CIA Analyst on Cheney Nuke Plan for IRAN

[BeHereNow]

This came up on another thread in LBN regarding
the recent request by Uzbekistan fro the US to
leave. I found several links on various sites
about this article published originally in the
America Conservative- I think it needs to
be spread far and wide. What Giraldi is
reporting is straight from the PNAC agenda and
should scare the hell out of every thinking person.

Apparently Philip Giraldi, a CIA analyst and leaker on
the madness of the Bush/Cheney dynasty,
recently published a piece in the American Conservative
about Cheney's plan- while the American Conservative
copy is not available online, excerpts from it are appearing
all over the net now-
Here is one such, from Antiwar.com-

"One can only wonder, then, what
their reaction will be to this ominous news, revealed in
a recent issue of The American Conservative by
intelligence analyst Philip Giraldi:

"The Pentagon, acting under instructions from
Vice President Dick Cheney's office, has
tasked the United States Strategic Command
(STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to
be employed in response to another 9/11-type
terrorist attack on the United States. The plan
includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing
both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons.
Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic
targets, including numerous suspected
nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many
of the targets are hardened or are deep
underground and could not be taken out by
conventional weapons,hence the nuclear option.
As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional
on Iran actually being involved in the act of
terrorism directed against the United States. Several
senior Air Force officers involved in the planning
are reportedly appalled at the implications of what
they are doing – that Iran is being set up for an
unprovoked nuclear attack – but no one is
prepared to damage his career by posing any
objections.' "


Did you get THIS part? Un-friggin believable!!!

"As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional
on Iran actually being involved in the act of
terrorism directed against the United States."
Link:
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=6734

BHN

[Rick Myers]

1. While I hate Cheney, I just read much the same on another site

and it was attributed to a Lyndon LaRouche site.

[BeHereNow]

3. The original article appeared in the AC, not LaRouche

The LaRouche web site has simply done what
hundreds of other are currently doing-
copied the text from the American Conservative
hard copy.
Do a search on Giraldi and the topic
Cheney, Iran, and you will find the same
text appearing all over the net.

I have no reason to believe that the American Conservative
would publish a false statement by Giraldi.

BHN

[Rick Myers]

11. I can believe ANYthing about Cheney, he is a GHOUL!

There are ALOT of creepy signs that something is afoot...

[BeHereNow]

13. Neo-monkey-boy-con off to the Pig farm?

Bolton appointment over 5 week recess?
Hell, the recess alone?
Uzbekistan asks us to "get out?"
Halliburton closing down operations in Iran?
Recent demonizing news reports about Iran barbarianism?
Roberts, the protege of Bork, SCOTUS nominee?

Yes, I agree, creepy scary dots when you start connecting
them all.
Giraldi is not some fly-by-night source by any means.
He is a serious guy and the fact that HE reported
this is a BIG red flag in my frame of reference.

BHN

[me b zola]

32. Add to the dots you have listed

Impending indictments that could seriously damage, if not bring down, bush inc.

[Richard Steele]

2. The B*shCabal will settle for nothing less than Armageddon.

That's their REAL solution to the "Peak Oil" crisis:
KILL 90% of the world's population.

The remaining oil is sufficient for the ELITE
who rule over the surviving 10%
to live in style for centuries.

[Why Syzygy]

5. on a partial planet?

It won't even be a rock by the time they accomplish that deed. A pebble. Oh yeah.

This hasn't been thought through any more than any of their other misdeeds.

[Just Me]

16. Humanity will survive "oil". These bastards are simply maximizing,...

,...their profit from "oil".

That's what pisses me off the most: "oil" being treated like the beginning and end of humanity!!!!

BULL!!! Humanity advanced before "oil" and will advance after "oil".

This "trend" is merely another human evil of exploitation. It's disgusting!!!!

No wonder Gandhi viewed the west as something other than civilized.

[DoYouEverWonder]

23. All we have to do

is legalize industrial hemp and half our problems would be solved.

Legalize marijuana and I bet you can solve the other half too.

[Why Syzygy]

73. oh but!

then who has control?

In the case of no limited reserves, there are NO LIMITED RESERVES!

Power man. The name of the disasterous game.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power the world will know peace."
Jimi Hendrix 1942-1970

[wli]

21. Global Cleansing 2000?

I couldn't find a reliable source for that. OTOH it doesn't seem to be anything remarkable for these psychopaths.

