Conservatives view liberals the way Xians view the devil

[Modem Butterfly]

The devil is 100% evil and 100% wrong by definition. And according to the conservatives, so are we. The devil is incapable of doing anything good or positive, and anything the devil does that appears good or positive must be, by definition, evil. The devil must be fought constantly, no matter what because, well, he's the devil, so it's okay to create all kinds of wild stories about him since the whole point is to stop him in his tracks.

Discuss.

[whistle]

1. The dehumanization of liberals, a fascist tactic

[formerrepuke]

2. I think there are quite who have narrowed it down to: Liberals=Satan

It's easier to remember that way.. no pesky logic getting in the way.

[DaveJ]

11. It's related the 'original sin' idea

A RW'er once mentioned that cons believe people are inherently evil and need to be improved and kept under control, basically, whereas libs think people are inherently good and that causes all kind of problems.

Since libs don't believe that people are evil, we must not believe in orginal sin and therefore we must be satanic pagans.

We need to understand their superstitions to make any progress in this regard.

[FreedomAngel82]

20. What you're talking about

I think is we're called being empathetic. We feel for other people. Whereas they only care about themselves and making people like them instead of letting people live their own lives and leaving them a lone.

[DaveJ]

31. To get inside their head

We have to understand their superstitions. They feel they must believe people are born with original sin, otherwise they aren't being Christian. They are not compelled to be empathic with sinners, and that includes each other, and everyone else. What they think makes libs evil is that we think people are good, and for some reason, they believe it is evil to think people are inherently good. That's what their superstitions tell them they must believe.

[Syncronaut Seven]

3. And that's the way we allowed them to frame it

I just don't understand the concept of blind faith, seems like a system ripe for abuse.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. I wonder if they've ever

talked to a liberal before. I go on this Christian board and have talked one-on-one to people and by the end we agreed a bit more then we disagreed where it concerns the main issues like the economy and health care and public education. Issues that matter.

[flakey_foont]

4. A meme certtainly being constantly pushed

by the Right Wing Noise Machine....
too bad that type of thinking didn't die when it should have, with the dawn of the Age of Reason,,,;

[tmorelli415]

5. You can't argue with irrational people

I usually just try to hide my horns and tuck my little tail in, then I refer to source material that they are unlikely to question:

"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but underneath are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you shall know them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?"

Matt 7:15-16


Sound like anyone you know?

[DaveJ]

6. For the record, that's not true

In fact it's the opposite. Yesterday I made a foray to a RW site because I felt like arguing. In my conversation one guy said he'd just assume we bomb the entire Sunni triangle. Several pointed to justification for why it was okay that the Brazilian in London was killed. My entire time was consumed just trying to find anyone who could express concern for any human life, like the thousands of children killed in Iraq. I'm not exagerating... I found not one response that indicated any compassion whatsoever.

[YOY]

7. Compassion is an emotion for the evolved

[DaveJ]

12. When it comes to the site I was on...

They're divided into 3 categories, trailor trash, assholes, an wackos. Plus the occasional lost Democrat wasting his time thinking he can make a difference.

[YOY]

17. Be happy.

I was on a board recently and the local freeptard coalition had taken a position of using faulty facts and blaring insults to insure their dominance.

This was supposed to be a non-politically affiliated place, but the two or three loudmouth morons scared everybody else away who had a lick of sense. Sad due to the international traffic of the board being very high...they made Americans look horrible.

Naturally, before I left I wheedled out that everyone of them had neither an education nor any experience of any significant level. One was a 16 year old kid. One was a HARD-CORE Southern Bible beater.

The loudest mouthed one cleaned the floors at a local liquor store in his redder-than-red state by all available accounts. Just pathetic.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. It's disgusting

Freepers think like that. On the board I go on there are people who are against the Iraq ordeal and even say it's against the Bible. So I think only freeper-like thinking people are the one's who are like this. The people who aren't brainwashed and all that I usually get a long with pretty well and can talk to without getting a headache. At my church the kids my age are all pro-Bush except my brother and I. I've never talked to any of them though about issues. :shrug: But they're generally very educated college people who are probably democrats and don't know it. I used to want to be a republican when I was younger but the party has changed a lot and my views have as well. I think if some of them actually took the time to learn about liberals and democrats they might find out they're one like I did.

[Eric J in MN]

36. What isn't true, exactly?

nt

[melissinha]

8. Why can't the rest see ?

Neo-Cons and the Christo-Fascist Zombie brigade hate all liburuls..

WE Progressives hate the leaders and are constantly trying to fight the leaders ON BEHALF of the people who are being used...

Can't see why people follow this ideology of hate....

[SnowGoose]

9. The same way the Pharisees viewed the first christians.

Ironic, isn't it?

[FreedomAngel82]

27. It is

If you read about all that in the Bible the similarites are amazing. They are even like the Pharisees and don't even realize it. Not all of them probably but the pro-Bush gung ho freeperish type.

[DFWdem]

10. The inverse is also often true

Many liberals view conservatives the way christians view the devil, 100% wrong and 100% evil by definition. I would say neither side is correct in its characterization of the other, although I'm sure there are people who fit the description in both camps.

