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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:05 PM
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Santorum on Hardball Now!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:07 PM
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1. Thanks for the heads up. I hope he says something stupid. n/t
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:09 PM
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7. that's like saying
"I hope it gets dark tonight."
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:14 PM
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17. Too true........n/t
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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:09 PM
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8. Of course he did
He opened his mouth & spoke.


Keith’s Barbeque Central
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:07 PM
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2. ass.
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Pam-Moby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:07 PM
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3. Yes, I see that.
He is a poopiehead.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:08 PM
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4. watching!
he is saying that stay-at-home moms get no respect in America. What bull, I was a sahm for years, and was thought of as lucky by most of my working friends. No one looked down on me.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:14 PM
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16. My experience, too
I stayed at home with my kids when they were little and never once did anyone disrespect me.

I don't think anyone frowns on stay at home moms. It is a myth that it perpetuated by the RW to make working women feel guilty. It's bullshit.

Each family must decide what works for them. Sometimes women want to work. Sometimes women have to work. Sometimes the dads stay home.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:28 PM
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29. Absolutely.
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 06:50 PM by FLDem5
Generally, in my experience (flamers, please note the disclaimer!), women with careers chose to stay at work, because of the respect and salary - both very positive feedback - they got made them better parents (in the sense of being personally fulfilled and passing on positive attitude, personal satisfaction and self-esteem to their kids).

Women with jobs (like me!) who saw a better opportunity to pour themselves into their kids, homes and communities than typing someone's meaningless memo, tried to make staying at home work, financially.

What Santorum and others like him don't take into account, is that stay-at-home moms are often the ones who volunteer at churches, in schools, scout troops, community centers, youth sports leagues, and such. These positions are very fulfilling for women (or sah Dads, too) - so they help them become better parents too.
HOWEVER - I go to board meetings several evenings a month. I am on the computer typing letters, sending emails, on the phone coordinating events - these positions take almost as much time away from my family as a full-time job would. No joke.

Where would their precious religious organizations be without SAHM volunteers to run the programs? Should they be shut down to keep those moms at home with their kids? Hmmmm????
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:34 PM
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32. I don't know about you
but the Reagan years and his ruthless economic attack on the middle class in this country effectively made staying at home for EITHER parent impossible for people at my income level.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:48 PM
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39. Exactly!
What about the school PTA meetings and things like that? When I was in high school I was in the band and we always had a marching band festival where people would come and compete and guess who helped us run the stands and stuff? Majority were women! Sure some men helped but they mostly did the heavier stuff and all that. And at football games the mom's also mostly did things as well. So I guess Santorum doesn't want me as a woman to do anything except stay home, have babies, sit on my ass all day and watch my soaps and clean house and cook him dinner and bring it to him while he sits on his ass and doesn't do shit. He can go and Cheney himself.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:52 PM
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43. That's right - it is always the Moms, taking time away from
their families to help out to oil that machinery that is a community. They are not showing Johnny flashcards and reading the bible with Susan 24/7. They are leaving kids #2 and 3 with a sitter/neighbor/older sibling so they can volunteer for child #1.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:46 PM
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37. Oh brother!
More like the women who do work! When was the last time you heard in the news about a woman who started her own business or a woman who got that REALLY BIG promotion that usually a man gets? Santorum can kiss my white female ass!
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:08 PM
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5. "liberals view freedom as a selfish freedom".
ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:12 PM
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13. What does that even mean?
You know, I'm starting to think he really doesn't want to be a senator again.
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:15 PM
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19. Damn liberals. Why are they so selfish?
Why don't they vote for MEEEEEE!!!!

(whine whine whine!!)
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:18 PM
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24. Seriously, doesn't it sound like he doesn't want to be elected?
What sane person would say that kind of brainless crap?
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:50 PM
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41. He's appearing to his base
The fundies. Isn't a guy named Kennedy running against him (Bobby or something like that)? I hope whomever is running against him wins in a huge number.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:17 PM
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21. WTF
does that mean??? That is the most moronic statement. It sounds all significant but really means absolutely nothing.

WTF is selfish freedom?

Mz Pip
:dem:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:53 PM
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45. Probably abortion, stem cells, etc.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 07:58 PM
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46. Idiots need to be called on this rhetoric
There is nothing "selfish" about wanting to get well. There is nothing selfish about stem cell research since it will benefit conservatives as much as liberals - unless the cons refuse to take advantage of any advances to medicine made by stem cell research. Tell me how many KKK Jew hating white supremists haven't had a polio vaccine. Discovered by a Jew so if they were really true to their beliefs they would pass on that.

These people are reactionary wackos. They can't see beyond their own nose. I would put money on it if Sanitorium's grandma had Parkinson's and stem cell research provided a cure he would be first in line to make sure she got it.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:29 PM
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30. Actually, it's just the opposite....
We accept the freedom of others to live differently than we do.

It's the Santorums of the world who need everyone to be alike.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:09 PM
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6. Tweety, "why don't you stay home?"
ha ha ha!

