toby kieth's decidedly PRO WAR, and pro alcoholism 'patriotic' song

[mopaul]

I had the misfortune of hearing this while going through the radio dial waiting on someone, and it struck me as awfully pro war. kept listening to that station and heard several other decidedly pro war songs with ridiculously pompous patriotic themes.

not a fan of modern country music anyway, but it seems some of them have really gone off the deep end with thier stupid redneck pro war lyrics.
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Well a man, come on
Six o'clock news
Says somebody been shot
Somebody's been abused
Somebody blew up a building
Somebody stole their car
Somebody got away
Somebody didn't get too far, yeah
They didn't get too far

Grandpappy told my pappy
Back in my day, son
A man had to answer
For the wicked thing he done
Take all the rope in Texas
Find a tall oak tree
Round up all of them bad boys
And hang 'em high in the street
For all the people to see

And justice is the one thing
You should always find
You gotta saddle up your boys
You gotta draw a hard line
When the gun smoke settles
We'll sing a victory tune
And we'll all meet back
At the local saloon

We'll raises up our glasses
Against evil forces
Singing, "Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses!"

We got too many gangsters
Doing dirty deeds
Too much corruption
And crime in the streets
It's time the long arm of the law
Put a few more in the ground
Send them all to their Maker
And he'll set them on down
You can bet, He'll set 'em down

Cause justice is the one thing
You should always find
You gotta saddle up your boys
You gotta draw a hard line
When the gunsmoke settles
We'll sing a victory tune
And we'll all meet back
At the local saloon

And we'll raise up our glasses
Against evil forces
Singing, "Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses!"
Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses!

You know justice is the one thing
You should always find
You gotta saddle up your boys
You gotta draw a hard line
When the gunsmoke settles
We'll sing a victory tune
And we'll all met back
At the local saloon

We'll raise up our glasses
Against evil forces
Singing, "Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses!"
Singing ,"Whiskey for my men, beer for my horses!'

[info being]

1. How cute. He wants to be a cowboy.

Grow up and evolve you ignorant slug.

[tmooses]

2. Sounds like the theme song for the NRA.

[Jara sang]

3. Too much corruption?

You want to clean up the corruption Toby? Start with your record label.

[wtmusic]

4. On this one I agree with Toby

As long as he includes justice for war criminals.

[HootieMcBoob]

5. That's why I'm voting for Eliot Spitzer

Let's string up some corporate criminal thieves for a change.

[beam me up scottie]

Yes, remember the good old days

when watching a lynching was a popular family activity ?

Has that pretty-boy ever served his country ?

[GreenArrow]

6. if you like that one, you'll love this one

Simple Man -- Charlie Daniels Band

I ain't nothing but a simple man
Call me a redneck, I reckon that I am
But there's things goin' on that make me mad down to the core
I have to work like a dog to make ends meet
There's crooked politicians and crime in the street
And I'm madder than hell and I ain't gonna take it no more
We tell our kids to just say no
And then some panty waist judge lets a drug dealer go
And he slaps him on the wrist and he turns him back out on the town
Well, if I had my way with people sellin' dope
I'd take a big tall tree and a short piece of rope
And hang 'em up high and let 'em swing till the sun goes down

Chorus:
Well you know what's wrong with the world today
People done gone and put their Bibles away
There livin' by law of the jungle not the law of the land
Well the good book says it, so I know it's the truth
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
You'd better watch where you go
And remember where you've been
That's the way I see it I'm a simple man

Now, I'm the kind of man that wouldn't harm a mouse
But if I catch somebody breakin' in my house
I've got a twelve gauge shotgun waitin' on the other side
So don't go pushin' me against my will
I don't want to have to fight you but I durn sure will
So if you don't want trouble that you'd better just pass me on by
As far as I'm concerned there ain't no excuse
For the raping and the killing and the child abuse
And I've got a way to put and end to all that mess
You just take those rascals out in the swamp
Put them on their knees and tie 'em to a stump
And let the rattlers and the bugs and the alligators do the rest

Chorus

String 'im up Clem! Yee Hah! Squeal like a pig!

[MGKrebs]

7. Wow. If that is not sarcasm, it is scary.

Basically advocating vigilantism, justifying hanging from a tree.