[Imagevision]

61. Do you ever wonder about some news stories that come out of this

administration? -- wmd's for openers??

[Why Syzygy]

4. That's their freaking MO buddy!

There need not be ANY implications of guilt or responsibility to warrant the :nuke: component of the criminals! Ghastly? Yes indeed.

We should be used to this demonic behavior by now. I'm not and refuse to get used to it.

Geeziz jiminie. This is like a freakin INVITATION to Ir*an et al to preemptive strike our land, is it not?
What if Ir*an turns over all oil reserves and contracts to do so for the rest of their existence? And turn over their treasury. Would that suffice? Would that satisfy the conditions to not get nuked into radioactive debris?

Is oil that's been nuked useable anyway?

It is just too damn much to think about. No wonder the average American bear cannot push their thought processes into functionality.

[jmatthan]

6. When will you remove your fascist Government?

Your election process is DEAD!!

So how are you Americans going to get rid of your fascist Government?

Americans are losing your rights one by one - and with the renewal of the Patriot Act, even the right to protest has vanished - or rather, put to Zones where no one can HEAR you.

When will Americans realise they have been DONE in properly?

John Roberts, John Bolton, John Negroponte - you are all in the John!!

Jacob Matthan
http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
Oulu, Finland

[BeHereNow]

8. Yes Jacob- THAT is the question on all our lips!

HOW do we stop the madmen.
Our representatives do NOT represent us.
We have no voice what so ever.

I do not believe for one minute that even the
most staunch Bushbot would supposrt a pre-emptive
strike on Iran, especially if it involved nuclear weaponry.

The neocons know this- they know they have
to cast the possibility of "blame" on Iran for something
terrible happening here at home.

Now I have have no idea if these people would
actually stage and "event" of 9-11 magnitude, however
I would not put it past them to know something is
coming that they can not prevent due to the fact
that they don't have specifics and thus are in the
process of planning to use an event to justify
the Iran attack.
The latter would be my guess.
How do we stop them?
I really don't know.

BHN

[jmatthan]

17. How did the Ukrainians, Georgians, Lebanese,

get rid of their unelected leaders.

Americans - 50% of you, have to learn how to grow up politically.

The "I'm alright Jack" syndrome has to vanish.

If not, be prepared to be taken to Guantanamo Death Camps, as your turn will also surely come.

Jacob Matthan
http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
Oulu, Finland

[BeHereNow]

19. Grow up indeed- Politics is deadly serious

More so now than ever.
The problem is, there are VERY few people in this
country who understand what the REAL issues are.
They think the topical issues that are allowed for
discussion are what is being discussed by the
people running the show- the people running the
show could give a crap about those issues, but have
deftly understood their usefulness in diverting and
dividing the masses.
People think the Roberts nomination is about
whether Roe VS Wade will be overturned- THAT
is NOT the issue, the issue is FAR more serious-
the issue is the ideology of the judicial system that
Roberts represents. The Patriot Act crowd, the
Carl Schmitt and Leo Strauss approach to law.
And that ideology is the one that you are referring to
when you say our turn will come to disappear to
Gitmo or one of the hundreds of other undisclosed
US led prisons globally.
I hear you Jacob.
Can I come stay on your couch now?
I am truly frightened by what is happening
and I don't see the moment when Americans
are suddenly going to "grow-up" as you say
coming anytime soon, which means the other
will procede unimpeded.
I fear it is most certainly already too late.
BHN

[jmatthan]

67. You are welcome

eom

[WhiteTara]

71. great! I'm coming too! eom

[jmatthan]

72. We will soon have a Government in exile here!!

eom

[SammyWinstonJack]

88. I hope you have a really big couch!

:hi:

[Why Syzygy]

75. There's a big

walmart and american idol fixation here. T.V. and shopping. Puts the majority to sleep.

Tell me more about growing up politically. Sounds good to me.

Thanks for your posts/insights here in our bleak existence. We need help. S.O.S.

[shadowknows69]

28. I think you underestimate the madness of the sheeple

they'll accept the world itself ending if it to protect our democracy and way of life. They'll realize too late that being dead ruins your way of life a lot worse.

[Why Syzygy]

76. Listen to the link ..

..."when we're pushing up daisies
we all look the same"...

