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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:36 AM
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CAFTA, CAFTA, CAFTA ....Don't ignore it
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 11:40 AM by Armstead
The media is ignoring it. But we shouldn't.

The issue of CAFTA is likely to come to a head today, with the vote in the House. It has been a close call, because enough Republicans have been critical or opposed to bolster a majority of House Democrats in opposition. Bush and the Corporate Masters have been pushing hard for this.

So this could be a case where every vote counts. If your Rep has any chance of voting against it, there is the need to hear from constituients.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/07/27/bush.cafta.ap/

House vote on CAFTA likely to be close
Bush lobbies for support with rare Capitol Hill visit

Wednesday, July 27, 2005; Posted: 11:20 a.m. EDT (15:20 GMT)

(AP) -- In a rare piece of lobbying on Capitol Hill, President Bush appealed personally to fellow Republicans Wednesday to close ranks behind a free trade agreement with Central America that faces a very close floor vote.

The House was beginning debate on the Central American Free Trade Agreement later in the day, with a vote coming as early as Wednesday night.

With Democrats strongly against it, passage depends on keeping Republican defections to a minimum.

The president reminded Republicans that while some might oppose CAFTA for parochial interests "we are here not only to represent our districts but to represent the nation," House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, said after the meeting that lasted more than an hour.

DeLay predicted a tough vote, but "we will pass CAFTA tonight."

DeLay said the president may have won over one unidentified Republican when he noted that Central American countries have contributed troops in the war against terrorism.

Bush, who has invested considerable time and effort to winning approval of CAFTA, was accompanied by Vice President Dick Cheney and U.S. Trade Representative Rob Portman at the closed meeting of House Republicans. It isn't unusual for presidents to press their agendas with members of their own party or the opposition party, but they usually do it at the White House......






Here's some info (admittedly biased against it)

http://www.stopcafta.org/


http://www.oaklandinstitute.org/?q=node/view/182
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Also
http://www.citizen.org/trade/cafta/



http://www.citizen.org/trade/cafta/opposition/index.cfm?ID=12488&relatedpages=1&catID=125&secID=2231

State Legislators From 21 States Launch Anti-CAFTA Effort

Legislators Send Letter to Congress Highlighting How CAFTA’s Foreign Investor Protections Would UndermineStateAuthority

WASHINGTON, D.C. – State legislators from Tennessee and California today sent a letter to Congress signed by legislators from 21 states urging opposition to the Central America Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA). On a telephone press conference, the legislators explained their objections to CAFTA’s foreign investor protection provisions. CAFTA, under its Chapter 10 provisions, would expand on similar provisions in the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) that provide foreign investors operating within the United States property rights that extend beyond U.S. Constitutional dictates and permit foreign investors to sue the U.S. government in international tribunals to obtain compensation for policies that undermine these new rights.

Tennessee state Rep. Mike Kernell of Memphis and California state Sen. Liz Figueroa talked about the dire threat CAFTA would pose to the U.S. system of federalism and said they are currently lobbying their congressional delegation to oppose the deal. CAFTA’s Article 104 requires that the federal government force states to adopt the 1,000 pages of CAFTA international law, to which both the U.S. government and states would be bound.

“It is incredible that CAFTA, as proposed by the Bush administration, would enable foreign corporations to sue the U.S. for cash compensation over federal, state and local policies designed to safeguard public health and safety in instances when Americans or U.S. businesses would have no such right,” said Kernell, senior member of the Tennessee House Environment and Conservation committee. “As a state legislator, I find this to be an unacceptable threat to our sovereignty and democracy.”

“NAFTA’s investor rules are already having a chilling effect on our ability to address the concerns of our constituents. In addition to the direct challenges brought by private Canadian corporations against two California laws protecting public health and the environment, last year Gov. Schwarzenegger vetoed bipartisan legislation for fear of a NAFTA trade dispute,” said Sen. Figueroa, referring to a bill that aimed to recycle used tires for paving California roadways. “I fully support trade. However, trade should not be valued above our hard-won and long cherished, self-governing freedoms. Extending the provisions of the NAFTA model through CAFTA has drastic implications for California, its residents and its representative government. I urge Congress to reject this flawed agreement.”