Been there, done that Toby. Didn't work then either. When societies get like that, somebody eventually intervenes to put a stop to it.

[Kalish]

8. mob violence

I guess it has it's place at times. But mobs and hanging don't go together, they usually end up getting things wrong, and hanging innocent people.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

9. Is Toby Keith a military vet by any chance?

Just wonderin...

[pstans]

10. Toby Keith and Willie Nelson sang that song together

Toby Keith has written far more pro war songs than that. The "boot in your ass" song and I think he has one out now.

[mopaul]

12. willie the dope addict appearing with kieth? what about the children?

[hollowdweller]

79. My Donkey Likes Beer

If he's running loose after a party he will hit my recycling bin and pull out bottles and tip them up to get any remainig beer. Then he drops them on the cement porch pad and shatters them. He's a wicked jackass.

[Runcible Spoon]

93. yeah my horse LOVES beer.

just make sure it's flat to protect sensitive equine tummies from colic!

[FreedomAngel82]

94. With Willie Nelson???

:crazy:

[SmokingJacket]

11. Pro-lynching, pro-vigilantism

What a load of shite.

[mzteris]

13. WTH????? It's NOT a "PRO WAR,

and pro alcoholism 'patriotic' song"

It's a VIGILANTE song. geesh - I can see the freeps and kkkers now - getting out their rope after getting their courage out of a bottle.

I can't believe this bs. (I LOATHE "country music" anyway) - but didn't I just read somewhere that this guy was supposedly a Dem? Please tell me I read wrong...... he's DIMwit surely but definitely NOT a Democrat if he's singing this cr@p.

[jane_pippin]

87. Here's some disturbing and mind boggling information:

"His outspokenness, both in his music and in the media, has put him on the national stage, and at times made him a target for criticism. But it many ways, such hits come with the territory his expansive public persona now occupies. The hawkish theme of "Courtesy" led many to an ill-informed conclusion that Keith, a lifelong Democrat, is a hardcore right winger."

http://countrymusic.about.com/od/tobykeith/a/bltkeith_bio_2.htm


So yeah. He thinks he's a Democrat. I'd add a smart ass comment about it but I'm still trying to comprehend that bit of information without my brain exploding.

[mzteris]

97. He must be a

DIXIEcrat "democrat"......

there is no way in H@LL he's thinking up those types of lyrics - and putting them out there to influence others - if is a REAL Democrat.

He'd have to be a total sell-out - and that- by definition - would preclude him from being a true Dem. Just my opinion, of course. And I am completely anti-"country music" so that could be influencing my POV.

[jane_pippin]

100. Well and he's gotta be nuts

I think he just says it in a sad attempt to have it both ways and therefore piss his critics off even more than he would if he said he were a Republican.

[beam me up scottie]

14. A lot of white men love lynching.

Too bad the law put an end to all of their fun.

[H5N1]

21. Not if he has any say. He wants to bring back lynchin' - soon.

[beam me up scottie]

27. Apparently, he's got quite a fan base here.

Judging by some of the responses.

[KC_25]

32. Actually

Fan or not has little to do with it...
If we can't let folks express ideas that we disagree with, or do not like, then what good is free speech? right?
Or does it only apply to things that we like?
SO you don't like the song...don't listen to it.
The same thing that I tell fundies when they bitch about porn..
don't like it...don't look at it...

list goes on and on.

[beam me up scottie]

33. So we can't post about a pro-lynching song or the asshole who sings it?

If you don't like it, click on another thread.

[LSK]

15. ummm that song is not about War and is a duet with Willie Nelson

You are right about Toby Keith. You just have the wrong song. I think that song pre-dates the war in Iraq.

[KC_25]

16. If you do not like it...

do not listen to it.

Right?
Disagree with it all you want to, but what it boils down to is that people have to have choice to read "Cat on a Hot Tin Roof", "Of mice and men" "rainbow six" or "Mein Kampf" if they want to.

and on edit Listen to Bob Dylan or Toby Keith or CCR or whatever they want..

Free speech is free speech...right?
But to address the point, I do not think that the song is Pro-war,I think that it is more pro police if anything, which is funny because it is a duet with Willie Nelson who is very much anti-establishment. But hey, again, it is your choice not to listen to it.