[Sterling]

85. "o protect our democracy and way of life"

No one protected our Democracy, it's dead. The Dems sure as hell did not defend it. As for defending American idol "our way of life" well maybe but how hoard do you think people will really fight for that when things get tough?

[kohodog]

29. Mass action

1). 9/11 magnitude was fairly small compared to what potentially could happen.

2). I think we are fast approaching the time of some sort of major mass action. Perhaps a general strike or something like that where people of conscious can act together in the course of their daily activities to create enough of a ruckus to create change. The politicians, even the so called Dem's (with a few exceptions) are not listening. Most of America is asleep, but I have been trying to think of an action that will:

1. Wake people up
2. Wake the politicians up
3. Shift awareness and momentum to we the people
4. Stop the BFEE neocon agenda in its tracks

Bush, Cheney and gang is acting like a dictatorship with no regard for the constitution. A recess appointment of Bolton will only serve to illustrate their hubris. Seriously, we're past the point of marches on Washington, and I think it is time for a creative action that can attract some of the moderates among us as well as the disaffected apolitical people. Any ideas for a theme or action that might be workable on a mass level?

[wli]

63. mass unionization?

Well, if they're going to go far beyond the bounds of government power, the retaliation needs to be breaking out of Taft-Hartley. They can't quite outsource everything, though it's relatively clear they don't really need us. All it takes is enough illegal immigrants fighting for promises of citizenship...

[jmatthan]

68. What was the reason for 210705 bomb scare?

More at

http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com

Sincere people now hate the war-mongers Bush and Blair with all their hearts. I heard it during the testimony at the World Tribunal on Iraq held in Turkey. This was not even mntioned in passing by the US media.

You have been blacked out as far as "truth" is concerned. And the newly renewed "Patriot Act" has removed most of your Constitutional rights - and still the Americans do NOTHING.

Things will only happen in the US when "your" loved one is picked up, incarcerated and tortured - and then it will be too late.

'First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said nothing.
Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social Democrat, so I did nothing.
Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a trade unionist.
And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I did little.
Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up for me.'
Pastor Martin Niemöller

Jacob Matthan
Oulu, Finland

[Why Syzygy]

77. I'm paying attention n/t

[Why Syzygy]

74. well ..

it feels good to think that the global community might pitch in to help us flush the John.

We are open to suggestions. What do you suggest?

[kohodog]

86. Wow, November2, 2005. Not in our name!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4206696&mesg_id=4206696

Just found this thread regarding a mass action on November 2. Sounds exactly like what I was trying to advocate. Please check it out and make it happen. It will only work if enough people are involved to impact US life.

[Why Syzygy]

92. thanks

added to sig line.

[Just Me]

7. They're too damn busy squeezing out imperfect progressives,...

,...tossing people away, to actually pay attention to those who exploit all of us.

I wouldn't bother to post here except that you are bringing attention to the real enemy to the front page of a forum that is supposed to SUPPORT those who fight that enemy.

[BeHereNow]

9. I don't not think the CIA is particularly happy these days-

You are correct, the really disturbing aspect is the fact
that those who historically have backed the foreign policy
and military actions of our government are sounding
the four-star alarm publicly on the neo-cons.
That SHOULD rattle every person in this country.
BHN

[Just Me]

10. I am grateful that their focus cannot be distracted by psyop crap.

They are gathering their forces in spite of the successful divisive campaign that is WELL-PAID to invade all forums for freedom and justice.

:grr:

I can say no more.

[BeHereNow]

12. No need- I know

:hug:
BHN

[Name removed]

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[BeHereNow]

15. Welcome to DU xxxx4

Stick around, you'll understand soon enough...
WELCOME!
BHN

[Just Me]

18. My friend, they have been doing so around the world for decades.

:hug: It's a FACT! Moreover, this regime has openly invested billions in an "information control" campaign. Just google. Nowadays, they aren't just attempting to control others,...they are waging a psyop war against their own. They HATE democracy.

[Patty Diana]

20. Russia and China call for closure of US bases in Central Asia

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/jul2005/base-j30.shtml I got this link this morning. Scarey shit coming down. Damn these bastards!! <SNIP> The Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO), a grouping of China, Russia and four Central Asian republics, issued an unprecedented statement at a summit meeting on July 5 in Kazakhstan calling on the United States to set a deadline for the removal of its military bases in Central Asia.