NAFTA’s investment chapter, or Chapter 11 as it is known, has been widely criticized for undermining basic public interest protections provided by state and local governments and these governments’ ability to conduct day-to-day functions. NAFTA has done this by extending a set of rights to foreign investors operating in the U.S. to attack domestic policies and demand compensation.

In February, Public Citizen released an analysis of the 42 known NAFTA Chapter 11 cases and found that in 11 cases decided, approximately $35 million in public funds had been paid; in pending cases, claims reach into the billions. U.S. defense of just one pending case has cost more than $3 million. Corporate investors also have used NAFTA’s investor vs. government enforcement system to challenge domestic court rulings, local and state environmental policies, municipal contracts, tax policy, federal controlled substances regulations, federal and state anti-gambling policies, a federal government’s alleged failure to provide water rights, and the provision of public postal services

“An enormous difference between the current debate over CAFTA and the NAFTA debate from 12 years ago is the active objections state lawmakers and officials now have to the NAFTA-style rights given to corporations, which have proven to disable state initiatives that promote public health and environmental policies,” said Chris Slevin, deputy director of Public Citizen’s Global Trade Watch.



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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:02 PM
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1. Kick for what should be national CAFTA Day
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:50 AM
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70. Don't call it CAFTA
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 04:51 AM by radfringe
call it what it really is:

SHAFT-a


because all of us have been shafted....

it's a "win" for bush* and his buddies, but a lose for jobs
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:07 PM
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2. And just like with NAFTA, supporters are obscuring...
...what the real issue is here. The problem as I see it is not over jobs being lost, but the fact that companies can sue countries over things like environmental and worker protections, that are intended to protect those workers whose jobs we're so worried about. I can't believe that the US or any other country would be so willing to just hand over their sovereignty to some multinational.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:12 PM
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3. It's everything
Hell even consistent consrvatives are supposed to be in favor of national sovergnty, and some are also opposed to this giant con job.

But many other morons who complain about the UN being too powerful are happy to get into lockstep to support these "trade" agreements that are really nothing more then imposing a specific corporate political agenda on the whole world.

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:17 PM
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4. Current vote count--check to see where your Rep stands
REPUBLICANS

Yes
Bachus, Barrett, Barton, Bass, Beauprez, Biggert, Blunt, Boehner, Bonilla, Bono,
Bradley, Brady, Burton, Calvert, Cannon, Cantor, Carter, Castle, Chocola, Cole,
Conaway, Cox, G. Davis, T. Davis, DeLay, L. Diaz-Balart, Doolittle, Drake, Dreier,
English, Ferguson, Flake, Fortenberry, Frelinghuysen, Goodlatte, Harris, Hart,
Hastert, Hastings, Hayworth, Hensarling, Herger, Hulshof, Hyde, Inglis, N. Johnson,
S. Johnson, T. Johnson, Keller, Kennedy, P. King, S. King, Kirk, Kline, Knollenberg,
Kolbe, LaHood, Latham, R. Lewis, Linder, Lungren, Marchant, McCaul, McCrery,
McKeon, Moran, Myrick, Neugebauer, Northup, Nussle, Oxley, Pence, Pitts, Porter,
Pryce, Radanovich, Ramstad, Reichert, M. Rogers (Ala.), M. Rogers (Mich.),
Ros-Lehtinen, Ryan, Ryun, Sessions, Shaw, Shays, Shimkus, L. Smith, Souder,
Sullivan, Thomas, Tiahrt, Weller, Westmoreland, Wicker and H. Wilson. (96)

Leaning Yes
Akin, Boozman, Culberson, Cunningham, Dent, Gilchrest, Gohmert, Granger,
Istook, Kingston, Leach, J. Lewis, Lucas, Pearce, Poe, Price, Putnam, Schwarz,
Shadegg, Shuster and Terry. (21)