[mopaul]

18. We'll raises up our glasses against evil forces...what evil forces?

fuck toby kieth and his so called country music

[KC_25]

19. Ok, so you don't like it..

good for you, don't listen to it and move on.

[LSK]

20. or at least attack a real Pro War country song, there are plenty out there

[beam me up scottie]

22. Tell you what Sparky, if you don't like this thread, YOU can move on.

This is a public forum, pal.

[Carni]

46. Keith's shitty lyrics and country music BOTH SUCK

I don't listen to it--detest it and who said anything about censoring his dumb ass?

The man can spew any blather that he likes and I in turn can post anywhere I like about what a knuckle dragging red neck I think he AND his listeners are.

If YOU don't like that then don't read these threads and *move on*

[Maru Kitteh]

80. Oh to hell with that, we'll talk about the little fat bastard and his crap

"music" all we want to.

If you don't like the thread, don't read it and move on.

[jmowreader]

82. I'll raise up MY glass against evil forces, that's fer sure...

and the first evil forces I'll raise it up against are the entire Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Condi...

[formernaderite]

84. whiskey for my men, beer for my horses...a line from an old

John Wayne movie....and the song has nothing to do with the war. It's meant to be campy, after making the video Willie and Keith considered doing a movie or television series. And no the song has nothing to do with lynching black men either....it's a song about the wild west...geez, let's get a life folks. Yeah, I listen to country and Dylan, and a whole lot more...I'm an old ex-hippy geezer who isn't as concerned with all this politcally correct bullshit that seems to thrive here at times.

[me b zola]

86. I'm all for free speech, it tells me a lot about someone

Someones library & music collection tell me volumes about that person.

Billy Holiday sang a song about "...black bodies hanging from the poplar tree..." Strange Fruit was the name of that song.

And then I guess other people's musical taste would include Toby's hanging song.

People have the right to like & listen to either song...I have the right to be inclined to have a more favorable opinion of the BH collector, and form a different opinion about someone who likes TK's hanging song.


:hi:

[IdaBriggs]

17. Woo Hoo! What a GREAT ANTI-BUSH SONG!!!

Evil Force -- Corruption -- Could he have spelled it out any clearer? :)

[H5N1]

23. Fraid he really means Muslims, gays, uppity women, Liberals...

people like that there.
His fans get the code.

[mopaul]

25. i'm no fan, and i 'got it' too

sounds like a kkklan song to me.

[IdaBriggs]

38. But he said "Too much corruption" -- who else could that be ...?

And, for the record, if Texas HAD the good sense to lynch this scum bucket, the country wouldn't be in the mess it is today.

Dear God in Heaven, did I just officially come out PRO-LYNCHING???

My, my, what has the world come to.....

:spank:

[beam me up scottie]

24. Woo Hoo ! Lynching !!!! What a great amerikkkan pastime!

:eyes:

[mopaul]

26. we ain't had us a good hangin' in a coon's age

from a ren and stimpy cartoon.

[beam me up scottie]

29. Yee haw!

[IdaBriggs]

40. I'm afraid I'm in the Lynching camp. Sigh.

Don't know how or when it happened, but sometime between "great Anti-Bush song" and "but it says too much corruption" I somehow decided that everything is the fault of Texas. If they had done their patriotic duty and lynched this SOB when he was robbing them blind with that baseball stadium deal, the country wouldn't be in the mess it is today.

How on earth could good Texas folk get fooled by a Connecticut Cowboy? And how did I, a peaceable Independent liberal woman end up depressed because the opportunity for a good public hanging was missed?

The world is a very odd place today! :spank:

[beam me up scottie]

45. Guilty criminals were not always the ones getting lynched.

And if they brought it back, I would be one of the "wicked ones" that deserves to be hanged.

So I'm not overly fond of the idea myself.

[SheepyMcSheepster]

52. seriously

how do you know that toby keith considers you a "wicked one".
i'm dying to know.......

[beam me up scottie]

55. I'm sure the KKK would be more than happy to

provide you with a list.
Or you could check out the old photographs of lynch mobs and their victims.

Do you think only the guilty got lynched back in the good old days?

