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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:26 PM
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Something to Choke On, Again
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 03:35 PM by WilliamPitt
I don't know but I been told,
If the horse don't pull, you got to carry the load.
I don't know whose back's that strong,
Maybe find out before too long.
One way or another…
One way or another…
One way or another…
This darkness got to give.

- Robert Hunter


There are two bad moments looming over the horizon in the coming weeks, and a lot of people who have been watching and working the details should prepare themselves for the ram. A lot of good folks, in all likelihood, are going to be choking on their own rage before the leaves start to turn on Mt. Monadnock.

The first bad moment will center around Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, who has been surprisingly diligent and effective in his investigation into who outed deep-cover CIA agent Valerie Plame. His diligence and effectiveness has been surprising, it should be noted, because he has been the only person in government lo these last five years who has actually and sincerely attempted to uncover and unravel the nest of lies, deceptions and bare-faced criminal actions of the Bush administration.

That means, of course, that he has got to go. GOP defenders of Bush, Rove and Libby have been lining up salvos against Fitzgerald should he continue to evidence his unfortunate streak of moral clarity. As Joe Conason reported in the New York Observer last week, “Circled in a bristling perimeter around the White House, the friends and allies of Mr. Rove can soon be expected to fire their rhetorical mortars at Patrick Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor investigating the White House exposure of CIA operative Valerie Wilson. Indeed, the preparations for that assault began months ago in the editorial columns of The Wall Street Journal, which has tarred Mr. Fitzgerald as a ‘loose cannon’ and an ‘unguided missile.’”

“Evidently,” continued Conason, “Senator Pat Roberts, the Kansas Republican who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, will lead the next foray against the special prosecutor. This week the Senator’s press office announced his plan to hold hearings on the Fitzgerald probe. That means interfering with an ‘ongoing investigation,’ as the White House press secretary might say, but such considerations won’t deter the highly partisan Kansan.”

This was to be expected. The word ‘Irony’ was deleted from the GOP Dictionary many years ago, along with words like ‘Shame’ and ‘Hypocrite.’ These fellows achieved their lofty status in no small part because of a genuinely loose-cannon investigator named Starr, who burned five years of our lives leaping from land deals to consensual sex in a Puritanical crusade that had more to do with the 2000 election and stalling out an effective Democratic administration than anything else.

Attacks against Fitzgerald won’t do a great deal of damage to the investigation, or to Fitzgerald, by themselves. But they will help to increase the volume as we cycle towards the endgame. You see, Fitzgerald’s term as Special Counsel expires in October. Former Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, no relation, intimated in a recent interview that House Speaker Denny Hastert is augering towards making sure the pesky investigator is not granted an extension of his investigative term.

Can Bush and his congressional allies survive the resulting howls of indignation if Fitzgerald and his investigation are stuffed in a soft-shoe version of the Saturday Night Massacre? Well, considering the fact that they have thus far survived a disastrous invasion of Iraq, 1,796 dead American soldiers, shameless profiteering from corporations umbilically connected to the White House, Enron, tax cuts that eviscerated the budget, and the murder of about 3,000 people in New York and Washington right under their noses, and all that just for starters, the idea that dumping Fitzgerald will do any harm to the administration can pretty safely be filed under ‘Pipe Dream.’

And then there is the wildly unqualified and wretched Mr. John Bolton. Bolton, undersecretary of state for arms control during Bush's first term, has had his nomination as UN Ambassador stalled by Senate Democrats for several months now. Bolton, it has been revealed, not only treats his underlings the way Tamerlane treated India, but was a central figure in the manipulation of WMD evidence to justify the invasion of Iraq. It was Bolton who shepherded the Office of Special Plans through its process of cherry-picking intelligence to paint a picture for war. His is, basically, the worst possible human to send to the United Nations as the representative of the United States.

The Washington Post reported on Saturday that, “The White House signaled yesterday that President Bush is likely to circumvent the Senate and install John R. Bolton as U.N. ambassador without a confirmation vote, provoking anger among Democratic lawmakers even as they consider the president's Supreme Court nominee. Bush will be free to use his recess appointment power as soon as Congress leaves town this weekend, and the White House has told allies to expect such a move, possibly before the president heads to Crawford, Tex., on Tuesday for his own summer break. A recess appointment would put Bolton at the United Nations until the next Congress convenes in January 2007.”