No
Boustany, Cubin, Foxx, Goode, Hayes, Hunter, Jones, LaTourette, McHenry,
Norwood, Otter, Paul, Rehberg, Simpson, Tancredo, Taylor and J. Wilson. (17)

Leaning No
Aderholt, Bonner, Brown-Waite, Coble, Foley, Gutknecht, McCotter and
Simmons. (8)

Undecided
Bartlett, Bilirakis, Blackburn, Boehlert, Brown, Camp, Crenshaw, M. Diaz-Balart,
Duncan, Ehlers, Emerson, Everett, Feeney, Fitzpatrick, Forbes, Franks, Gerlach,
Gibbons, Gillmor, Gingrey, Green, Gutknecht, Hefley, Hobson, Hoekstra, Kuhl,
Mack, McHugh, McMorris. G. Miller, J. Miller, Murphy, Musgrave, Osborne, Petri, Pickering, Rohrabacher, Sensenbrenner, Sodrel, Upton, Walden, Walsh, C. Weldon, Wamp, Whitfield and D. Young. (45)

Declined to Answer
Buyer, Garrett, Issa, Nunes, Platts, Regula, Tiberi, Turner and Wolf. (9)

No Response by Presstime
Alexander, Baker, Bishop, Bergess, Capito, Chabot, J. Davis, Deal, Fosella,
Gallegly, Graves, Hall, Hostettler, Jenkins, Jindal, Kelly, LoBiondo, Manzullo, Mica,
C. Miller, Ney, Peterson, Pombo, Renzi, Reynolds, H. Rogers, Royce, Saxton,
Sherwood, C. Smith, Stearns, Sweeney, Thornberry, D. Weldon and C.W. Young. (35)

DEMOCRATS

Yes
Bean, Cuellar, Dicks, Jefferson, Moran and Tanner. (6)

Leaning Yes
None. (0)

No
Abercrombie, Allen, Baird, Baldwin, Barrow, Becerra, Berry, Blumenauer,
Boswell, Boucher, Brady, C. Brown, S. Brown, Capps, Capuano, Cardin,
Cardoza, Carnahan, Case, Cleaver, Costello, Crowley, Cummings, A. Davis,
DeFazio, Delahunt, DeLauro, Dingell, Doggett, Doyle, Engle, Etheridge, Evans,
Farr, Fattah, A. Green, G. Green, Grijalva, Gutierrez, Harman, Hastings, Herseth,
Higgins, Hinchey, Holden, Holt, Honda, Hooley, Hoyer, Inslee, Jackson, Johnson,
Jones, Kaptur, P. Kennedy, Kildee, Kind, Kucinich, Lantos, Larsen, Lee, Levin,
Lewis, Lynch, Maloney, Markey, Marshall, Matsui, McCollum, McDermott,
McGovern, McIntyre, McKinney, McNulty, Meehan, Meek, Melancon, Menendez,
Michaud, G. Miller, Mollohan, G. Moore, Murtha, Nadler, Napolitano, Neal,
Oberstar, Obey, Olver, Pallone, Pascrell, Pastor, Pelosi, Peterson, Pomeroy,
D. Price, Rahall, Rangel, Ross, Roybal-Allard, Ryan, Sabo, Salazar, Linda Sanchez,
Schakowsky, Schiff, Schwartz, B. Scott, Serrano, Slaughter, Smith, Solis, Spratt,
Stark, Strickland, Stupak, Tauscher, Taylor, B. Thompson, Tierney, M. Udall,
T. Udall, Van Hollen, Visclosky, Wasserman Schultz, Waxman, Weiner, Wexler,
Woolsey, Wu and Wynn. (131)

Leaning No
Ackerman, Baca, Berman, Boren, Butterfield, Carson, Clyburn, Emanuel, Langevin, McCarthy, B. Miller, Payne, Rothman, Loretta Sanchez, Watson and Watt. (16)