[SheepyMcSheepster]

58. the question is about you and what you think toby keith thinks about you

how do you know he considers you a "wicked one"?

[beam me up scottie]

60. I suggest you read my post again.

Or better yet, I'll re-post:

"Guilty criminals were not always the ones getting lynched.
And if they brought it back, I would be one of the "wicked ones" that deserves to be hanged.

So I'm not overly fond of the idea myself."

[SheepyMcSheepster]

63. what do you mean?

are you saying you would be hanged because you are innocent?
or for other reasons?

and don't get me wrong, i am not trying to be intentionally obtuse.
what i read into your comments is that you are afriad people like toby keith would believe that you deserve to be lynched. i am simply trying to find out what leads you to believe that.

[beam me up scottie]

65. The lyrics

"Grandpappy told my pappy
Back in my day, son
A man had to answer
For the wicked thing he done"

I am talking about who was hanged "back in the day"

From The Awful Truth: Lynching In America:

'Domestic Terrorism'

Although most lynchings happened between the 1890s and the 1920s, the practice began in the 1870s and continued into the 1960s. The majority of lynchings took place in the South, but they were committed in 46 states. Both men and women were lynched, though most of the victims were men. Lynching victims included some Native American and white people, but the vast majority of victims were black. Approximately 5,000 people are known to have been victims of lynching, though most scholars believe the actual number to be much higher. The exact count will never be known. While illegal, the practice was so ingrained in the culture that many lynchings were committed in public, with the knowledge -- even cooperation -- of the police and local officials. Most lynchings were reported simply as "death at the hands of persons unknown."

Lynchings were generally committed, according to their perpetrators, as acts of vigilante justice -- summary executions -- in response to alleged crimes committed by the victims. But many of lynching's victims were accused of no crime at all. They were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time, or were seen merely looking at a white woman. In many cases, the victim did absolutely nothing; he was simply black.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=30&ItemID=2097

They could lynch anybody they wanted to for any reason and all they had to do was claim that the hangee had done a wicked thing.
(like be a different color, godless, homosexual, promiscuous, a rebel, a witch, or simply available when they needed something to rally villagers.)

[SheepyMcSheepster]

66. ok

fair enough.

you are saying that anyone could decide for multiple reasons that you are wicked.

i was just curious as to what you know about toby keith that would make you feel explicitly threatened by him (that sounds silly i know) and i guess that is where we are having the disconnect in this conversation.

i completely understand how one would view any talk of lynching as a very bad thing. however, in this context, i feel like they are pretending that everything would be handled justly, i.e. a perfect world scenario where only the guilty are hanged.

that past shows that this was not the case, but again i feel like the song is about handling things fairly (of course with no due process, fair goes out the window) and taking care of the "bad" things in the world as opposed to actively seeking out innocents to lynch.

[beam me up scottie]

68. Anytime I hear anybody talk about the "Good Old Days"

I get my back up.

Those people are either delusional or view history through lily-white revisionist sunglasses.

As bad as things may seem now, it was a thousand times worse back in the the good old days.

I would LOVE the opportunity to kick Toby's scrawny redneck ass for a number of reasons, not the least of them being this song, which I heard for the first time today.

And I would gladly pay for the luxury of never having to hear anything by or about him ever again.
:evilgrin:

[SheepyMcSheepster]

69. i feel like a lot of these people just don't get it

they honestly feel like back in the day things were simpler and better not realizing the implications of what they are actually endorsing.

so the reason i argue about this kind of stuff is that i feel like these people are probably well intentioned just a bit ignorant.

what i mean is that i don't think toby sings a song about lynching specifically to create the imagery of lynching Innocent people.

do i think he is a racist liberal hating scumbag?
no

do i think he is an ignorant overzealous loudmouth?
yes

[beam me up scottie]

70. He gives his fans what they want

and they're usually racist liberal hating scumbags.

I actually do think he's a racist/nationalist and is more than happy to encourage his fans to hate Arabs.

He's also a pretty-boy candy ass who wouldn't be able to fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

But, that's just MHO. I really detest cowboy wanna-be's.

[anarch]

28. pro-lynching

and pro-animal cruelty (giving a horse beer instead of water?)

what a winner!

[mopaul]

31. the men get whiskey and all the horses get is beer?

my horse drinks what i drink.