Democratic reaction to this was vehement. “John Bolton is a person who, in his personal relationship with government employees, has been abominable, mean, unreasonable and bizarre,” said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid. Senator Chris Dodd, echoing Reid, said, “He's damaged goods. This is a person who lacks credibility. This would be the first U.N. ambassador since 1948 we've ever sent there under a recess appointment. That's not what you want to send up, a person that doesn't have the confidence of the Congress.”

That and a dollar won’t get you a Grande Whatever at the local Starbucks. It sure won’t stop Bush from sending this cretin to represent us in that world body in a day when international cooperation is not only important, but vital to the safety and survival of our republic.

But hey, why should we expect any different? Karl Rove and Lewis Libby betrayed our national security by outing a CIA agent who was keeping weapons of mass destruction out of the hands of terrorists. They did this to keep the lid on the lies and disinformation being spread about the threat posed by Iraq. A good portion of those lies were put forth by John Bolton. Unless history decides to do an about face, Rove and Libby will walk away from their crimes once Fitzgerald is put out to pasture, and Bolton will slip into the UN building by way of the back door.

It is what it is, and there is probably no stopping it. Perhaps, though, there is an object lesson in this. The American people are about to get yet another IMAX-sized example of what happens in government when the powerful do not suffer accountability. Perhaps the American people will remember this when they go to the polls in the 2006 midterms. Until then, however, we will continue to choke on it.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:30 PM
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1. His name is Peter Fitzgerald..
"Former Republican Senator Patrick Fitzgerald, no relation, intimated in a recent interview that House Speaker Denny Hastert is augering towards making sure the pesky investigator is not granted an extension of his investigative term."

http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=F000442
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:36 PM
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3. D'oh. Thanks.
I get so used to writing 'Patrick' before 'Fitzgerald' that my fingers zone and do it on their own.

Appreciated.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:37 PM
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5. Isn't Peter the prosecutor, and Patrick the senator????
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:42 PM
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6. No, and the reason I know all this
is because I was calling "Patrick Fitzgerald".."Peter" before I noticed he wasn't Peter at all..he was Patrick.. Fitzgerald..Whew! :)
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:35 PM
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2. And why can't someone ask Hastert his intentions ?
It's as if he is an invisible man?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:36 PM
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4. This is why I think they've gamed the election system.
No Party would dare to flaunt their criminal acts so openly and give the proverbial finger to the will of the people unless they knew that they controlled the vote results.

Maybe we haven't suffered enough yet. I think it will take a 70% majority to override the Republican vote counting machine. Maybe that day will be in 2006, maybe in 2008. But it will occur.

Like your choice of lyrics, by the way!
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:36 PM
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I agree
The repugs have been acting for a while now like a party that never expects to be "out of power" again. Doing things that conventional wisdom suggests would either bite them in the ass in upcoming elections or haunt them if they ever did return to the minority. (Nuclear option etc...). It seems to me that the republican party is A) Being incredibly short sighted B) They are trying to cram as much of their agenda as they can down our throats before they do inevitably lose power or C) they know something the rest of us either don't know or are still trying to believe.
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:18 PM
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26. I couldn't quite put my finger on it, but that's exactly
it...they don't think anything can topple their regime. Anyone still believe we have fair elections?
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:35 PM
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33. they're probably not planning on having elections
i.e. we are headed for outright dictatorship. They don't care because their seats aren't going to be challenged in electoral contests, because there aren't going to be electoral contests. As General Tommy Franks said, "Get ready for martial law."
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tofubo Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:00 PM
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21. even if it's 70-30, the repubs will alter the vote and say that
zogby et al are partisan, a view parroted by the bought and sold press, and we'll have a republican majority from here till armageddon
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:40 PM
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39. I think 70% is a good estimate.
Gasp! It shocks me that I belive this about voting in my country!!

:grr: "We're not in America anymore!"
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davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 03:43 PM
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7. Messing with Fitz MIGHT be the third rail.
In all seriousness, I think that they are making a really big mistake if they mess with Fitz too much. To be honest with you, I see those popularity numbers drooping, and I see the numbers dropping about the Asswipe's "trustworthiness" and I see an administration that is losing the base.

If they have lost the base than what you are gonna start to see is the neo-cons getting hung out to dry. The regular GOP guys are gonna be handed an easy way to ditch the albatross in the WH and all his baggage. (A la Nixon)

Bolton, after all the hoopla, is gonna end up a recess appointment. That means his term is limited, and his ability to screw up relations really IS limited. We can't look much worse internationally than we already do. Bolton is an asshole, no doubt, but I really think that messing with Fitz at all will be the nail in coffin.