Undecided
Berkley, S. Bishop, T. Bishop, Clay, Cooper, Costa, D. Davis, J. Davis, L. Davis,
S. Davis, Edwards, Ford, Gonzalez, Hinojosa, Israel, Kilpatrick, Jackson Lee,
Meeks, D. Moore, Ortiz, Snyder and Towns. (22)

Declined to Answer
Chandler, DeGette, Eshoo, Frank, Kanjorski, Lofgren, Lowey, Matheson, Reyes,
D. Scott, Sherman, Skelton, and M. Thompson. (13)

No Response by Presstime
Andrews, Boyd, Conyers, Cramer, Filner, Gordon, Larson, Lipinski, Millender-McDonald, Owens, Ruppersberger, Rush, Velazquez, and Waters. (14)

TOTALS
Yes/Leaning Yes: 123
No/Leaning No: 173
Undecided: 67
Declined to Answer/No Response 71
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:21 PM
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5. Moran? WTF?
I'm also surprised that Dana Roherbacher (R) is only "leaning" No. I saw him ripping CAFTA mercilessly on CSPAN a while back.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:29 PM
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6. Delay says noone goes home until he has the votes
Roherbacher is probably leaning because he knows the heavy pressure is going to be applied to him. I expect he is planning to make Delay pay big if Roherbacher has to vote yes.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:44 PM
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36. My guess is that the MFs won't gavel the vote closed
until DeBugMan and company have twisted enough arms (and offered enough enticements) to ensure the result. Gonna be a long night, I'm afeered.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:34 PM
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8. Call those 'undecideds' & 'leaners'!
1-877-SOB-U-SOB

1-866-340-9281

1-800-718-1008
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:12 PM
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46. Called, thanks for posting. n/t
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Robert Oak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:26 PM
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20. MELISSA BEAN
On Dailykos they are reporting she is getting so much pressure she is now considering voting no.

Anybody in here district (or not) please call her! Zeroing in on waiving votes because it's so close is the way to go.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:01 PM
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24. Walden is a yes
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/or02_walden/pr_050726_cafta.html

Maybe we should check web sites for more recent press releases??
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:03 PM
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25. of course linder's a yes
I really miss living in Cynthia's district at times...
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:32 PM
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7. Toll-free numbers... please call!
Please, everyone, call your Representative now! Capitol toll-free numbers:


1-877-SOB-U-SOB

1-866-340-9281

1-800-718-1008


And please tell your representative to stop CAFTA @ http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/NOCAFTA
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:43 PM
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9. CAFTA DISASTA
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 12:49 PM by Armstead
http://www.bernie.house.gov/document_display_text.asp?FileToConvert=/documents/articles/20050725142301.asp

7/1/2005, Democracy Now
Rep. Bernie Sanders: 'CAFTA is a Disaster for the People of Central America and the USA'


The Senate voted Thursday to approve the Central American Free Trade Agreement by a 54 to 45 vote. 10 Democrats voted for the trade pact while 11 Republicans voted against it.
The trade agreement, known as CAFTA, would eliminate most trade restrictions between the United States and six Latin American countries: Honduras, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, Guatemala, El Salvador and the Dominican Republic.

Thursday's Senate vote set the stage for a showdown in the House where the trade pact faces overwhelming opposition from Democrats and enough Republicans to make the outcome uncertain.

The House Ways and Means Committee voted to endorse CAFTA yesterday in a 25 to 16 vote, and the full House is expected to take it up after Congress returns from its Independence Day break.

Critics of the trade agreement say it provides too little protection to US sugar producers and too little enforcement of labor standards in Central American countries.

Earlier this week, news emerged that as the White House was lobbying Congress to win support for CAFTA, the Labor Department tried for more than a year to block the release of reports that harshly criticized labor standards in Central America.

