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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:33 AM
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I'm hurt and confused.
My son is in prison for four more years.
I am rendered aghast and dumfounded from
the frequent expression of graphic punishment
wished upon him.
I have met quite a large number of warm, progressive
folks here.
In my enthusiasim I have posted too many details about my
life so I will be leaving this userID and returning with a different ID.
Please think of people that are incarcerated for property crimes
before you condem(sp?) prisoners to conditions that include
forcible rape.

:wtf:

Thank you to those that have made me feel part of this community.

:hi: :pals: :yourock:
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:36 AM
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1. I don't condemn a single prisoner to forcible rape.
Its an abomination and human rights violation, and there's bipartisian support behind that sentiment.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:51 AM
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9. Thank you
:hi:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:37 AM
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2. I'm sorry to hear about your son.
You are always welcome in this community. I have not read any of your previous posts.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:52 AM
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11. You are so kind.
:pals:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:37 AM
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3. I don't know what happened,
but I'm sorry that you're hurting.
There are a lot of wonderful people here and I'm glad you've decided to stay.
My thoughts are with you and your son.

~L
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:53 AM
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12. I appreciate you good wishes
:loveya:
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:37 AM
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4. Prisons, and the insane reasons some people are in them...
...are one of the major ignored issues of our day.

I look forward to meeting the new you. :hi:



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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:54 AM
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13. I worry about our nation's vengeful attitude.
:hippie:
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:38 AM
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5. I agree. No rape is ever funny and that includes prison rape
Sorry you've had to endure the poor taste and judgement of others on that one. I hope your son does rehabilitate himself when he gets out. It's tough when even progressives seem to disbelieve rehabilitation is possible even though I've seen it up close.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:56 AM
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14. Thank you for your kind thoughts.
:rant: <end rant>
Thanks for the encouragement.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:43 AM
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6. I'm sorry. Sometimes victims get angry and say things they don't
mean - when the anger overtakes them.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:57 AM
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16. Your expression of empathy is warmly recieved.
:hi:
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:47 AM
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7. I've no idea what you're talking about. . .
I didn't see any of the threads on this. Sorry for the grief you've encountered from some very immature and thoughtless people. As someone else posted here, there are a lot of decent people on this board, something you've evidently found. Unfortunately, there are a number of jerks, too.

I know you and I will never meet again on these boards, micrometer_50, but I hope I make your acquaintance under your new name.

Good luck, and may your son be safe until you meet him again, hopefully a changed man as well.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:00 AM
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17. I like your name, Journeyman.
My skills have allowed me to journey from job to job.
Thanks for the support.


:beer:

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:49 AM
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8. I do not doubt any of the abu ghraib accusations
they are running the prisons over there just like the ones here in ameriKa. they have hired prison guards from the states to run the ones over seas.
i cannot imagine the fears you must be living with. i am so sorry.
peace and love
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:02 AM
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20. That's exactly what troubles me.
If the christian soldiers of GWB are allowed to
do this, we have lost all semblence of civilization(sp?).
:yourock:
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:51 AM
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10. All you have to do is use the word "prison" ...
... and there are fifty or more DUers who immediately post and crack "wise" about prison rape.

Then there's the persistent lynch mob mentality, especially over "pedophiles", most of whom have not even been charged, let alone convicted. The number of pedo frenzy articles in the newspaper is about ten times the number of actual pedophiles; on DU, it's more like 30-to-1. The Michael Jackson case brought them all out of the woodwork, too.

Sorry about the problems you faced, micrometer_50. There's a whole lot of angry people around here who don't care who they hurt, as long as they get to have their daily temper tantrum or tell a few smutty jokes about prison rape.

I don't know what your son did to be imprisoned, but if indeed he took a bad course in life, I hope he straightens himself out; and in any event, I hope he bears prison well. And if he's innocent, even more so -- punished innocence seems to be more common in this world than unpunished guilt.

Be well. I'll see you 'round, in another name.

--p!
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:00 AM
Response to Reply #10
18. Excellent post.
I've noticed the same thing.
You nailed it, thanks.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:06 AM
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22. Thank you.
:yourock:
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:16 AM
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25. You rock too, Micrometer 50.
My ex-BIL got himself into a world of trouble but it never changed how I felt about him.
He was a loving gentle kid who made some bad choices.
We stuck by him and he is now a happily married, well adjusted and much wiser contributor to society.
He makes his dad (an ex-police chief) proud.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:23 AM
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27. Doesn't llife throw us some curves and knuckleballs.
Sticking by him is all I have left to offer.

:pals:
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:05 AM
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21. Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Yes, he made some bad choices.
Yes, he should be punished for what he did.
The acceptance of BUBBA as roommate is betond the pale.

:cry:
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:57 AM
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15. What crime did your son commit?
(n/t)
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:07 AM
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23. He was convicted of armed buglary.
:banghead:

again.
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T Town Jake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:23 AM
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26. I only ask because...
...I wanted to establish the *context* of what kind of crime we are talking about here. It's helpful to posters in the thread.

I'm sorry you've witnessed that kind of reaction here, but I assure you it's probably a very tiny minority of posters who feel that way.

The vast majority of us don't feel that way at all. Peace.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:37 AM
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33. You are right, it's a minority.
I hope our community continues to be a supportive
environment.

Peace out.


:hippie:

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:02 AM
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19. I am glad you are going to come back
and also sorry you were hurt by some thoughtless post. Even though I don't know of the discussion, we should all very careful when discussing issues which concerns another DUer's family.

Hurry back.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:08 AM
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24. Thanks to you, as well.
:pals:
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:23 AM
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28. There are a few issues which hit too close to home for me also
I've learned to quickly hit the hide button on any suspect thread title and move on to another discussion. Do not open, just walk away.

Saves alot of grief.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:28 AM
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30. Mostly, that works.
Thanks for the boost.

:hi:
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:26 AM
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29. My brother is a prison guard.
They like to be called "correctional officers." Unfortunately, from hearing him talk, I get the feeling he is just continuing what he did when we were kids. He was cruel to animals, beating our pets and killing wild animals, sometimes for no reason at all. Now he can be cruel to men in cages and get paid for it.

My brother thinks he's such hot shit, but I doubt he'd have enough guts to be a real police officer on the beat. The "bad guys" can shoot back.

It's just a feeling I get when I'm around him. He gives me the creeps. I don't like feeling this way, but I think my hunches are spot-on.

Sorry about your kid. Some people belong in prison. Some people belong in rehab.
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micrometer_50 Donating Member (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:32 AM
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31. Yes, he has earned some prison time.
He does not deserve barbaric punishment.

I have a cousin that's a corrections officer in another state.
There are some good'uns and some bad'uns.

Thanks for the empathy for my son.
:D
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madeline_con Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:36 AM
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32. "He was cruel to animals,...
... beating our pets and killing wild animals, sometimes for no reason at all."

He sounds like a classic case.

Read "High Risk: Children Without a Conscience" by Ken Magid for info on the making of serial killers and other assorted cruel types. No offense. It just might help you understand the condition some.
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