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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:29 PM
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Was it proven Saddam had NOTHING AT ALL to do with 9/11?
Directly or otherwise?

I'm discussing the 'need' to go into Iraq and many believe Saddam was still tied to 9/11...

Thanks!
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:31 PM
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1. not...
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:31 PM
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2. That's asking to prove a 'negative', it's a logical fallacy. BUT
there has been no evidence I'm aware of that there WAS any connection. Bush said as much on national television...(but then he's a liar, so.......?)

:eyes:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:31 PM
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3. You can't prove a negative
Nevertheless everything that has been said about it has turned out to be a barefaced lie.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:32 PM
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4. will an article from BBC on Bush's remarks to that point work?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:08 PM
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20. Aesome - thanks MUCH!
:thumbsup: :hug:
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:32 PM
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5. It was stipulated so by * himself when directly asked
a couple years ago, if I remember correctly. Though he continues to imply a connection in speeches.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:32 PM
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6. It's irrelevant
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 05:35 PM by BlueEyedSon
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nickgutierrez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:34 PM
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7. You can't "prove" a negative...
...but you can say that there is no credible evidence upon which this claim can be made and be absolutely right.

In cases like this, theoretically, the burden of proof is on the administration. However, it's up to the media to make them prove it, and this was a major failure in the run-up to war.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:37 PM
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8. Are you sh*ttin' me? Why are you posting this question?
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 05:38 PM by Just Me
Incredible!!!!
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:07 PM
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18. Because I'd rather converse with a person saying more than hearsay.
I thought I said in my initial post why I was asking for more info.

The BBC link was a very good one...

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:56 PM
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24. If you're trying to prove it
to a Bush loyalist don't use BBC. I've tried that before and they were called "anti-American". :eyes: Even though Britian is our ally supposivley. Oy.
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:39 PM
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9. Yes,the only one that doesn't know is Chaney.n/t
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:42 PM
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10. Was it proven he was?
No, hardly.

Though, an interesting thought. If given one is of the theory of MIHOP or LIHOP, is there a chance that pro-American corporatist in the Iraqi Admin. knew about 9-11 and tried to setup a connection? Hummm...this might be worth investigating. Has any high profile Iraqi from the old Saddam era profited greatly, either monetarily or politically since the US took over? Or did they just screw up the job of trying to establish a connection?
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adarling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:43 PM
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11. maybe the 9/11 commission
has some answers for you. I think he was found not to have ANY connections to 9/11. This coming from the Warren type commission with their ideas of what happened on 9/11.....seems strange to me still
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Ignoramus Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:43 PM
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12. from peanut gallery: you can make a proof of a negative
For example:

False: There are no chairs in this room
Proof: point to chair

I'm sure there is some standard way to the refer to the type of negative that a proof can't be made of. "Universal" negative?

Also, you can't prove anything. You can make a proof though.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:56 PM
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15. A mini-tutorial ...
... All propositions must be stated in the affirmative. The failure to prove the affirmative leads to the rejection of the proposition. This is basic to both debate and the scientific method.

When the 'proof' offered by proponents is demonstrated falsehoods (i.e. the 'chair' is actually a bed), it's called FRAUD.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:51 PM
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13. He was in one of the planes
you know, the one with the "missile pod", except it wasn't a missile -it was an escape pod.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 05:54 PM
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14. Was it proven that Shrub had nothing to do with perpetrating 9/11 ?

Same question.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:02 PM
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16. We live in a nation full of stupid people
:shrug:

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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:04 PM
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17. You Are Joking Right Now, right? (nt)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:08 PM
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19. I should have rephrased;
asking for information regarding it. MANY people think Saddam was linked to 9/11.

I know that but when it comes to debating, I'm completely crap at it.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:27 PM
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22. Right On...
I assumed you knew already, since I've seen you around here often enough.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:11 PM
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21. If you knew anything about Saddam and BinLaden
you'd know they were enemies. BinLaden HATED Saddam because he had power in a country and BinLaden wanted that. That's the proof right there. Of course only a history buff would probably know that. But I'd make them prove it to you.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 06:37 PM
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23. Sadaam has been exonerated in that atrocity, but GWB has not.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 08:02 PM
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25. "THEY changed everything on 9/11"
Just thought that up and had to post it (was just thinking about the talking point "everything changed on 9/11").
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