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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:54 AM
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I think it's time to consider racial profiling
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 11:56 AM by Modem Butterfly
We in the US have lived under the shadow of terrorism long enough. I am all in favor of civil rights and civil liberties, but it's time we dropped the "politically correct" pretense that no one group in America is any more dangerous than any other. We all know it's bullshit, we just pretend that it's okay. There is one group that is responsible for 90% of the terrorism that our nation has encountered, and that is white men.

From the early days of Reconstruction, when white men openly formed terrorist cells designed to frighten and intimidate African Americans, and later Catholics, Jews, union organizers and voter rights activists, to modern terrorists like Paul Hill, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczynski and Eric Rudolph, white men have been responsible for the majority of terrorism here in the US. Statistically speaking, if an act of terrorism has happened in your home town, a white man was responsible for it.

I think to begin with, we should be suspicious of any white man carrying a package or dressed warmly, particularly when I think it isn't cold enough. And I think we should be especially suspicious of any white man who adheres to the Xian religion. Not all white, male Xians are terrorists, but enough of them have been that it's fair to say that white, male Xians should certainly be watched. We should also keep an eye on places white males congregate, such as sports bars, Home Depots, and RNC meetings. We should also take steps to curtail the immigration of white male Xians, and to control our borders to prevent their illegal immigration. The way in which our military and the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services has ignored our border with Canada, home to many white males, is simply shameful. Most white men who enter from Canada do so only in search of employment (taking jobs that otherwise would go to Americans), but it would be easy enough for a white male terrorist to blend in and come across the border, bent on performing acts of terrorism in a warmer climate without socialized medicine.

Okay, I know this will be controversial. Certain Blame America First, bleeding heart types will tell you that the Bill of Rights forbids targeting potential terrorists, um, I mean white males, simply because of their race and gender. And to that, I saw BWA! If we hope to preserve our Bill of Rights, we need to do away with the parts that are inconvenient and don't apply to me anyway, as a non-potential terrorist. I mean white male.

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:56 AM
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1. I would agree except that I would worry for all the men in my family
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:59 AM
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4. Hey, if they haven't done anything, they've got nothing to fear
I would tell them to avoid wearing heavy coats to Lowes though.

Just saying.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:57 AM
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2. Could you say "white men" a little sooner?
Geez, Butterfly, I thought I was gonna have a heart attack, waiting to see who you were talking about.

Yes, stupid white men are the scourge of the world. And the biggest terrorist of all is BushCo!!!
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 11:58 AM
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3. It's just a rough draft of a modest proposal, it's not perfect yet
But I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

Unless you're a white male, then I'll want to see what's in your backpack FIRST.
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getmeouttahere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:17 PM
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9. I am, but I don't use a backpack...
I'm an open book!
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:00 PM
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5. I think that is the point :) EOM
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:04 PM
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6. I like the way she handled it.
The fact that she waited as long as she did allowed for those rare, great moments where the freepers go "yeah, yeah, go after the brown people!", only to find themselves played for the fools they are.

I say well done. :)
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:10 PM
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7. Thank-you!
Now step to the right, where your white male GPS tracker will be installed.
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:13 PM
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8. I'm only half white.
Do I still need the tracker? :(
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:37 PM
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13. No, but we'll be sure to put a note in your permanent record.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:39 PM
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14. Me, too. I guess they'll need a new category for us, because
we might develop those "tendencies," you know, from the white half. And I can't blame them for wanting to be careful, can you?

Redstone
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:40 PM
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15. No, I can't
You can never be sure when the white side will decide to just take over. I can see why people would want to track us.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:17 PM
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10. A certain type of white male
Those with Confederate flags flying around; who has right-wing bumper stickers on their vehicle(s); those who go around toting AK-47's where the only threats that exist are the ones in their heads.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:18 PM
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11. Nope. You can't tell 'em apart...
they all look the same don'tcha know.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:29 PM
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12. Exactly
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:42 PM
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16. Well, if you're going to use McVeigh as an example, then you have
to REALLY watch for white men who rent trucks. And white men who rent cars as well, come to think of it.

Yeah, they may SAY they're on a business trip when they step up to that Avis counter, but you can't be too careful...

Redstone
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:49 PM
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17. Certainly a pattern of illicit vehicle rental should be a factor
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:12 PM
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34. OMG!
I think my boyfriend may be dangerous - He rents cars all the time on his 'business trips'. Maybe I should turn him in. Although he is a little dark-skinned, so it should be okay!