The reports were commissioned by the Labor Department to an outside contractor - the International Labor Rights Fund. The studies concluded that several of the countries involved in CAFTA have poor working conditions and have failed to protect workers" rights. The studies" conclusions contrast the Bush administration's arguments that Central American countries have made enough progress on such issues to warrant a free-trade deal with the United States.

After the Labor Rights Fund submitted their findings, the Labor Department instructed them to remove the reports from their Web site, ordered them to retrieve paper copies before they became public, banned release of new information from the reports, and even told them they couldn't discuss the studies with outsiders.

We called the Labor Department and asked them to join us on the program today, but they declined. In a statement yesterday, Dirk Fillpot, a spokesperson for the department's Bureau of International Labor Affairs, said the study was "rife with unsubstantiated and unverifiable claims, questionable statistical data, and biased statements of findings and conclusions."

Bama Athreya, Deputy Director of the International Labor Rights Fund in Washington DC.......

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:00 PM
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10. Wonder what kind of articles we'll be reading after the House vote?
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 01:00 PM by Sapphire Blue
Wonder how many CAFTA threads & posts we'll be seeing then?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:07 PM
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12. If past experience is any guide -- Not much
I wish the TRade Issue involved Sex or some Republican operative. Then it would get the attention it deserves.

A much bigger and more important scandal than most -- but one that slips under the radar too often.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:10 PM
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14. Horseley & CAFTA on the farm?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:35 PM
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21. I suspect, too,
that a number of folks here probably associate NAFTA with Clinton (with good reason) and assume that these threads are the work of the nutty leftwing outriders.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:47 PM
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22. Proud pro-labor & pro-human rights 'nut' here, speaking out!
And as long as I breathe I will speak out... the 'number of folks' can call me whatever they like.

"We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people." - Martin Luther King, Jr.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:48 PM
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23. :)
Same here. Armstead's right, though - corporate globalization is a traditional nonstarter on DU.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:24 PM
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68. And here come all the 'oh, shit! CAFTA passed!' threads.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:09 PM
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13. Ron Paul also has a CAFTA drive going
It is where I got the current vote standings.

Many good people are pitching in to stop this disaster.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:12 PM
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15. That was valuable info... thanks for posting it!
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:18 PM
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19. Thanks for the heads-up.
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 01:19 PM by Raksha
I just called my rep to thank her for her "No" vote. Thank the Goddess I have a reliably progressive congresswoman (Grace Napolitano). I'd be banging my head against the wall right now if I didn't!

P.S. This was actually supposed to be a reply to the OP.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:05 PM
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11. CAFTA Threatens Our Forests, Water, Air & the Lives of Millions of People
An excerpt from a Global Exchange (http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/cafta) email...

CAFTA Threatens Our Forests, Water, Air and the Lives of Millions of People
by Father Jose Andrés Tamayo Cortez

The U.S. Congress is preparing to vote on the ratification of the Dominican Republic - Central American Free Trade Agreement (CAFTA). In their hands lies the destiny of the forests, the water, the air and the lives of millions of people from Alaska to Costa Rica. In Honduras, my native country, they have already ratified the agreement against the will of the people. Through marches we demanded that they listen to the opposition, but the government, instead of listening, responded with fierce repression. This agreement was approved in the same way it was written; behind closed doors, contradicting the democracy that they tell us exists in our country.

As well as a Priest, I am a representative of the “Movimiento Ambientalista de Olancho” (Olancho Environmental Movement), a coalition of various environmental groups in Honduras whose mission it is to conserve our natural resources. In spite of all our effort, no one took in to consideration our opinion that CAFTA would have disastrous consequences for our natural environment because of the lack of regulations on industry. It is clear that this Agreement was planned and created by the most dominant corporate interests. In fact, these transnational and national corporations have already spent years appropriating our resources and buying off successive governments. DR-CAFTA simply legalizes this plunder.

