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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:43 AM
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I have been saving links about the rape and torture that is going on......
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 11:39 AM by converted_democrat
in our name. I have quite a few links, does anyone have more to add to my list? I have been saving these because when I tell people about the rape and torture going on over there, they don't want to believe me, so I send them the links so they can read about it for themselves. Some of the victims are children. I don't blame them for not wanting to believe it, I don't want to believe it either. Does anyone here have links that I don't? If you do, please let me have them so I can add them to the list. Thanks in advance.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=50803

http://www.veteransforpeace.org/Rueful_Rumsfeld_050704.htm

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2005/07/319471.html

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/world/iraq/abughraib/151108.pdf

http://informationclearinghouse.info/article6492.htm

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/23/politics/23abuse.html?pagewanted=print

http://www.sundayherald.com/print43796

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?040510fa_fact

on edit--added the quote from Graham. Given that he is a republican all people usually pay attention, no matter what their party affiliation is.

"’The American public needs to understand we're talking about rape and murder here. We're not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience,’ Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina told reporters after Rumsfeld testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee. ’We're talking about rape and murder -- and some very serious charges.’ -------Quote of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R)





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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:46 AM
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1. good idea, what you should do next....
is pull a small quote or excerpt from each of the links and put it right above the link and then just have it saved in a word document somewhere that you can easily copy and paste anytime you need it.

I am sure there is obviously much more stuff out there you should just try and make sure you have a good representative sample of all that's out there. good job.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:04 AM
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6. Thank you that is good advice......n/t
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ScamUSA.Com Donating Member (407 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:50 AM
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2. I track those and other police state and fraud issues
at http://scamusa.com

if perhaps that might be helpful.

It's not the right site for everyone, but the info is 100% accurate
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:58 AM
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4. thanks for the link....
It went into my bookmarks, where it will undoubtedly be used as evidence against me in my secret sedition trial someday. Great site! Thanks for your efforts!
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:09 AM
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7. Thank you for the link....I will check it out....n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:56 AM
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3. this is a long story from a blogger in iraq
http://secretsinbaghdad.blogspot.com/2005/07/i-found-myself.html

his brother raed has been blogging for a long time. i started reading his blogs prior to invasion. his brother was arrested and put in jail. he was a lucky on, he got out in like ten days. here is his story. has stuck with me all night

the person who says, well the same happened when saddam ran the country, i say to them. we didnt have to own it with saddam, it was all his. now......this, we get to own. we are responsible for this, whether we like it or not. we get to feel the shame. it is in our countries name
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 12:34 PM
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9. Thank you seabeyond....I appreciate the link..........n/t
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:00 AM
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5. I don't have any links, but I appreciate you posting this. I'm saving it.
NGU.


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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 01:46 PM
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10. Thank you.
I'm saving them so I can "show and tell" people that still support this administration. The articles usually make them change their tune quickly. It really is a good conversion tool.
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:31 AM
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8. thank you for doing this, it's important - here is a related link


http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050730/ts_alt_afp/usjusticeprisonsrape_050730005900;_ylt=AjOWylg67cKj6DdhUWF9Ckqs0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MjBwMWtkBHNlYwM3MTg


Rape cases in US prisons number in the thousands

- Nearly 2,100 incidents of rape and other sexual violence were recorded in US prisons in 2004, US justice authorities said.

The
Department of Justice said that the highest rate of prison rape and other forced sexual acts was in state-run juvenile prisons, and that the largest portion involved prison staff abuse of inmates.

-snip-

Nearly 42 percent of reported cases of sexual violence involved prison staff abuse of inmates, while 37 percent was inmate-on-inmate violence.
-snip-
--------------------------


it's been revealed that some Abu Ghraib torturers were US prison guards

the MOST rapes were to juveniles - and we wonder why kids are so hostile
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:14 PM
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11. rest assured, vastly underreported
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