California "minutemen"

[SHRED]

My thoughts on the "minutemen".
I sense that these groups attract racists, in particular, Mexican haters.
Just a thought.
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/3285468

I truly would be interested if any of these Minutemen have hired or know people who hire undocumented workers. After all that is the real issue. Hiring. They come here for the jobs and not just the ones "we won't do". Ever been to a construction site? It's not that we "won't" do the job it's that we can't afford to be paid so little.

The loudest screamers are sometimes the worst offenders. Case in point:
The construction contractor. Typically "conservative", Bush and flag stickers all over the back window of their lifted Ford F-350. Does that draw a familiar picture at Home Depot? Now go to their job site and see who they've hired. Now I know that is stereotyping but I have happened to be acquainted with a few of these guys, over the years, and let me tell you they do not check the workers "papers" before letting them get in at the corner lot.
Ironically enough this is the same stereotypical person, who over a few beers, will tell you we need to station troops at the borders.
My sense is that these "Minutemen" fall squarely in my description.

There are more types like the wealthy and upper middle class homes who have live-in Nannies and yard workers; but you get my point.
This issue is much more than a few camo guys with sidearms and binoculars at the border. We aren't even addressing the H1-B Visa worker program that is gutting the high-tech worker's pay right here by importing low payed Indians to fill companies full of cheap software engineers. It is indentured servitude at it's worst.

While some may get a "feel good" response watching those boys play wild west scout down there, the beat goes on as I have described above.

my 2 cents

[Flying Dream Blues]

1. Exactly right, in my opinion. Great post.

[DBoon]

2. They don't really want to stop immigration

They just want to intimidate and dehumanize the immigrants so they have a cheap docile workforce.

[GoldenOldie]

3. These Vigilante's want to play soldier but haven't the guts to

actually enlist and fight with actual insurgents.

Here in Arizona they drive their recreational vehicles, carrying sidearms, etc. They discovered the body of a young women only a few hundred feet from a water tank station that has been set up and filled by humanitarians. Many of these tanks have been shot at by these vigilante's and when confronted they use the excuses that it just enables the illegals. They showed trails of debris left by the illegals because they have become to weak to carry it. The vigilante's blame the environmentalists for not cleaning up the debris yet with the hundreds of vigilante's standing around looking at the debris, none of them took the time to pack out any of it.....kinda not my job, let a tree hugger do it????

The local news did their usual job of giving a crappy story.....the vigilante weeping over 1-dead young girl when they ignore the water tanks full of holes that could have saved her. They ignore the plight of the hispanic illegals who take this dangerous trip in order to feed their families.

[SHRED]

4. "Vigilante" is a good word for it

A lot of these guys should be locked up.
They exploit others while hiding behind a pretend "noble" cause.

It is "bait and switch" racism.

[jonnyblitz]

6. they have more than a few supporters here at DU. very pathetic

I find it very fucking troubling that "progressives" here at DU would support a bunch of fucking KKK vigilantes. they are always so "stunned" when i go off on them in a thread. :eyes:

[Cleita]

5. If you watched the CBS news last night, a reporter

interviewed a fat ass of a Minuteman who simply stated that we don't need anyone in 'murika who don't speak English. The reporter didn't even debate how racist his statement was. Yes, it is racist. The fat ass Minuteman said it all.

[Maestro]

7. Too few of us here have been saying that the Minute Men

(no I didn't misspell it) are fucking idiots. See these posts. I am glad to see more DUers noticing this.

NSMA's thread

Proud2BLib's thread

SemiCharmedQuark's thread

My thread