They tell us that CAFTA will help the economic and social development of Honduras, but by its inherently anti-democratic and exclusionary nature, it is very clear that we don't need this type of development. We have seen the devastating effects the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) has had on Mexico. NAFTA has restricted the Mexican government's ability to set responsible agricultural, labor and environmental regulations, leading to 1.5 million campesinos losing their land, falling wages, increasing erosion, air and water pollution. Without regulations built in to this agreement we run the risk of not being able to stop the devastating effects of the foreign corporations that are cutting down our forests, extracting our minerals, stealing our natural resources and exploiting our people in their insatiable thirst for profit.

We know the type of development that CAFTA offers; it is development that generates wealth for the largest corporations because the agreement was made by and for these very corporations. They look only for cheap labor and a flexible government that permits them to supercede labor rights and national laws in a “race to the bottom.” It might be true that CAFTA will generate employment, however these jobs, as well as being unstable, submit our people to inhuman conditions, with unjust salaries so that their products can be sold for high profits in other countries. The fruits of our sweat, labor and sacrifice will not remain in Honduras, nor will they be shared with the citizens of Honduras, but rather they will be taken by the large foreign corporations that do not respect the dignity, the rights nor the voice of our people.

In Honduras we are already seeing how this “development” is destroying the environment. In the state of Olancho, because of illegal and unregulated deforestation, erosion is spreading, the water levels are dangerously low and natural springs have completely dried up.

As was the case with NAFTA in Mexico, the chaos caused by CAFTA will increase levels of migration from Central America and the Dominican Republic towards the United States. Taking in to account the increase of the repression on the US/Mexican border and the increase of racist laws affecting immigrants, the passing of this agreement is a crime against the people of Central America & the Dominican Republic.

Without concrete laws that protect the environment, CAFTA will be terribly destructive for Honduras and Central America. With CAFTA, profits for the largest corporations are given a higher value than human, animal or plant life. But life and natural resources are human rights; therefore, to destroy God’s creation is a crime against humanity, the last recourse that we have is to defend life with our own life. Therefore we must continue to struggle so that the people of North America understand that by passing CAFTA they are threatening the lives of thousands of brothers and sisters, and their ability to live with dignity and respect, as God wants for all of “America.”

I ask the people of the United States to write, call, yell and demonstrate in order to demand that your Congressional Representatives vote against CAFTA. In solidarity and in the name of God…


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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:13 PM
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16. C-SPAN - Hastert talking about CAFTA right now
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 01:13 PM by Sapphire Blue
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:14 PM
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17. kick, kick, kick!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:17 PM
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18. One more nomination for greatest... please before it's too late
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:03 PM
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26. Pelosi Statement
“But if the President wins this vote, he will have expended enormous resources to do so. He has all the power of the presidency, and all we have on the House Democratic side is the fact that we are right. So if the President wins on this, and I do not know that it is certain that he will, it will be a Pyrrhic victory for him, because we will take our message to the American people that we are the ones looking out for them."

MORE:
http://www.lightupthedarkness.org/blog/?view=plink&id=1292
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:15 PM
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27. Anybody find a list of 'fence sitters'? n/t
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:16 PM
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28. check out post #4 in this thread. n/t
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:20 PM
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30. Thanks, don't know how I missed it. n/t
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:17 PM
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29. John Lewis is leaning yes?
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 03:18 PM by ulysses
:wtf:

edit: ok, there's a Lewis under the nos, but who is "J. Lewis" if not him?
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:23 PM
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31. ok, maybe not.
http://www.globalexchange.org/campaigns/cafta/3183.html

Thought my head might explode there for a sec.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:27 PM
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32. Shadegg's definitely aware of my view, for all the good it'll do. n/t
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:30 PM
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33. Too late...
I've been posting about CAFTA for well over a year, and never got more than a handful of replies.

Today Republicans are really optimistic and it seems it will be approved.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:04 PM
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37. Arcos, it's the 11th hour now.
You were right to raise the alarm then.

Now, however, is the time for action.

It's not too late.