[Scurrilous]

56. Giving the horses beer...

...makes them more amenable to milking. :thumbsup:

[SheepyMcSheepster]

30. the song doesn't really bother me

it is a song about the "good ole" days, it is not a song about today.
read what you want into it, but to me it seems be to be about standing up for what's right and bringing justice to those that do wicked deeds to others. it's pretty ambigious.

unlike "we'll put a boot up their ass, it's the american way"

i can't stand toby keith but i can listen to this song i guess because willy is in there.

so think what you want of it, i find it pretty harmless.

[getmeouttahere]

35. It's all part of the mentality of this country...

shoot first, ask questions later...

Willie or not, it's garbage, but hey, if you want to listen to it and put more money in the pockets of this jingoistic redneck, it is still sort of a free country!

[SheepyMcSheepster]

47. i agree with you

but all in all it is not any different than a gangsta rap song.

i don't really consider it garbage, musically speaking i find it tolerable, more so than a lot of crap played on the radio.

don't get me wrong, i am not rushing out to by the album. i am just saying i don't mind if i hear it on the radio.

and yes it romanticizes the idea of vigilante justice and that is bad, but i don't find it to be out right encouraging it. like i said it seems like a reminiscent song about the "old times" which can mean many different things to many different people.

bottom line for me, i could careless, there are much more shitty and offense songs to harp on.

[Village Idiot]

34. He is, quite literally, the worst of the worst...

A parasite, feeding off the misery of others...

[beam me up scottie]

36. Guess who were considered "wicked men" and part of the "evil forces" ?

If they brought back lynching, how many DUers would be hanged ?

Like I said, many white men (as long as they're straight and christian) love the idea of bringing back lynching.

[tblue37]

37. Hah!

We got too many gangsters
Doing dirty deeds
Too much corruption. . . .

Sounds like he is referring to the BushCo misadministration <LOL>.

[Carni]

39. Sounds like he condones lynching

Too much crime in the streets? Hanging em high from the trees?
IMO That asshole isn't even talking about *terra*...it sounds to me like an anthem for the KKK.

[beam me up scottie]

42. That's basically what it is.

There's a reason why certain people like this song and it isn't because they dig the pretty-boy.

[Carni]

49. I get so sick of the red necked mantra

About how they are "the victims" of anyone but their own kind
(that would be other fat, lazy and stupid red necked men)

They are the biggest group of whiners on the planet.

[beam me up scottie]

53. I was in a department store the other day

and one of the tvs in electronics was playing footage from one of his concerts.
The bubba-ettes were practically having orgasms watching him.
I almost lost my lunch.
Pathetic.

[Carni]

71. I ahd the misfortune of going to a laundromat for a couple of weeks

Because of a plumbing problem and I cannot begin to describe the horrors within...Faux news on every channel.

Toby Keith and the like playing on the radio--it was putrid.

The whole place was basically filled with people that didn't have two cents to rub together and there they sit parked in front of faux news lapping it all up with a big spoon.

I wanted to scream "Get a clue people you're being played!"

[Strawman]

41. Any song that begins with "well a man, come on"

Just promises to be a lyrical masterpiece.

[mnmoderatedem]

43. only made it about 2/3 of the way though

and had to stop. Too close to lunch time...

[newportdadde]

44. Not that pro-war. Try Keith's other one or Worley(binLaden = Saddam) song.

If you want a pro-war Toby Keith song look for the good "well put a boot in your ass its the American way song".

Toby's made a lot of money from kids dying.

Better yet try Worley's song.. "have you forgotten" I use to love how that was played 24/7 when we got ready to attack Iraq.

I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground?
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start preaching
Let me ask you this my friend

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it every day
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And we vowed to get the ones behind Bin Laden - ... :wtf:
Have you forgotten?

I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet that they remember
Just what they're fighting for

CHORUS 2
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Yes, some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost
And those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

[LSK]

50. I HATE THAT SOB WORLEY

Thats one of the songs that made me start to hate Country songs. The kicker was some post about a Country concert for Hannity.

I used to love country, but havnt listend to it in months.

[FreedomAngel82]

95. This line is the most hilarious

<They took all the footage off my T.V.> LOL! Where was he at? All they did was play footage of the towers falling! What a moron.