I'm laying a supply of popcorn and beer.


Laura
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:55 PM
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18. 2006 elections
We may be able to make some headway in the House if things keep sinking for the GOP. We need just 14 more Reps to make a majority.

And a third of the Senate will be up, too.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:21 PM
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36. BUT who controls the media and who counts the vote?????
I said this after FL2000 when everyone was soooo confident about 2002.....and after 2002 when everyone was soooo confident about 2004

people at DU are aware and working on the problem but WHERE ARE THE ELECTED DEMOCRATS AND THE PARTY LEADERS????????.....it's really very hard to give them the benefit of the doubt when the rigged process is obvious to a 5th grader

HOW CAN ANY ELECTED DEMOCRAT THINK S/HE IS LIVING IN A 'POLITICS AS USUAL' WORLD??????

the republicans are fighting a total war and take no prisoners

WE see this clearly.......WHERE ARE THE DEMOCRATIC ELECTED OFFICIALS????.......they must be bought, threatened (and their families) or JUST TOO STUPID TO BE OUT WITHOUT A KEEPER
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:05 AM
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43. I hear ya
Election reform should definitely be at the top of everyone's list.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:15 PM
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8. .
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:19 PM
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9. I Wonder What H2O Man's Take Is on This?
Well... Here's to Hope!!!!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:23 PM
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10. This is why we need to expose Roberts FIRST. He planted antiWilson talking
points into the Senate Intel report as an addendum agreed and signed ONLY by Roberts, Hatch and Blount - all Bush's political hitmen.

Not even the other Repubs on the committee would sign on to their planted charges against Wilson.

Fitzgerald should call all three of those Senators to testify UNDER OATH how they came to include those conclusions into their addendum and also show the evidence they used to reach those conclusions.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:33 PM
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13. WOW, I hadn't seen that one.
You got sources for that? That would help my file along greatly.

-Hoot
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:48 PM
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16. Check out the Senate Intel report on Iraq. It's in the addendums.
All the GOP talking heads have been using the Senate Intel report to attack Wilson's credibility, never mentioning that the "findings" were only an addendum that was signed by THREE Senators.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:54 PM
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17. Oh, Damn, You meant Senator Roberts, Not Judge Roberts n/t
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 04:54 PM by hootinholler
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:39 PM
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30. Uh...yeah...SENATE Intel report...three SENATORS signed....
Pretty monumental since an OFFICIAL Senate report was used to plant false conclusions about a Rove political target.

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:30 PM
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11. Um, just one thing, Will
If you can give me the connections that show Bolton was shepherding the OSP, I'd appreciate it.

Bolton was at State, not the DOD. I have Luti, Feith and Wolfie doing that shepherding job. Now I certainly doubt that Bolton was ignorant of what was going on in the OSP, especially when Wurmser came to work for him after working in the OSP. I don't think he was in charge of the cherry picking, I think he was more in charge of controlling what Powell knew leading up to the UN presentation and coordinating the removal of the threat (to Halliburton?) that was presented by Brewster Jennings.

Still not someone deserving of the UN ambassadorship.

-Hoot
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:32 PM
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12. He was the traffic cop
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:36 PM
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14. Well, ok, but how?
I don't have him in the right places to be a traffic cop except in what was going to Powell. Not insignificant, but definately not OSP.

-Hoot
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:37 PM
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15. Just my 2 cents, Bolton was put in place by Mr. Cheney to keep
Mr. Powell in check. Mr. Powell was never part or the neocon game.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:57 PM
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20. Dunno if Cheney placed him,
But that seems to be his special purpose.

-Hoot
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:13 PM
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25. Yep, he did n/t
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 04:56 PM
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19.  "... when they go to the polls in the 2006 midterms."
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 04:56 PM by FlemingsGhost
Please tell me you are still not banking on a system that has failed time and time again.

If so, you sure are choking on it ... balls deep.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:40 PM
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34. ITYM "if they go to the polls in the 2006 midterms"
They know the electoral fraud cat is out of the bag and know they've got life sentences coming if they let the Democrats sweep the house. The alternative is an emperor's crown and trillions of embezzled dollars. So long as the military follows their orders, there's not going to be a 2006 midterm, or another presidential election.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:00 PM
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22. There are Dems in Illinois who would like to see Fitzgerald go, too
Nate Clay was laying it all out on his radio show last night. Evidently, Fitz has been diligent in ferreting out Dem impropriety, as well. So some on both sides of the aisle would like to see him gone. :(
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:03 PM
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23. Patrick Fitzgerald hopefully knows his time is limited and I just
hope he issues the indictments sooner not later. BRING THEM ON PATRICK!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:06 PM
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24. Me too!
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:42 PM
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35. are you sure? indictments to a neofascist majority in both houses?
Where do you think those are going to go? Well, I know: acquittal and/or exoneration. Then double jeopardy applies, and they're off scot-free to enjoy the trillions in their Swiss bank accounts.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:30 PM
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37. When indicted they go to trial in the courts.
Excepting Bush.