Do it!
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:18 PM
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40. I'm not even American, I'm Costa Rican...
I am frustrated because the only chance to stop it, was to stop it in the US. Congress is not discussing it here yet, but once it is approved in the US, Costa Rica will follow. A defeat in the US also means that the agreement is absolutely dead, and that's what all citizens in the countries involved need.

I still have a little faith, but Repugs seem to be very optimistic.

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:25 PM
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42. They were confident about the China bill earlier today - we blocked that!
I hope your little faith will be rewarded!

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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:34 PM
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43. Thanks, and I hope you're right...
It would be a major win for progressives in the whole area. :)
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 07:32 AM
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71. Sorry.
Did all I could.

My Republican rep voted "no".
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:13 PM
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34. NAFTA>CAFTA>FTAA
Trading Freedom: the secret life of the FTAA
Video by indymedia ftaa video workgroup
Produced October 2002, 56 minutes

Offers an explanation of what the FTAA is, what it will mean, and how people across the Americas are resisting it.

DOWNLOAD 600MB
http://frazer.rice.edu/~tish/video.mov
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:27 PM
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35. CAFTA,CAFTA
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:05 PM
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38. Can Americans Fuck Themselves Again?
If they pass CAFTA, they will!

Call your Rep NOW!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:11 PM
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39. 770,000 calls in the next couple of hours
70,000 DUers + 10 friends each... I can dream.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:21 PM
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41. I've called 18 people in the last hour.
Someone even said they already have the number and were going to call!

It can happen. We can win this one!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:45 PM
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44. 1,470,000 calls in the next couple of hours
70,000 DUers + 20 friends each... yes, I can dream.


One of my favorite prayers:

May God bless you...

May God bless you with discomfort at easy answers, half truths, superficial relationships, so that you will live deep within your heart.

May God bless you with anger at injustice, oppression and exploitation of people so that you will work for justice, equality and peace.

May God bless you with tears to shed for those who suffer from pain, rejection, starvation and war, so that you will reach out your hand to comfort them and change their pain into joy.

And may God bless you with the foolishness to think that you can make a difference in the world, so that you will do the things which others tell you cannot be done.

- Author Unknown

http://www.inspirationpeak.com/prayers.html
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:09 PM
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45. kick, tell your friends and family
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:26 PM
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47. .
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:40 PM
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48. kick nt
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:51 PM
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49. .
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 06:55 PM by Toucano
Oops! Wrong screen. My bad.
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:04 PM
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50. SIGN THIS PETITION that Rep Pollone will take to the vote tonight
We, the undersigned, call on Congress to vote against CAFTA, and ask the President to go back to the drawing board and renegotiate an agreement that Congress and the American people will be proud to stand behind.

http://www.pallonefornewjersey.com/petition/CAFTA (scroll down the page & fill in your info & optional comment)

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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:10 PM
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51. Was this vote just taken? HR 385?
224-200, 1 Dem voting for it?
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:11 PM
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52. I hope this sinks Republicans in next year's races. nt
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:25 PM
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55. No. It was confusing.
C-SPAN was talking about CAFTA when they were showing the vote from the rules for the Medical Liability act.

CAFTA debate is just starting now. Each side will have an hour.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:43 PM
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58. thank you. nt
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:34 PM
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63. 2 on this
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:23 PM
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53. Kick! n/t
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:25 PM
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54. On C-SPAN now
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:28 PM
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56. Rangel ROCKS!
:toast: . . :headbang: . . :kick:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:29 PM
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57. What the fuck did Thomas mean about TV time? n/t
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:55 PM
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59. ...
:kick:
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:05 PM
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60. CAFTA is NAFTA's UGLY cousin!
Good one!

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sadiesworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:13 PM
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61. kick
:kick:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:32 PM
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62. kick
:kick:
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:36 PM
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64. NAFTA, CAFTA, SHAFTA!!!
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:09 PM
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65. ...
:kick:
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:21 PM
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66. kick nt
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 09:28 PM
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67. Kucinich was OUTSTANDING!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:38 AM
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69. Everybody who thinks that--
--needs to send him money! www.kucinich.us
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