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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:41 PM
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One good thing about Bernard Goldberg's book,
"One Hundred People Who Are Screwing Up America"...now a good progressive writer can come back and write a book titled, "One Hundred People Who Have Already Screwed Up America". And then give 'em hell. They won't be able to pout and whine about "those liberals writing a nasty book" because they already set a precedent.

Now all we need is someone to write it. Any volunteers?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:42 PM
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1. talk about some quick bucks!
I'm sure someone is already on the job
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:51 PM
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7. yup, he left himself wide open, there...
what's good for the goose...
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:42 PM
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2. Trees Died for That A-hole "Book" n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:44 PM
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3. It's Recycled Toilet Paper
:shrug:
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samdogmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:45 PM
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4. Good idea! This book is probably already half written just from threads
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 03:55 PM by samdogmom
on this site. A few days ago there was a thread about the "real" 100 people who are messing up our country. It's a great starting point. I'll do a search and try to find the link.

Edit: Here's the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4132757

It got locked, I'm not sure why. I hope this is okay to post. (Apologies in advance if I've broken a rule--I'm really not trying to cause problems.)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:09 PM
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18. Yeah. we could sell it and raise $$ for DU
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:46 PM
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5. Lets start a list
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 04:34 PM by pointblank
No particular order yet. Rank em later.


1.Bush
2.Cheney
3.Rumsfeld
4.Rice
5.Scotty
6.Rove
7.Ashcroft
8.Hannity
9.Limbaugh
10.O'Reilly
11.Gibson
12.Glen Beck
13.Ingraham
14.Liddy
15.Coulter
16.Sensenbrenner
17.Santorum
18.Hyde
19.The mother of all mother's, Barbara Bush?
20. Michael Ledeen
21.Manucher Ghorbanifar
22.Ahmed Chalabi
23. Richard Perle
24.Jeanne Kirkpatrick
25.William Boykin
26. Jerry Falwell
27.Bob Urosevich
28.Roberta Combs
29. Ralph Reed
30. Eugene B. Meyer
31. Ellen Bork
32. Rudy Boschwitz
33. Jeb Bush
34. James Woolsey
35. Eliot A. Cohen
36. Thomas Donnelly
37. Steve Forbes
38. Aaron Friedberg
39. Frank Gaffney
40. Reuel Marc Gerecht
41. Fred Ikle
42. Donald Kagan
43. Charles Krauthammer
44. William Kristol
45. Christopher Maletz
46. Daniel McKivergan
47. Norman Podhoretz
48. Dan Quayle
49. Stephen Rosen
50. Henry Rowen
51. Gary Schmitt
52. Vin Weber
53. George Weigel
54. Lynne Cheney
55. David Frum
56. Newt Gingrich
57. James K. Glassman
58. John Lott, Jr.
59. Joshua Muravchik
60. Michael Novak
61. Lee Raymond
62. Christina Hoff Sommers
63. Fred Thompson
64. Ben Wattenberg
65. Richard Mellon Scaife
66. R. Richardson Randolph
67. Gary Lawson
68. David M. McIntosh
69. Steven G. Calabresi
70. William J. Bennett
71. Elliott Abrams
72. Richard Armitage
73. John R. Bolton
74. Seth Cropsey
75. Paula Dobriansky
76. Francis Fukuyama
77. Bruce Jackson
78. Zalmay Khalilzad
79. Lewis Libby
80. Peter W. Rodman
81. Randy Scheunemann
82. Paul Wolfowitz
83. Dov S. Zakheim
84.Robert B. Zoellick
85. Gary Bauer