-Hoot
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:23 PM
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27. Geez, I'm most intrigued by the Mount Monadnock reference.
Do you reside in my neck of the woods (Cheshire County)? Or just anticipating the primaries? I hope you're wrong about Fitzgerald being disappeared prior to indictments, though it wouldn't surprise me. As for Bolton, all we can hope is that Fitzgerald stays, Bolton either lied or blabbed and is frog marched out of the U.N.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:33 PM
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28. I think all this foul play is going to result in a revolting revolution!
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 05:34 PM by lonestarnot
:mad: :argh:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:37 PM
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29. I sadly agree with your assessment below unless Judy Miller's
role turns out to be the subject of a dramatic release. The case as Plamegate or Rovegate will somehow be contained. But if it can be shown to be Traitorgate then fortunes could change. Here's to good fortune and some people becoming -Toast.

"Can Bush and his congressional allies survive the resulting howls of indignation if Fitzgerald and his investigation are stuffed in a soft-shoe version of the Saturday Night Massacre? Well, considering the fact that they have thus far survived a disastrous invasion of Iraq, 1,796 dead American soldiers, shameless profiteering from corporations umbilically connected to the White House, Enron, tax cuts that eviscerated the budget, and the murder of about 3,000 people in New York and Washington right under their noses, and all that just for starters, the idea that dumping Fitzgerald will do any harm to the administration can pretty safely be filed under ‘Pipe Dream.’"
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:44 PM
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31. Those who are committed to the tenets of this nation will be separated,...
,...from those who don't give a damn and are willing to sell off everything that created "America", piece by piece.

We'll find out the real patriots and the true traitors. I look forward to such revelations.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:46 PM
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32. Hopefully this will backfire on Republicans
It is despicable and anti-American that they're even doing it - of course they are Republicans so that's nothing more than SOP - however it may not work out well for them. This attempt to control the treason investigation could publicize the issue and keep it front and center for a week's worth of news, giving lots of people the opportunity to comment on it.

I'm actually kind of surprised that Republican traitors would help shine the light on their cockroach-morals selves. Usually they let the mainstream Republican media sweep their problems under the rug.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:15 PM
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41. When the news get rough on Rethugs...Saddam's trial will start and
wipe it off the Media because they can't cover two things at once.
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:38 PM
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38. Boobus Americanus: Who's John Bolton?
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 07:39 PM by Postman
This country is dead.

The sheeple deserve what they have in the White House. Unfortunately the informed have to suffer, or leave.
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:52 PM
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40. Oh man...
I guess you are trying to make me feel depressed William. Just when I think there may be a small ray of hope, you go a drop this on me. While reading I started day dreaming about this Septembers protest in D.C. What a day dream... I riot broke out, and we the people marched into he Capital and took back our country!

It's hard to think positive, but I'm crossing my fingers that Fitzgerald will come through soon. If not my day dream may HAVE to come true.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:09 PM
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42. Fuck that noise Will Pitt!
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 09:10 PM by Swamp Rat
Take a hit of my "Pipe Dream!" ... er, "Dream Pipe." :D


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See how awesome things are gonna turn out? :D

edit: don't forget to bring a towel. :)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:22 AM
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44. I really believed people would stand up after the S&L robbery.
Iran/Contra, the sacking of Panama and imprisonment of a former CIA operative. Nothing. Nada. Then again - October suprise...nada...bay of pigs, no. Vietnam, no.

And now we have a real crime syndicate in charge, an honest to god criminal empire! Like all cartels it comes with billion dollar lawyers and a rubber stamp House and Senate. Did I mention Cheney and Scalia are swell chums?

Fucking bitter taste.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:46 PM
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45. Will you're the best N/T
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:51 PM
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46. Wish I had the chance to recommend this.
Another outstanding piece, Will.

:hi:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 06:57 PM
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47. I'm sick. My country is gone, isn't it? n/t
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 09:10 PM
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48. Yes, it is.
Let's try to build a new one, okay?
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