[OrlandoGator]

48. I wish Johnny Cash were still alive to slap the taste out of his mouth.

Would be nice to see. Fucking wannabe.

[William Bloode]

108. Toby and Johnny....

Were actually good friends.

[lectrobyte]

51. A man had to answer For the wicked thing he done

cut the guy some slack, he's writing about Karl Rove here. Sure. That's it.

[beam me up scottie]

61. *snort*

:rofl:

[Modem Butterfly]

54. I have a song for Toby about what happens the NEXT day

Southern trees bear strange fruit,
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.


Pastoral scene of the gallant south,
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth,
Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh,
Then the sudden smell of burning flesh.


Here is fruit for the crows to pluck,
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck,
For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop,
Here is a strange and bitter crop

[beam me up scottie]

57. Thank you, MB. I'm glad most of us aren't defending lynching

or vigilantism.

[me b zola]

90. LOL. I posted upthread about BH's Strange Fruit

:toast:

[jhawk_tim]

59. I respectfully disagree

This is not a pro-war song. It is an anti-crime song. It doesn't mention the war, it talks about cleaning up crime in the streets. That said, the debate can be had as to the merits of Mr. Kieth's proposed method of providing a crime deterrent. It is not, however, a song about the Iraq war or any other war.

[Kraklen]

73. It's a racist song.

It talks about cleaning black people off the streets.

[jhawk_tim]

74. ??

Where in the world does it refer to black people?

[Maru Kitteh]

83. Just who exactly do you think the white rednecks he's singing to

think of when they hear the word "gangsters"? Who's spent more time swinging from trees in his grandpappy's "good old days"?

Obtuse much?

[Xithras]

89. Historically, the majority of lynched people in the US were white

From the mid 1700's through the mid 1900's, more than 20,000 people were lynched in the United States. Most of them were criminals who had the misfortune of committing their crimes in frontier areas with little, or sporadic, law enforcement. These people were lynched for commiting crimes ranging from stealing horses and cattle, to "offending the sendibilities of a lady", to rape and murder. For a long time in this country, outside of the eastern cities, a "trial" often consisted of little more than your peers opinion, and your punishment was often meted out with a short rope and tall tree.

Lynchings as punishment largely died out by the early 1900's as law enforcement and courts became more firmly established in the remoter areas of the country. There were still a few infamous criminals who were dragged out and lynched by angry mobs, but it wasn't nearly as common as in previous generations.

Unfortunatly, just as lynchings for "justice" began dying out, terror lynchings began by the KKK against blacks in the south. Depending on the estimate, between 3,500 and 5,000 african-americans were lynched between 1880 and 1965.

Why do I point this out? Because reading those lyrics, I honestly think he was referring to the FIRST type of lynchings (so called "justice" lynchings), and not the second. The song is about getting rid of criminals and getting horses drunk...I don't see the racism.

[Blue-Jay]

62. Yee-fuckin'-Haw!

[Wind Dancer]

64. "Deja Vu (All Over Again)"

John Fogerty's latest song has been given no airtime, go figure.

DEJA VU (ALL OVER AGAIN)

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you try to read the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

Day by day I hear the voices rising
Started with a whisper like it did before
Day by day we count the dead and dying
Ship the bodies home while the networks all keep score

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Could your eyes believe the writing on the wall
Did that voice inside you say I've heard it all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again

One by one I see the old ghosts rising
Stumblin' 'cross Big Muddy
Where the light gets dim
Day after day another Momma's crying
She's lost her precious child
To a war that has no end

Did you hear 'em talkin' 'bout it on the radio
Did you stop to read the writing at The Wall
Did that voice inside you say
I've seen this all before
It's like Deja Vu all over again
It's like Deja Vu all over again

John Fogerty
©2004 Cody River Music / ASCAP

[Sequoia]

67. Oh, we do know the color of men they were hanging.

Racist no-brain drunk.

[winston61]

72. keith is an asshole

He's the worst, but some other 'country singers' don't mind standing on the backs of dead soldiers and exploiting tragedy to make a buck. All his money is covered with blood of dead Americans and I hope he fucking chokes!