<SNIP> Three days later, the lower house of the Russian parliament ratified a 15-year bilateral agreement between Russia and Kyrgyzstan to double the number of Russian troops at its airbase at Kant, east of Bishkek. Earlier this year, Russia announced plans to deploy more combat aircraft to Kant.

Washington established airbases in Uzbekistan and Kyrgyzstan to support the US invasion of Afghanistan in November 2001. Three-and-a-half years later, the bases are still operational and garrisoned by hundreds of American troops. In Kyrgyzstan, American and Russian aircraft are located within two minutes flying time from one another.

The SCO declaration demonstrates that Russia and China are taking tentative steps to challenge the US military presence in Central Asia.

[BeHereNow]

22. And that is the really scary part

The neocons think China and Russia are
going to stand by while the US deploys
nuclear weaponry against Iran in another
pre-emptive, "We have every reason to believe,
but no actual proof, that Iran was behind the
recent attack on _____________ in the US?"

Good lord.
BHN

[me b zola]

36. Also, are these countries that are affected by Pipelineistan??

I am looking for one of the maps that I have seen showing the PNAC's plan for their pipeline, but I'm not having any luck. Could this also be a strategic move to attempt to disrupt/deny the PNAC of global domination?

[BeHereNow]

37. On THE map- Iran is the pivotal country

as far as the hegemonic aims of the neocon KKKabal
and pipeline plans.
NO way China and Russia are going to stand by
twiddling their thumbs on this one.
BHN

[Just Me]

41. Yep. These reckless corporacultists will forge forward,...

,...in their delusions of global control without acknowledgement of the consequences to their people or nation.

They are the ultimate betrayers and traitors to this country 'cause they use us all as tools toward their personal endeavors. BASTARDS!!! Hitler's notion of ruling the world was a novice compared these assholes.

[Why Syzygy]

78. ya know

. self censorship . dayum

[bloom]

46. And then when you have Iran and Iraq making agreements

to work together that could shut the US out....

And we have the precedent of US leaders intimidating other countries to do "our" bidding or else suffer from "regime change" or invasion...

And when we really don't have the troops to pull it off...

I think it's a very bad thing.

It figures that other countries would gang up against the US and our military. It's like just what Cheney has been asking for.

It does piss me off that he plans on protecting himself in his bunker (downthread). If anyone should pay the price for his own deeds - it would be him.

:nuke:

[BeHereNow]

47. Just one word on your post-

CHINA.
BHN

[bloom]

49. more "highlights"

"...During a visit to China on July 10, US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice maintained that the US would not withdraw from Afghanistan. “It is our understanding that the people of Afghanistan want and need the help of the US armed forces,” she declared at a Beijing press conference. Having established a footprint in Central Asia for the first time in history, US imperialism does not intend to leave.


On July 14, the chairman of US Joint Chiefs of Staff, Richard Myers openly accused China and Russia of “trying to bully” the Central Asian states into calling for the closure of the American bases. Just who is bullying whom, however, was demonstrated this week, when US Secretary of Defence Donald Rumsfeld flew into Kyrgyzstan and rapidly extracted agreements for the continuation of the airbase in the country....


China has growing energy interests in Iran. Last October, China signed a long-term $70 billion agreement with Tehran for a 51 percent stake in Iran’s largest onshore oilfield. At the SCO summit, Iranian vice president, Mohammad Reza Aref, declared his country could become the “bridge” that connected the SCO states to the resources of the Persian Gulf....


Alongside the economic linkage, China and Russia are strengthening their military ties. The two countries are preparing their first joint military excise, to be conducted in China, involving 80,000 troops. Russia intends to send warships, ground forces and long-range bombers. Although both sides have denied that the exercise is aimed at any country, there is little doubt that it is a response to the eruption of US aggression since 2001 and the growing uncertainties in world politics."

[BeHereNow]

52. Well hell...

That adds another entirely dreadful perspective to the whole
mess- does it not?
BHN

[bloom]

53. And we have "Aruba"

or whatever - on the news. :eyes:


There is So much they could be talking about. Even Rovegate pales by comparison.

[BeHereNow]

55. Rovegate is relevant in that...

it would appear, from Giraldi's article, that they fully
intend to use the same stategy to justify a
military attack on Iran- as in, LIE the public into support
for the same.
BHN

[bloom]

56. yeah

I agree it is all a part of their SOP.

But it seems that people can become so focused on past misdeeds - that they aren't thinking about all the crap that is going on now and being planned for the future.