EDITED TO UPDATE LIST


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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:49 PM
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6. And could I add
Sensenbrenner, Rice, Santorum, Hyde and the mother of all mother's, Barbara Bush?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:52 PM
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8. The SC Justices who voted to end the vote count in 2000
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:53 PM
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9. Names?
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:07 PM
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11. The one who will write the book can go look it up
:rofl:
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 03:55 PM
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10. a few more probably not so commonly thought of
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 04:10 PM by wli
1. Michael Ledeen
2. Manucher Ghorbanifar
3. Ahmed Chalabi
4. Richard Perle
5. Jeanne Kirkpatrick
6. William Boykin
7. Jerry Falwell
8. Bob Urosevich
9. Roberta Combs
10. Ralph Reed
11. Eugene B. Meyer
12. Gary Lawson
13. David M. McIntosh
14. Steven G. Calabresi
15. William J. Bennett
16. Elliott Abrams
17. Richard Armitage
18. John R. Bolton
19. Seth Cropsey
20. Paula Dobriansky
21. Francis Fukuyama
22. Bruce Jackson
23. Zalmay Khalilzad
24. Lewis Libby
25. Peter W. Rodman
26. Randy Scheunemann
27. Paul Wolfowitz
28. Dov S. Zakheim
29. Robert B. Zoellick
30. Gary Bauer
31. Ellen Bork
32. Rudy Boschwitz
33. Jeb Bush
34. James Woolsey
35. Eliot A. Cohen
36. Thomas Donnelly
37. Steve Forbes
38. Aaron Friedberg
39. Frank Gaffney
40. Reuel Marc Gerecht
41. Fred Ikle
42. Donald Kagan
43. Charles Krauthammer
44. William Kristol
45. Christopher Maletz
46. Daniel McKivergan
47. Norman Podhoretz
48. Dan Quayle
49. Stephen Rosen
50. Henry Rowen
51. Gary Schmitt
52. Vin Weber
53. George Weigel
54. Lynne Cheney
55. David Frum
56. Newt Gingrich
57. James K. Glassman
58. John Lott, Jr.
59. Joshua Muravchik
60. Michael Novak
61. Lee Raymond
62. Christina Hoff Sommers
63. Fred Thompson
64. Ben Wattenberg
65. Richard Mellon Scaife
66. R. Richardson Randolph

ON EDIT: added in Federalist Society board of directors, AEI members, PNAC members, Christian Coalition directors, and some of the funders' directors.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:09 PM
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13. Don't forget Toxic Tom Delay! n/t
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:44 PM
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22. Updated
No particular order yet. Rank em later.


1.Bush
2.Cheney
3.Rumsfeld
4.Rice
5.Scotty
6.Rove
7.Ashcroft
8.Hannity
9.Limbaugh
10.O'Reilly
11.Gibson
12.Glen Beck
13.Ingraham
14.Liddy
15.Coulter
16.Sensenbrenner
17.Santorum
18.Hyde
19.The mother of all mother's, Barbara Bush?
20. Michael Ledeen
21.Manucher Ghorbanifar
22.Ahmed Chalabi
23. Richard Perle
24.Jeanne Kirkpatrick
25.William Boykin
26. Jerry Falwell
27.Bob Urosevich
28.Roberta Combs
29. Ralph Reed
30. Eugene B. Meyer
31. Ellen Bork
32. Rudy Boschwitz
33. Jeb Bush
34. James Woolsey
35. Eliot A. Cohen
36. Thomas Donnelly
37. Steve Forbes
38. Aaron Friedberg
39. Frank Gaffney
40. Reuel Marc Gerecht
41. Fred Ikle
42. Donald Kagan
43. Charles Krauthammer
44. William Kristol
45. Christopher Maletz
46. Daniel McKivergan
47. Norman Podhoretz
48. Dan Quayle
49. Stephen Rosen
50. Henry Rowen
51. Gary Schmitt
52. Vin Weber
53. George Weigel
54. Lynne Cheney
55. David Frum
56. Newt Gingrich
57. James K. Glassman
58. John Lott, Jr.
59. Joshua Muravchik
60. Michael Novak
61. Lee Raymond
62. Christina Hoff Sommers
63. Fred Thompson
64. Ben Wattenberg
65. Richard Mellon Scaife
66. R. Richardson Randolph
67. Gary Lawson
68. David M. McIntosh
69. Steven G. Calabresi
70. William J. Bennett
71. Elliott Abrams
72. Richard Armitage
73. John R. Bolton
74. Seth Cropsey
75. Paula Dobriansky
76. Francis Fukuyama
77. Bruce Jackson
78. Zalmay Khalilzad
79. Lewis Libby
80. Peter W. Rodman
81. Randy Scheunemann
82. Paul Wolfowitz
83. Dov S. Zakheim
84.Robert B. Zoellick
85. Gary Bauer
86. James Dobson
87. Ken Lay
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:45 PM
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23. If somebody has time...
Could you copy and paste the list and add a description of who some of these people are..the more obscure ones in particular.

I dont have time to do the research now.