[LWolf]

75. He needs a 12-step program

to help him deal with his alcohol, violence, and equine abuse issues.

[gollygee]

76. A pro-lynching song. Yes, that is civilized.

:sarcasm:

[Maru Kitteh]

77. sounds like a pro-lynching song to me

love those republican family values. I don't really care if that fat bastard calls himself a Democrat, he's the same kind of Democrat as Zell Miller. Racist DINO.

[Clark2008]

78. Aw, come on. He's just repressing the fact that he's gay!

I mean, honestly, look at the man:



(And this is NOT a bash of gays, but a bash at Toby Keith, who looks like he's been hiding in the closet for a bit too long and is starting to see shit in the dark).

[Chicago Democrat]

81. Racist advocates lynching and war and SUCKS!

FU toady

[DanCa]

85. Has this drunk ever served ?

Or is he another Ted Nuggent poser?

[autorank]

88. What the heck is wrong with this guy?

I remember when truckers were some sort of presumed font of wisdom. Well, they're just truckers we found out. Now it's country music guys.

Here's my favorite line:

"And we'll raise up our glasses
Against evil forces"

Ok, let me make sure I understand this. You fight "evil" by drinking. This is a new version of social action that seems to justify the preferred activity of TK's fans. You'd have to be drunk to like this stuff.

[friesianrider]

91. Why the fudge doesn't his chickenhawk pansy ass enlist then

If he loves this war so goddamned much and it's so "worth it" he needs to enlist and fight for his country...or he can STFU.

Chickenhawk pansy.

[DanCa]

92. To parapharase a real country singer you can take this song and shove it

[Name removed]

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[MrSlayer]

98. Sounds more pro-Death Penalty and pro-Animal abuse to me.

Whatever this fool means, this is some of the worst drek I've ever seen written.

[AX10]

99. I see "Klansman Keith" makes another appearance.

I hate KKKountry "Music" and Nascar too. They are all a bunch of right wing FReeperFacsists.

[bertha katzenengel]

101. That's pro-war? I must be interpreting it differently.

Just sounds to me like someone's grandpa's nostalgia for a time when instant "justice" was meted out to criminals in the old west. :shrug:

And it's a stretch to call it "pro-alcoholism," in any era.

Edit: some songs just tell stories. It doesn't have to be propaganda.

[Paladin]

102. No Surprise That A No-Talent, Right- Wing Shitbird Like Keith.......

...would put out a trashy, vigilante-worshipping song like this. I'm really disappointed that Willy Nelson joined him in it, however; I thought Willy knew better, and I sure as hell don't think Willy needed the money.....

[Libby2]

103. Keith is a redneck pig n/t

n/t

[im10ashus]

104. Jesus H. Christ!

"Take all the rope in Texas
Find a tall oak tree
Round up all of them bad boys
And hang 'em high in the street
For all the people to see"

Visions of lynchings in these lyrics.

[Parche]

105. country is NOT music

Country music and Rap = Crap


You can change the dial on a country music station, come back for
a different song, and say....didnt I just hear that?
They all sound the same, almost every single one of them

And Toby Keith is a jerk

[tomg]

106. In addition to its admittedly inane politics

(whatever they might exactly be, and a true academician I can see how all of these various interpretations are legitimate), the song itself is a string of worn out, mawkisly sentimental, psuedo-nostalgic, testosterone-addled cliches. While I am not an avid country fan ( and really hate commercial country), there is a lot of great country out there ( right now I'm listening to Nanci Griffith).

[Fescue4u]

107. Things must really be improving in America

Because now we have time to wring our hands over the lyrics over 3 year old, campy country songs.

Call your congressman! Stop this outrage!

[raysr]

109. KC_25=Freeper

[hopein08]

110. One of the most disappointing things Willie Nelson ever did...

was to join up on this song. He's a Democrat. But then again, didn't I read that Toby Keith calls himself a "conservative Democrat"? That's an oxymoron and Toby Keith is a moron, or "moran" in the preferred dictionary of right wing wackos everywhere.

But thanks, mopaul, for posting all the lyrics. I never listen to country but my sister has told me this was a dumb song and my dad is a big Toby Keith fan but all I ever heard was the admittedly catchy chorus. It really is awful.