:P
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SonofMass Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:49 PM
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18. If this comes to pass it could be trouble for Howard Dean's staff!
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 12:58 PM
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19. White males have infiltrated Howard Dean's office?
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SonofMass Donating Member (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:10 PM
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20. They didn't have to. It's already all white.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:11 PM
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21. MY GOD! They're EVERYWHERE!
AAAAAAHHHH! FREAKY FEAR MELT DOWN IMMINENT!
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:00 PM
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36. was this when he was governor of Vermont...
home to very few minorities...

or NOW?

And, by the way, do you have a (customarily-provided) link?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:20 PM
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:26 PM
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23. No one is bashing white males, just white male terrorists
Like Klansmen, the Aryan Brotherhood, the Army of God, Byron de la Beckwith, Thomas Blanton Jr., Bobby Frank Cherry...
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:27 PM
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24. You forgot the smokers, they're OK too. n/t
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:47 PM
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30. How about making a deal?
This is NOT the point of Modem Butterfly's post, which you may have missed--check out the other posts including hers, for more clarity. I'm just responding to your tangent.

Why don't you offer to trade all of the statistically demonstrable advantages now disproportionately enjoyed by white men to any non-white male group, in exchange for not having to experience the pain of hearing an occasional racist/sexist/anti-gay/anti religious minority, etc., comment that WAS TURNED AROUND in order to help SOME in the white male group who don't "get it"?

I'm sure you will have members of those groups ready and willing to trade you. Those members hear far more "bashing" than white males ever get AND continue to not to get their fair share of the advantages.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:03 PM
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35. Oh, Gawd. Didn't undertand the original post,
did you?

Do you udertand the definition of the word "satire?"

Spare me the whining, please.

Redstone
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:28 PM
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25. It gets my vote. n/t
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:28 PM
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26. Bummer!
I wasn't gonna hurt nobody! Honest! Why pick on me?

Good post, MB.
The Professor
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:31 PM
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27. Well, quite frankly, YOU FIT THE PROFILE!
:evilgrin:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:33 PM
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28. Oh. So Now You're Spying On Me Too!
You're really serious about this profiling thing, ain't ya?

Now you've got cameras in my office. Else, how'd you know i was a white guy? Hmmm? Come on, answer the question you! Where's that camera?
The Professor
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:47 PM
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29. Actually, I could tell by the way you type.
You type like a white male.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:54 PM
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32. Now I Have To Find A Disguise
All this extra bother!
The Professor
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 01:51 PM
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31. Post of the Year.
Racial profiling is always okay with those who are not profiled.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 02:05 PM
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33. Don't laugh I already do stear clear of angry white men in bulky clothes
And I am white...I worked for a large corp in the 80's and one of my ardently right winged co-workers brought in a shotgun one day intent on offing the boss.

The man didn't carry through with his plan but he did indeed bring the gun into the building under a large overcoat.

Would you believe that another co-worker and I reported it and nothing was done about it?

Our main supervisor(the one the other guy wanted to off) dismissed it as the product of the over active imaginations of a couple of "dumb women"

As I said in another thread *terrorism* in it's many forms is not a new thing!
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:37 PM
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39. That's probably wise
Terrorism in the US dates back at least as far as the Klan.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:31 PM
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43. Not to mention all those fast food shooters
Postal people etc...Most (practically ALL) serial killers are white men.

Does the public assume every white man is a serial killer?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:09 PM
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37. just think...
we should have been looking for all brown skin men..when these guys were arrested for terrorism!!

McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Terry Nichols, Ted Kwcyzinki ( The Unabomber)

ahhhh shucks..couldn't be these white guys were committing terrorism could it??

and omg..they were american..

no way... can't be..can it??

let em loose now!!..they are too white!!
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:19 PM
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38. You know, I'm always amazed...
When I hear someone call for profiling Muslims, on the basic basis that "they are the ones trying to kill us."

My first question to them always is: Why weren't you calling for profiling people that looked like Tim McVeigh, in the days and weeks after the Oklahoma City bombing.

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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:40 PM
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40. The headline got me... I thought "Oh no! Not Modem Butterfly!"
Then I read the text.

Sweet!

Well done.

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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:44 PM
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41. Why stop with terrorism?
Most serial killers are white men. White men lead in a number of other crime statistics. Since racial profiling as been around long before Americans feared terrorism we should expand it to all aspects of crime and improper behavior white men lead in.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:07 PM
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42. bravo.
:thumbsup:
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