Of course - some of it can only be understood in hindsight.

[BeHereNow]

57. Hindsight..

will be TOO Late in this instance.
BHN

[Why Syzygy]

81. this suspicion has plaged me early on

Rove is too much operative, sneeky pete to allow himself to be judged.

Distraction.

IMO, take him down and the rest with him. But don't take your eye off the ball.

[bobbieinok]

70. religious wrong view: Armaggedon involves Russia and Israel, not sure

about China

I never could quite figure this out........country names in the Bible prophecies are applied to Russia, etc

is this in Revelations or somewhere else??

[Why Syzygy]

82. oh yeah

China is in their little Armageddon plans too. The "north" marching down which out number the stable troops like a 1,000 to one. They have the population, they have the Army.

It's not in Revelations. It's in the imaginary minds of the fundies.

Scenario. This is so much bushshit. I spent considerable time studying the possible relevance of Revelations. I don't buy any of the RW/fundie/dooms-day provocateurs versions. That doesn't mean that others do not and will not push that agenda on the rest of us.

Long story.

[DoYouEverWonder]

24. This gangs motto

is Nuke First, Ask Questions Later.

These madmen must be stopped.

We impeached a man for lying about a private affair. These guys are planning Armageddon and no one can lift a finger to stop them? This is beyond ridiculous. It's time for Fitzgerld to start handing our indictments before it's too late.

[BeHereNow]

31. EVERYONE needs to revisit the PNAC doc

http://www.newamericancentury.org
"Rebuilding America's Defenses."
When you hold this document next to Cheney's
commissioned prospectus about
resources VS demand, it all makes perfect sense, IF you
can put your mind set to theirs.
None of their decisions are about moral correctness-
they are strictly about making "business" decisions.
BHN

[DoYouEverWonder]

33. That's why they feel the need

to build themselves high tech bunkers like the one below.



Site R, a complex of underground government buildings in Raven Rock Mountain near Blue Ridge Summit, Pa., was where Vice President Dick Cheney often stayed after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. (KRT)

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2004/07/20/undisclosed_location_disclosed/

[BeHereNow]

35. as IF Cheney gave a rat's ass about us???

The "bunker" should give everyone a CLUE
about what they expect in the near future.
Too bad the American populace are
incapable of reading the writing on the wall.
WHY do you prepare such a bunker if you
do not fully anticipate the need to utilize it
for survival?
HELLO?
BHN

[shanti]

38. EXACTLY!

this was always in the planning, so the bunkers are necessary. remember all the noise about cheney's home bunker? have you seen anything in the news about its completion? they are building these bunkers for a REASON, which is becoming increasingly clear.

[BeHereNow]

39. I fear that it is true-

Cheney made sure that HE had safe haven
because he fully anticipates nuclear retaliation
against the US for our insane military pre-emptive
plan-
Bottom line?
They are planning military action that they KNOW
fully well will result in military retaliation on a MAJOR scale
of destruction.
BHN

[Why Syzygy]

83. k. then.

he can come above ground in about a billion years. What a nerd.

Who in their right mind (which I'm not saying he/they are) would plan to live underground for the rest of their normal lifespan.

Reptiles? My brain is on overload.

[hootinholler]

58. Look, this thing was built in the 50's

As a bunker to escape from Camp David should an attack occur, and as a bonus, it also is a comms center. Not quite as nefarious as you imply. It's not like they started construction in January 2001.

Yes, it is scary that there are plans that exist to use nukes. There are plans to use nukes against a lot of nations. SOP.

The administration isn't as all powerful as you think. That being said I think they are as crazy as we think. I also think they are less powerful than they believe they are, which is a truly dangerous combination. That's the source of my fears.

-Hoot

[shanti]

87. i beg to differ

cheney's personal bunker (under his house) was in construction in 2001. that gives more credence to my suspicions. they certainly have something up their sleeves, the PNAC is proof of that.

[hootinholler]

89. No need to beg, it's still a kindof free country...

I would be shocked if there wasn't a bunker available to the VP residence prior to 2001, however I have no knowledge of that one. I was referring to site R, which was built in the 50's as an extension to the Ft Ritchie facilities, about the same time as the Greenbriar resort bunker, NORAD's bunker and who knows how many more.

I will disagree that bunkers are evidence of an impending nuke attack, but, that's also speculation on my part. We have enough to fear without speculation presented as evidence. It's fine to speculate, just label it so.

