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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:43 PM
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Holy Crap !!! Am I The Only One Who Missed This ??? (Wilson\Cheney\Ledeen)
The Hand of Cheney
Did Dick Finger Valerie?

RAY McGOVERN, Former CIA analyst

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Who authored the forgery remains a mystery-but one that our Republican-controlled Congress has avoided trying to solve, even though many legislators expressed outrage at having been snookered into voting for war. Senate intelligence committee chair Pat Roberts, R, Kansas), a White House loyalist, has demonstrated a curious lack of curiosity. And nothing that ranking minority member Jay Rockefeller did could persuade Roberts to ask the FBI to investigate.

So those searching for answers are reduced to asking the obvious: Cui bono? Who stood to benefit from such a forgery? A no-brainer-those lusting for war on Iraq. And who might they be? Look up the "neo-conservative" writings on the website of the Project for the New American Century. There you will find information on people like Michael Ledeen, "Freedom Analyst" at the American Enterprise Institute and a key strategist among "neoconservative" hawks in and out of the Bush administration. Applauding the invasion of Iraq, Ledeen asserted-with equal enthusiasm-that the war could not be contained, and that "it may turn out to be a war to remake the world."

Beyond his geopolitical punditry, Ledeen's curriculum vitae shows he is no stranger to rogue operations. A longtime Washington operative, he was fired as a "consultant" for the National Security Council under President Ronald Reagan for running fool's errands for Oliver North during the Iran-Contra subterfuge. One of Ledeen's Iran-Contra partners in crime, so to speak, was Elliot Abrams, who was convicted of lying to Congress about Iran-Contra. Abrams was pardoned before jail time, however, by George H. W. Bush, and he is now George W. Bush's deputy national security adviser. Ledeen is said to enjoy easy entrée to the office of the vice president as well as to his friend Abrams.

During a radio interview with Ian Masters on April 3, 2005, former CIA operative Vincent Cannistraro charged that the Iraq-Niger documents were forged in the United States. Drawing on earlier speculation regarding who forged the documents, Masters asked, "If I were to say the name Michael Ledeen to you, what would you say?" Cannistraro replied, "You're very close."

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Much more: http://www.uruknet.info/?p=m13926&l=i&size=1&hd=0

Better get some new batteries for your pacemaker... DICK!!!

:wow::bounce::wow:


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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:46 PM
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1. no, I've had to scream about Ledeen, Ghorbanifar, et al for a while now
It's kind of depressing.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:48 PM
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3. Damn... Coulda Knocked Me Over With A Feather !!!
Must have been comatose that day, LOL!!!

:hi:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:53 PM
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7. heh...us longtime BFEE watchers have been on this for quite a while.
.
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bribri16 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:27 PM
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16. But what the hell is the American media saying about this shit?
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! People you have to get the information out there to a brain-dead and brain-dying nation. I heard today that "hate speech" was going to include suggestions that terror acts were caused by our (US) policies. Soon you will not be able to form an intelligent opinion that criticizes the US without being subject to prosecution for hate speech against the US. How long before America wakes up? We have lost our freedoms not only to the Al-qaeda terrorists but to our own right-wing conservative terrorists who now control our government.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:18 PM
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19. Because the guy left the CIA in 1991.
His connections are his own, and can't be cited by name to give him current authority.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:48 PM
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2. good find....while searching for stuff on Dewey Clarridge, I came
across the Niger forgery stuff, too

Clarridge is also a suspect, along w/that uberskunk Ledeen
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:49 PM
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4. i have said cheney from day one. read something
and i havent found anything to change my mind
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jn2375 Donating Member (858 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:50 PM
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5. kick
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:51 PM
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6. No, I missed that, too.
Thanks much for posting it!

:bounce:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:54 PM
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8. BOOOOOMMM (thunder-clap)
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 03:55 PM by jsamuel
I feel a storm comming on...

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:54 PM
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9. Thanks - I didn't see this article
Ledeen has been in the crosshairs around DU for some time. But he sure manages to stay in the shadows.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 03:54 PM
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10. ledeen-chalabi-judy Miller oh my!
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i miss america Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:01 PM
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11. There was an excellent article a couple of weeks ago at antiwar.com
I think the author is right on the money...
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=6677
Published July 15, 2005

This isn't about Rove.

It's about a cabal of war hawks inside the administration who passed on this information to others without telling them about Plame-Wilson's deep cover status, perhaps suggesting that she was just an analyst working at a desk rather than a covert operative involved in a vitally important overseas operation, the knowledge of which was highly compartmentalized and only dispensed on a need-to-know basis. When Rove and his shills blabbed to reporters and anyone who would listen, they didn't realize that they were aiding and abetting an elaborate ploy to stick it to the CIA.

Seen against the backdrop of the fierce intra-bureaucratic war that broke out in the administration in the run-up to the Iraq war – with the CIA and the mainline intelligence and diplomatic communities pitted against civilian neoconservatives in the upper echelons of the Pentagon and the Office of the Vice President – the outing of Plame and her colleagues amounts to an act of espionage committed out of a desire to exact revenge. The leakers meant to retaliate not just against Joe Wilson, through his wife, but against the "old guard" that was resisting the campaign to lie us into war. When the CIA wouldn't go along with the neocon program and "spice up" their analyses with Ahmed Chalabi's tall tales and the outright forgery of the Niger uranium documents, the War Party struck back at them with the sort of viciousness for which the neocons are rightly renowned.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:07 PM
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12. You might enjoy surfing here.
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Phoonzang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:10 PM
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13. Must I be the one to make a juvenile joke...
..about the subtitle of that story? Ok, fine.

Anyway....gotcha Cheney! :hi:
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:57 PM
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18. Funny!
I didn't catch that until you mentioned it.

:rofl:

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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 05:37 PM
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20. Yes... You Must, LOL !!!
:hi::rofl::hi:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:13 PM
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14. Wikipedia: Michael Ledeen
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:22 PM
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15. You might want to check out some of the stuff in this thread:
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cornermouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 04:38 PM
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17. A war to remake the world...
Edited on Thu Jul-28-05 04:47 PM by cornermouse
Why would we want to remake the world? Trying to make the world over in our image is how we got here.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:53 PM
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21. Resurrect... Er... I Mean... Kick !!!
:hi::kick::hi:
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