The United States is using Iraq as a human shield.

[Jara sang]

Isn't that what "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here." means? We have turned Iraq into a battleground to the detriment of that country and it's people, over 100,000 of whom have died so that the US isn't attacked. If there is a better definition of "human shield" I can't think of one. I believe that is what we accused Saddam Hussein of, as well.

[jean]

1. you're exactly right - good one

[Goldmund]

2. That's a great fucking point

It's a logical extrapolation of their propaganda.

[5X]

3. Agreed, and our policy is also racist.

nominated.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

4. "Human" Shield? Naah..they're just Iraqis.

Not real "humans. Not civilized like us. We killed 100,000+ people to avenge 3000 (Please don't quibble that the Iraqis didn't have anything to do with it - we had to send a "message"). Now, THAT's civilized!

[Pacifist Patriot]

20. Sadly, that is precisely the psychology necessary to perpetuate

crimes like this. Look at Rwanda in the early 90s...and at other times. Countless regions and countries around the globe throughout history and today. The capacity for one homo sapiens to view another as "other" rather than "same" is astounding to me. But that is exactly what happens.

Race, ethnicity, religion, creed, etc. make the division easier but it's hardly necessary. Arbitrarily assign one person to the G team and another to the H team and you have sown the seeds of genocide. How do we transcend this disgrace?

[Karenina]

21. The Israeli-trained Brit squad

wanted to "send a message" to the "Pakis" and offed someone who had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. OOPS!!! Civilization on the march!

[wookie294]

5. Well, it's a mirage

The human shield isn't really a shield. America only THINKS it's a shield from terrorism. In fact, it's a promoter of terrorism.

[Jara sang]

10. Which is evidenced in the recent attacks in London.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

6. wow, excellent point. eom

[Hippo_Tron]

7. No, "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here"

is a lame excuse to justify the invasion of Iraq, even though there were no WMDs. I know that many people may find this hard to believe, but terrorists can multi-task. I think that the London bombings are pretty clear evidence of that.

[GreenPartyVoter]

8. Yes. That's an amazing point!

[shelley806]

9. IMHO, it's propaganda for an artificial 'War on Terror'...where is this

war? It was NOT in Iraq prior to our invasion, for which 9/11 gave them an excuse. The PNAC's have planned on War in Iraq since the late 90's...PNAC is filled with War Profiteers and Oil interests. They are CREATING war, because its SO good for their infinite, greedy pockets. If it really was about WMDs or Terror, that would be much more palatable to the American public and the world at large. Imagine killing thousands of innocent human beings for greed. But that is exactly what is happening.

Few Questions to Consider:

1.) How much has the War in Iraq cost taxpayers so far? (and this doesn't consider all of the health and benefit costs to our wounded soldiers)

2.) How much of this cost has been for contracts to B* cronies in Oil, Energy, Port building, etc?

3.) What are the profits for such companies; i.e. the War Profiteers?

[Poiuyt]

11. Kick

Great analogy. I think the whole, "Fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here," is a bunch of bullshit. There's absolutely nothing from preventing terrorists from striking on American soil right now. It also says that an Iraqi life is less valuable than an American. They are available to be sacrificed.

[neweurope]

12. Yes and no. I don't like this:

"We have turned Iraq into a battleground to the detriment of that country and it's people, over 100,000 of whom have died so that the US isn't attacked."

That's what the Bushistas say. It's not fact. You're not massacring Iraqis so that the US won't get attacked. That's BS.

---------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[Goldmund]

14. That's his point

Not that this is an effective "human shield", but that the rationale du jour they're using amounts to the logic of "human shield".

[neweurope]

15. Oops. N/T

-------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[Zhade]

13. Nice quote!

I'll have to remember that one.

[dogday]

16. They will never leave the Middle East

until every last resource is utilized. When it no longer becomes a strategic point of attack on other nations. When they can no longer get away with it.

[KittyWampus]

17. Short & Bittersweet Bit Of Irony.

[Pacifist Patriot]

18. Bingo.

[KC21304]

19. Our troops are also being used as human shields.

And it ain't working.

Fight them over there and we don't have anyone to make us safe here.

[geckosfeet]

22. Our troops are being used as a shield for more than bullets and

bombs.

They are fighting an war that was not necessary nor justified. They are fighting a war so that our lying, treasonous, backstabbing rich boy president can puff out his chest.

They are fighting so that rich corporate entities can become even more obscenely bloated with money.

They are fighting, risking their lives and dieing for next to nothing, to preserve the grotesque profit margins of Halliburton and our presidents associates.

We pay the price here, in this country, in our towns and cities, by sending our neighbors to die.

We pay the price here by incurring huge debts while enriching the already rich.

We pay the price here by enduring the lies, dishonesty, thievery and thuggery of an administration that is immoral and without conscience.

To say that ANYONE benefits from the war, (beyond those corporate entities to whom huge amounts of our national wealth have been transferred to) is a lie and a grand national deceit perpetuated by our leaders.

[FuzzySlippers]

23. That's a logical inference that can be drawn

from the expression "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here".