Thanks
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:09 PM
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12. William Rivers Pitt - where are you? You could go on all the talk
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 04:09 PM by spenbax
shows and get a bunch of points across about how these thugs have damn near ruined our wonderful country. Hell, you could write it one night.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:16 PM
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14. the laziest piece of writing i've ever seen
his al franken chapter was pathetic. i thought goldberg would at least attempt to address the critiquiqe al gave him, but instead he just writes a phony interview where al screams 'liar' repetitively

the garofalo quotes are laughable, because anyone who saw the original bits knows they were sarcastic. goldberg prints them as if they were sincere.

the inclusion of paris hilton is funny, too. wasn't rightwing media mogul rupert murdoch who gave her a show in the first place?

goldberg also attacks the left for name-calling. then while criticizing michael savage (one of three conservatives on his list -the others being david duke and roy moore) he lets ann coulter off the hook, stating that her remarks are delivered 'with a twinkle in her eye"

there's nothing new in this book. some chapters are just cut-and-pastes from newsmax. even if i agreed with the guy, i'd be pissed for getting ripped off by such a half-assed 'writing effort'
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:31 PM
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15. Actually Paris Hilton wasn't included....Her parents were.
I heard Goldberg on Hannity (Who of course loved the book but was upset that Roy Moore was on the list, go figure) say something along the lines that she was just a product of bad parenting and really was insignificant.

What a tool.
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 04:34 PM
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16. 100 fascist gas bags ,....
Rush Limbaugh
Michael Savage
Bill O'Reilly
Sean Hannity
...
Ann Coulter
Carl Rove
and other AM Radio bozos
and politicals

...
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:07 PM
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17. why don't we do a DU authored book on this
i've written or edited over 15 books btw.
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:28 PM
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19. Lets do it...Need more suggestions.
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:31 PM
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20. James Dobson
should be near the top of the list, Did you add Ken Lay?
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:43 PM
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21. Done
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:05 AM
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30. some to add to the list
Barbara Bush
half the supreme court
Rush Limbaugh
Fox New (Hannity, Humes, Wolf)
Ann Coulter
Bernard Goldberg
Arnold Sw.
Cruella


this is too easy.

The title should be '200 living Conservatives and neo-Conservatives who have ruined America'.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:39 PM
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28. I've written three but they are books for caregivers of Alzheimer's
disease. My publisher is limited to these types of books, so no help there. Can you suggest a publisher?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:06 AM
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31. i think we can find a publisher - we just need to get a writing team
together.
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Kingshakabobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 05:51 PM
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24. The funny thing is that Goldberg isn't even important enough to make...
the list.

He is nothing but an angry little man who has an axe to grind with CBS and now Al Franken
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:01 PM
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26. he was a shitty reporter at CBS who didn't ..
amount to anything ...

"He is nothing but an angry little man who has an axe to grind with CBS and now Al Franken"
yep

and now he's on his knees sucking Rethuglican (explative deleted).
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:01 PM
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25. What, you think "they" care about precedent?
Understand, please, that to anyone who reads and agrees with Goldberg's opinions, it is not "a nasty book", but rather an accurate accounting of the top one hundred liberal offenders. If liberals came up with something directly analogous, it will be still be pouted about and whined at (and panned and denigrated and burned in piles) as "those liberals writing a nasty book."

If you claim precedent, they'll say, "But Goldberg was RIGHT!"

And you'll say, "But that's what you think, I think otherwise. You think this book is nasty, I think Goldberg's book was nasty."

Then they'll tell you that you're what's wrong with America, that your opinions are treasonous, and you shouldn't be allowed to vote. And go right back to pouting and whining about "those liberals writing a nasty book."
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:27 PM
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27. But it's just too good to pass up...
Like that clown with the big floppy shoes bending over right in front of you...you just gotta kick those oversized polka-dot pants!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:05 PM
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29. All Those Reich-Wing Books Will Come In Handy When We Run Out Fuel
to heat our homes.

I mean, it would really hurt to burn London or Steinbeck.

Goldberg or Coulter, on the other hand . . .

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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 11:07 AM
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32. that's a good idea!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:45 PM
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33. I will write it...I pulled the lists off this thread
Once upon a time (in the archived thread pointed to up-thread) I noted that it should be a list containing only living neocons, but since we're writing a book now, dead ones who really screwed things up should be included. This means Reagan gets in. It means Nixon gets in.

Also, let's bunch most of the talking heads up into their own chapter. The three major reich-wing talking-head players out there are Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly. If we did the second-stringers like Coulter and Sowell in their own chapters, this shit's gonna get very boring very quickly. But lumping everyone but the top three into one chapter called "The Second Banana Brigade" would give us one short, funny, quick-reading entry.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 02:48 PM
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34. how does one top this for sheer, venal laziness? the bug story...
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 02:48 PM by Gabi Hayes
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