice we ourselves deserve, and for whatever partial absolution delivering them to the Iraqi people for judgment at their hands may entail.

[OneBlueSky]

30. if these are ever released, the screams of that child . . .

as he is being brutally raped may turn out to be the screams that save the world . . . horrific as that may be to contemplate . . .

[CWebster]

31. I don't hear Ms Hillary speaking out against

the repulsive violence.

In the real world.