Tweety, "always the woman who GETS to stay home" (emphasis mine) What a dork.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:51 PM
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42. LOL on Tweety!
Good one! LOL! Maybe Santorum should stay home for a week and take care of the kids and see how he likes it! Oh yeah. We're soooo thankful we GET to stay home. :eyes: We're so lucky we should kiss your feet everyday when you walk into the house.

:sarcasm:
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:10 PM
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9. 50 years ago,... blah, blah, blah
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:21 PM
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27. WHY DON'T THEY MENTION SEGREGATED SCHOOLS 50 YEARS AGO?
Those "oh it was so great fifty years ago" jerks forget about these charming milestones of yore:

1.women couldn't get a real job or go to college

2.women had to stay married to abusive spouses because they could not survive otherwise. (divorce rates were lower - no you know why!)

3. Schools were segregated.

4. People of different races had to drink out of separate water fountains.

The list goes on and on of those charming times. You know that jerks like Santorum really want it like that. I hate him.
:grr:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:39 PM
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34. Women went to college 50 years ago.
Harvard had a sister school called Radcliffe.

The Abbot and Costello movie, "Here Come the Co-Eds" is from 1945.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:04 PM
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47. I stand corrected
They just couldn't go to ANY SCHOOL - only chick schools. :)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:11 PM
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10. "Why don't 'they' accept the responsibility of staying home with the kids"
Gee Ricky & Chris...Could it be that without TWO parents working, MOST families would never own a house for that family? or that they could have a rough time feeding them?

and there are probably LOTS of mothers out there who would love to stay home, but for the fact that Dad bailed on them for a younger 'chickie'..

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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:11 PM
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11. Santorum is right. Taxes are too high.
Maybe we should stop.. I dunno....invading places???
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:12 PM
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12. here we go - let's do away with social programs
what a surprise.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:15 PM
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18. The Red staters on Medicare, CHIP, Welfare hate Blue big
government, WTF? GOP big government are plots to take over the world! While dismantiling the infrastructure of the US. Glad I live in PA so I can help take this asshat down on '06
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:13 PM
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14. Argh! Women DO have choices now
just ones that make them financially independant if they so choose.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:14 PM
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15. Does anyone know how/where Santorum made his fortune?
or should I say the fortune he inherited?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:40 PM
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35. He doesn't have a fortune (nt)
nt
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:50 PM
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40. I thought he must have a lot of $$$ - 6 kids, wife doesn't work
Edited on Wed Jul-27-05 06:51 PM by Beaverhausen
guess I was wrong.

edit- I was wrong about how many kids he has too.
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powergirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:16 PM
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20. I AM SO SICK OF TWEETY SUCKING UP TO HIM
Why does he interview that way. I think Tweety's still mad that Clinton wouldn't let him be press secretary so he takes shots at dems and sucks up to repubs any time he can. We need David Gregory to take over the interview. :grr:
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:17 PM
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and the show
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:17 PM
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22. "You are what you say you are"
when did santorum say he was an ass?
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:17 PM
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23. "Senator Santorum, how do you equate having an openly gay staff member...
with your strident homophobia"

Of course, that question won't be asked by Tweety.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:53 PM
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44. Or someone should ask his staff member
What the hell are they doing working for Santorum?
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:18 PM
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25. Dan Quayle, Part Deux
Takin' on dangerous social messages like those on "Murphy Brown" and all them uppity career women, why it just....kills a political career.

Update your resume, Senator.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:20 PM
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26. Nicely put.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:24 PM
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28. Santorum: "Wars are not heavy lifting,Entitlement programs are"
What a fucking idiot.Go over to Iraq if its so damn easy.Several hundred billion on an unecessary war not heavy lifting? 1700+ dead not heavy lifting? (That quote should be passed around)

He complains about women who take jobs but doesnt mention that the tax cuts for the rich,the tax breaks for corporations,the pharmaceutical companies artificially inflating health care costs give them no other option but to work in most cases.

He said the middle class was being overtaxed which is why alot of women cant choose whether or not to stay home.He is right about that.He and his friends made sure of it,now this scumbag writes a book that paints a broad brush about working mothers neglegting their kids.Fucking evil man.


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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:29 PM
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31. He is a joke.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:35 PM
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33. If re-elected, a very unfunny joke
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 08:10 PM
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48. Just all those coffins that need lifted.
Santorum is an evil man.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:44 PM
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36. SOMEBODY ask him
1. If marriage is to be revered, why did you insert yourself in Michael and Terri Schiavo's marriage and why do you continue to defend that position?

2. If you believe in eliminating social programs, shouldn't you use the revenues from this book to pay back your debt to the taxpayers of Pennsylvania for your home schooling debacle? After all, you didn't have a legal address in the state of Pennsylvania while you sucked more than 200K from your constituents.
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JohnnyBoots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-27-05 06:47 PM
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38. Silly Democrat,
rules don't apply to Republicans.
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