-Hoot

[Just Me]

34. They treat humanity like pieces on a chessboard.

They treat the world like merely a place to play out their games. They have no interest whatsoever in contributing towards a better world. They just want to win,...for themselves. They don't even give a shit about the consequences to their own people. They are freakin' nuts, totally corrupted.

We don't even have to work at humiliating these bastards. They are proving their reckless disregard for honor, the law, our country, our freedom, hope and humanity. In my former life as a Christian, I would definitely call these bums the hands and fingers of the devil.

[H2O Man]

25. Variations of this "plan"

have been known for some time .... actually, since 2000. If anyone has ever wondered if VP Cheney is sane, this should convince them otherwise. More: if anyone has wondered if the BFEE really controls everything, this should convince them that {a} they do not; {b} they recognize that Iran & associated forces are a potentially serious "enemy"; and {c} those who plan such destructive "war options" are animated by the darkest forces in human history.

[Just Me]

30. Exactly!!!! These people are so damn reckless,...

,...being driven by their own delusions of grandeur, that they deny both the consequences of their actions and the small space they occupy among the rest of humanity and the world. They are no different than any tyrant. If they believe that 98% of humanity which occupies other territories will not act to contain them, including those within their own country, they are seriously mistaken.

Hopefully, this time, these sick bastards will be permanently contained.

[MidnightWind]

26. Don't hold your breath waiting for the Mainstream Media to report

this story though. Seriously, do we think that NBC-owned by a defense contractor (GE) is going to report this kind of story? Hell, without sex, or a missing blonde woman, do we think any of them are going to report it? This article makes my blood run cold. But sadly? None of it surprises me, not with the current regieme in power. Every day I pray that the American people will wake up and see what's going in this country but every day, stories like this are ignored and/or go unreported.

[BeHereNow]

27. Welcome to DU MidnightWind

And yes, the blatant media complicity
is the factor that has everyone frustrated
beyond belief.
There can be no informed consent in a democracy without
the media.
I can not believe that anyone in this country would
condone a nuclear pre emptive strike, but how will they
ever know that the possiblilty exists?
BHN

[in_cog_ni_to]

40. Air Force officers are putting their careers before their country???

:wtf: That's just damn SICK! Why? Why? would they do that? Don't they have families here too? Surely the families of all military aren't bunkered? Why would they let Cheney get away with this shit? They know it's wrong. WHY? The wrath of the world will visit our soil if this goes down. :cry:

[halobeam]

42. Damn chilly times.

:cry:

[Just Me]

44. Keep in mind the extreme brainwash set in the military. Don't blame them.

I beg you to place the responsibility of abuse precisely where it belongs: this profiteering, traitorous regime that exploits anyone in its path.

GET the criminal, not the victim. Always remember the criminal!!!!

[hootinholler]

59. We also don't need the voices of reason to commit carreericide!

What would happen if they refused to plan? They would be gone and no longer in a position to refuse an illegal order.

-Hoot

[SammyWinstonJack]

91. That's the part that floored me!

Unbelievable!

[AuntiBush]

43. Not Conditional!?!

I'm so sick of this (fill-in the blanks - I'm out of words that describe) this fricked, stinkin' mob running this country. Yes, worse ever!

"Not Conditional," AND:

"....has tasked the United States Strategic Command
(STRATCOM) with drawing up a contingency plan to
be employed in response to another 9/11-type
terrorist attack on the United States. The plan
includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing
both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons."

WTF!?! WTF-WTF-WTF!

[BeHereNow]

45. WTF indeed.

I think the question on all of our minds
upon reading this is, HOW.
HOW is it possible that our government/military
would even contemplate such a thing
IN OUR NAMES...
:hug:
I know how you feel-
I am heartsick at the prospect that
our government has so distanced itself
from what WE the people feel, want or believe.
It is completely depressing.
BHN

[AuntiBush]

97. This is scary.

Just down the road is a small, unassuming community college. Headed down their months back to grab some paperwork for a professor. Well, I thought I was at Military academy. Since I can remember, it's always been a quite, unassuming community college where many of the poorest attend. Oh, the poor kids are still there, but they have to dodge the military-types running in 6 x 6 multiple groups, all skin-headed, looking emotionless, cold and ready for (?)

