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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:08 AM
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CAFTA and NAFTA, I am somewhat confused.
NAFTA has allowed our jobs to go to Mexico and Canada; DVD manufacturing being a prime example in Mexico...

But in the thousands of pages that went into NAFTA (and now 2400+ for CAFTA, which seems a lot for merely "FREE trade"), what in these allowed corporations to take our jobs to India and China?

Also, because they have have sold us out TO the Chinese, do you think we deserve it should China call its trump card? (India is currently too small, but not for long...)
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:40 AM
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1. Agreements such as PNTR
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2000/02/24/national/main164639.shtml

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/966226.stm

US labour unions also fear the move could cost hundreds of thousands of jobs as Chinese goods flood the market and factories move to China to take advantage of lower wages.

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Congress passed a trade agreement with Morocco earlier this year. The Vice President of the US Chamber of Commerce was on C-SPAN the other day, and said that if he were president, he'd sign all kinds of trade agreements like the ones that have become law over the years. And corporations can do whatever the hell the want to do anyway, so.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:48 AM
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2. what in these allowed corporations to take our jobs to India and China?
GATT allowed that.
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:52 AM
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3. Hooray for the Greater North-Western Co-Prosperity Sphere...
NAFTA +
CAFTA =
--------
SHAFTA
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:54 AM
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4. Put them all together
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 08:54 AM by Armstead
Apart from the importance of individual regional trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA, you have to see them as part of a much larger process.

The goal is to lock the entire world into a "trade regime" that ursurps national politics, government and economies to create a seamless web of global neo-liberal rules and regulations that prevent nations from deviating from the regulations proscribed by the Corporate Elite.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 09:00 AM
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5. aka "globalization"
though its proponents would have us believe it's a natural process.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:20 AM
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6. There's globalization, and there's globalization....
It is natural for markets to expand into international trade.

It is unnatural for a limited version of that process to be imposed on the majority of the world by a minority.

The flow of goods and services does not have to automatically undermine national economies and poolitical systems. That's the part of Corporate Globalization that is unnatural.
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