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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:21 AM
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In view of the Democratic Party's failure to stand up for our values,
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/29/AR2005072901894.html

what are our choices? Do we need a new party to represent us?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:25 AM
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1. Perhaps something like the Socialist Workers Party in the UK
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:30 AM
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2. Yes. I think the Greens can become a realistic alternative.
I'll be casting my first Green vote for senator in 2006 despite having a "moderate" Dem senator. My vote for Rep (also a Dem) is still up on the air depending on his future votes.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:45 PM
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13. Don't jump all over me, but I really wish they would consider
changing the name of the Green Party - it just sounds too unpolitical for me and I really would vote for a Green candidate, but see that even sounds silly.
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 07:45 AM
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3. Traitors every single one of them.
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Proletariatprincess Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:33 AM
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4. there is a Labor Party in this country
It is in embryonic stage, has never fielded a candidate, and has been opposed by the establishment Labor leaders who support the Dems exclusively, but now with the spit off of the SEIU, Teamsters, UNITE, HERE, and etc., we may see more about the Labor Party as we seek to find alternatives to the disastrous decline of the value of work in this country.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:38 AM
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6. Got a link?
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 09:54 AM by screembloodymurder
Sounds like something I could support. I respect hard work. That respect comes from actually having done hard work. Unlike a lot of our millionaire representatives, I earned my money the hard way.

Found it.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:00 AM
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5. I'm starting to look at the Greens........
Edited on Sat Jul-30-05 09:02 AM by converted_democrat
I left the Repub party just short of a year ago. I actually started paying attention to what the party was doing and I didn't like the idea of being sold out constantly to big business.(I also think we are all equal, and Pubs still are slow in that arena) So, I went down and registered as Dem, because I thought they better represented my views. I like for what the Dems stand for, but I don't think the majority of Dem politicians actually stand for what their party does. I am beginning to think that both sides infiltrated with corporate whores, I mean is there any other way to explain it? I think the Dems values are great, but I don't think that there is anyone out there truly representing us, or our beliefs. If the Dem's continue to vote for legislation that will hurt American families I will leave and go third party. I would love to see the Dem party become the true party of the people, but right now I'm less than impressed. I had really pinned alot of hope on the Dems when I joined, and here recently I've been really disappointed.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 09:48 AM
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7. I agree, the old Democratic Party brought us
programs such as the Rural Electrification Act, The Unemployment Compensation Act, Medicare, Social Security, and the Federal Home Loan Program. They integrated the Armed Services and advanced civil rights and women's suffrage. The Dems established workers' right to organize. They initiated legislation for environmental protection, progressive taxation, and the First and Fourth Amendments. The Democratic Party was the people's party.

What the hell has happened!
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:10 AM
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8. Nadar says they've been bought out by corporate America. Another
suggestion is they know the economy is going down and peak oil is on the horizon and they don't have the guts to tell the public.

When I tell people what's going on, they either walk away or think I'm insane. And to listen to myself, I would think I'm insane too. I think it was all those decades of reading and watching science fiction books and movies that opened by brain to the fact the government may not be in the publics' best interst. And of course - 20 years of Vietnam.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:36 PM
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10. tell us what's going on
We'll probably not scoff at it so much.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 10:36 AM
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9. SOL. Democracy is dead and we are truly screwed by Corporate America
RFKjr said it correctly when he stated the repukes are 95% controlled and dems are 75% controlled by Corporate America. While Corporate America may try to be subtle with a soft glove most of the time, when push comes to shove they get exactly what they want by pushing the buttons of leadership in both parties. We are sold out and any new party will flounder without any access to corporate media and not enough money, organization or star power (we are a celebrity intoxicated society see the Hillary phenomenon for proof). So the chances of an effective new party rival that of a snowball in hell.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:41 PM
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12. I am beginning to believe just that..........n/t
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:38 PM
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11. a political party is doomed by monetary issues
Massive unionization seems more plausible, i.e. collective bargaining union-style against federal and state governments.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 12:51 PM
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14. How about starting our own faction of the democratic party?
I dont mean by adding another nebulous term like "progressive" or "moderate" but an organization with a clear set of documented principles.

We would still be part of the party but would be better able to reform it which would be cheaper and less time consuming than starting a party that noone has ever heard of.Just a thought.

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