'Round the corner, an innocent one-time elementary school. Then it became a police barrack. Now, the Feds are in there -- in the back, ya know. Everyone in these parts mention these strange clicks on their phones or feeling like someone is listening.

You know what. They probably are. :puke:

[Why Syzygy]

84. yeah. how bout

we AVERT any future 9/11 type plan? Is that too much to ask?

All the lame brains can come up with is nuke in the event of attack?

That is lack of creative thinking. No fucking wonder whooshco put under everything he ever laid finger to.

GET HIM OUT OF MY WORLD.

[AuntiBush]

96. Out of this Universe & Still it Would not be Far Enough!

Really, votesomemore!

[alfredo]

48. So no matter who attacks us, we will nuke Iran

That sucks.

[BeHereNow]

50. Well, yeah, that is what I got from the Giraldi piece...

Crazy, no?
BHN

[alfredo]

54. So then North Korea would have no choice but to attack.

If your nation is one of three nations named as enemies, and the other two have been attacked, you have to figure you're next. You know you will suffer incalculable horrors, so you might as well get your licks in while you can.

[bloom]

51. Including the option

of us attacking ourselves....

[wli]

62. precisely, because they're going to attack themselves like 9/11

It looks like the exercise is supposed to be in South Carolina, but I'm deathly afraid he'll go after central cities in single-large-city -based states (i.e. big blue islands in otherwise completely red states), like where I live.

[Imagevision]

60. Even more interesting is that the Vice-President does this!

Bush probably still doesn't even knows this story exists - Rove & Cheney find it it really noe necessary to inform Bozo of anything of importance until it's time to wire him up and parade him out to the podium...!

[lonestarnot]

64. He is antichrist #2... fucking freak! Cheney rot in hell!

[halsaxby]

65. If there is any truth to that article.....

then 9/11-II is being planned too. Perhaps by the same people.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

66. String Cheney up.

Oops. I mean please don't string Cheney up.

[Name removed]

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[bananas]

79. It was asked at Thurday's White House press conference

I wonder which reporter asked this question:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/07/20050728-3.html

Q Scott, an article in the American Conservative by Philip Giraldi, former intelligence operative, indicated the Vice President has revamped strategy towards Iran where there are now 300 to 400 missiles targeted various sites in Iran, including tactical nuclear missiles, especially aimed at the Iranian nuclear capabilities. These are now, according to Giraldi, also under command of the theater commander.

Given our problems with Iran and the fact that now that they have decided to go for the full cycle of their peaceful nuclear program, might we be anxious that if there were a terrorist incident here in the United States in any way connected to Iran, that there might be a knee-jerk reaction of utilizing this hair-trigger against the Iranians?

MR. McCLELLAN: One, I appreciate your question. I'm not going to get into accepting anything that you alleged in your comments. I'm not going to get into discussing matters relating to national security of that nature.

Two, in terms of Iran, Iran made some commitments to suspend their uranium enrichment and reprocessing activities. We expect them to abide by that commitment. If they were to begin those activities again, they would be violating the commitment they made under the Paris agreement with the Europeans. And we have made it very clear that Iran has a history of hiding their nuclear activities from the international community. That's why it's so important that you have some confidence-building measures, or objective guarantees in place, so that they show the international community that their nuclear program is not being used to develop weapons, or that they're not developing weapons under the cover of a civilian program.

And if Iran is going to violate their agreements, then we would, obviously, be looking at discussing with the Europeans, who have also committed to doing so, looking at going to the Security Council.

[bananas]

80. It's now online at the magazine website

You're missing the first sentence from the article,
an important one, I think.

http://www.amconmag.com/2005_08_01/article3.html

August 1, 2005 Issue
Copyright © 2005 The American Conservative

Deep Background

In Washington it is hardly a secret that the same people in and around the administration who brought you Iraq are preparing to do the same for Iran. The Pentagon, acting under instructions from Vice President Dick Cheney’s office, ...

[BeHereNow]

95. OH, thank you for the link!

I was wondering when/if it would be online.
As of my original posting, it was not available-
just bits and pieces quoted here and there
on other web sites.
BHN

[hnsez]

90. This is old news, I heard a US general say the same thing months ago

[bloom]

94. While that may be...

I don't think it is common knowledge in the US that Cheney is talking about nuking Iran as a response to terrorism here.

[Zhade]

93. Kick?

Uncertain on this one, but will read carefully.