[DaveJ]

13. Yes the country is quite divided n/t

[Ravenseye]

14. For some, sure

I don't think most look at it that way. I'd say probably the most prevalent view of liberals by Conservatives is that liberals are ignorant. They feel we're ignorant on issues, and how the world works. Some may think we're evil, but for the most part they make themselves feel good about themselves by pitying us, when really they should look in the mirror.

[DaveJ]

16. They think anyone with empathy and compassion is naive...

According to them helping people in need is the stupidest most unproductive thing to do in the world. Then they use the gotta teach them to fish analogy. In reality they don't even care enough to teach them to fish.

[Ravenseye]

21. It's their key problem

The conservative key problem isn't that they hate women or gays or black people or the environment, or anything like that.

The key problem of the conservative is that they are naive as to the nature of the human animal.

You can see this in their views of privitization. Why pay money for a public park from taxes? Lower taxes, and let people pay for the park themselves and it'll be better!

Wrong. Lower taxes, and the people will spend the money without even noticing it, and we'll have no public parks, and quality of life will go down.

Liberals understand the need for everyone to throw money in a pot to get things done...Conservatives naively believe that if we let people have more money they'll do the right thing.

Naive.

[meow2u3]

39. The real problem with conservatives

Deep down inside, they hate their (often abusive) parents, and are too bound by excessively strict rules to admit it. So they either turn their hatred for parents into self-hatred or project their parricidal hatred onto what they see as safe targets: women, ethnic minorities, gays (if they're closet cases), or liberals, who expose them as the would-be parricides they are.

[DaveJ]

23. Ignorance and evil are hand inhand according to them

They think we are ignorant pagans who don't believe in God, and therefore evil.

Funny thing is they are latching to 19th century concepts applied to native Americans. There's no relevance in modern life.

[FreedomAngel82]

28. Oh yes

I've had someone tell me over and over that I'm ignorant on issues. Such as the Wilson/Plame case and then the founding fathers being Christians and our country founded on Biblical terms. :eyes:

[wli]

15. and they are hellbent on exterminating us

We will be the target of their Holocaust.

This is no longer the Age of Reason. This is the new Dark Age.

[DaveJ]

18. I think we are evolving into separate species (seriously) n/t

[Democracy White]

24. I believe that myself

You should look up some of the Coptic fellowships doctrines on the birthing of the 6th root race as well as the things on the Age of Aquarius (which we are in right now according to proponents of the sidereal zodiac astrology)
Though I don't believe that we are turning into another species, I believe that liberals, and anyone else that has compassion and caring towards their fellow human neighbors and animals are indeed evolving towards a higher spiritual level (if not already. I feel that those who are on a lower level than us (re: the fundie neocons) are subconsciously aware of this and that they fear this change so they are using whatever they have in their power to keep things the way they are.
I do believe that we are going to go through quite a struggle but that we should come out of it alright.

Dee

[FreedomAngel82]

29. I think so too

Sometimes if you sit you can feel changes happening. Some people will probably change and not even know it and some people are realizing changes if you can feel things. I can tell from reading my own journals that I have changed a lot. My priorities have changed and things like that. Of course this could all be apart of just growing up since I'm only twenty-three. But I do believe the earth is changing as well spiritually.

[Democracy White]

30. All you have to do is take a look at the world

around you and the events that are happening. I'm not psychic but I do believe that this century, the 21st century is going to be rough, filled with rife and there is going to be upheavels, both spirtually and physically. I do believe that Earth is going through It's changes as wel. the tsunami was one of them, powerful enough to knock Earth out of It's axis and thus begin a polar tilt which happens every 2,000 years I believe. The other natural phenomenon is part of it as well. The increase in hurricanes, earthquakes, volcanic eruptions etc. are just signals that we are going to another step.
Sylvia Brown predicts that the world will end at the end of this century and she could have well meant that we are moving beyond our "primitive, animalistic phases" and into what we really are and have been.
I don't know if the Earth is changing because of our abuses to it but if that is the case, we need to stop it. Atlantis destroyed itself that way and if this is the case we're going to do exactly what our Atlantean forebears did so many years ago.

Either way, I feel we are going through an evolutionary process and the world that we know of is going to end and new one will begin.

Dee

[DaveJ]

32. Personally, I think...

I think something is going to happen soon but in my opinion it will be related to a technological breakthrough related either to virtual reality and/or artificial intelligence.

But it's still fun to think cons and libs are envolving into difference species.

I really do not like knowing I'm a member of the same species as them.

[wli]

35. not convinced on the technology front

I don't see much happening besides peak oil (goodbye shipping and transportation), climatological disaster, mass extinction, and the like.

[Democracy White]

37. Do you think we will have some kind of powers

like telepathy or telekinesis. ESP?

I think something like it will happen though it won't be as superheroish like in the comic books

Dee

[FreedomAngel82]

19. It's called being ignorant

[zbdent]

26. Conservatives reap the benefits of the work that liberals and progressives

achieve (sometimes at great cost) . . .

Makes me think that the conservatives are the ones who would have said "Get a horse!"

[Al-CIAda]

33. "Create broad generalizations and black/white situations to illicit

Pavlovian response."

[DaveJ]

34. But who's the subject of Pavlovian conditioning more?

Us or them? Hmm.

[Piperay]

38. Sad and ignorant... they want to eradicate us

from the face of the Earth but they don't think ahead cause then who are they going to blame for everything. I guess it will be their responsibility than and they will have to for once take the blame.