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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:15 PM
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Bush torture policies: Suffer the little children...
http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=7270

Saturday 30th July 2005 (13h42) :

Bush torture policies: Suffer the little children...

Via Scotland’s Sunday Herald:

It was early last October that Kasim Mehaddi Hilas says he witnessed the rape of a boy prisoner aged about 15 in the notorious Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq. "The kid was hurting very bad and they covered all the doors with sheets," he said in a statement given to investigators probing prisoner abuse in Abu Ghraib. "Then, when I heard the screaming I climbed the door... and I saw who was wearing a military uniform."

In another witness statement, passed to the Sunday Herald, former prisoner Thaar Salman Dawod said: " two boys naked and they were cuffed together face to face and was beating them and a group of guards were watching and taking pictures and there was three female soldiers laughing at the prisoners. The prisoners, two of them, were young."

Proof of the widespread arrest and detention of children in Iraq by US and UK forces is contained in an internal Unicef report written in June. (via Sunday Herald, 01 August 2004)

<snip>

I’ve got the strangest feeling that Jesus wasn’t in favor of torturing children. What did he say... Let me refresh the memory of my KoolAid-drunk Republican friends:

It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones. (Luke 2:17)
..more..

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marew Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:20 PM
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1. I'm sick. It just gets worse and worse!
Anyone seen this?

Dublin's Four Courts
RETRIAL: Oct. 24th, 2005

MisTrial Declared for Peace Activists

The trial of five Catholic Worker peace activists collapsed today at the Dublin Circuit Criminal Court as Judge Frank O'Donnell discharged the jury. The five accused Deirdre Clancy, Nuin Dunlop, Karen Fallon, Ciaron O'Reilly, and Damien Moran were been charged with causing criminal damage to a US Navy Warplane at Shannon Airport on February 3rd 2003.

The defendants argued they were attempting to protect lives and property and to uphold the law by nonviolently resisting Irish participation ion the Iraq war.

Their trial began on Monday last March 7th but ran into difficulties on Friday last when the defence counsel requested the judge to discharge the jury.

Read more at their website:
http://www.warontrial.com/
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:24 PM
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3. The world is wakening up to Bush's inhumanity
We need to hold onto that thought. I think even some of the Bushbots are waking up. It looks like it as all the polls are showing how unfavorably citizens view W.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:22 PM
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2. That Iraqi boy was not a FETUS
so they don't give a damn about him.

And by the way, I think this Iraqi boy may have been the kid in the picture I saw that was pulled off the Net. The boy in the picture appeared to be screaming while he was being raped, to the cheers of the onlooking soldiers in the picture.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:41 PM
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5. He wasn't a WHITE, CHRISTIAN fetus.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 08:04 PM
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9. That's how "powerlessness" works. Instead of fighting to better what is,.
,...escape to that which is completely beyond our control and PRETEND to master that beyond our reach (ignoring the fact that we rarely have ANY say whether or not conception will lead to life,...most of those "conceptions" are shed without any human control whatsoever). Yep, those who are too powerless to commit themselves to advancing the lives that are here and now MUST indulge in magical, delusional, less powerful pursuits.

Shameful!!!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:30 PM
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4. "MORALITY!"
That is the issue Bush "won" on in 2004! Anyone who voted for Bush the second time, shares the guilt!
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 05:43 PM
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6. Unlike the Nazis at Nuremberg
hanging is too good for them. Life in a prison housing real hardened criminals would be about right.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 07:48 PM
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8. eye for an eye? re-creating Abu Ghraib just to punish them?
I don't think so.
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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 09:55 PM
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10. No
We already have plenty of prisons like that now here. Use one of them.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:03 PM
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11. true enough, though it's not as if they're justifiable either
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 11:03 PM by wli
After shutting down the Abu Ghraib mess, the prisons at home need to be cleaned up, too (freeing most nonviolent offenders esp. drug offenders, eliminating abuse).
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 06:01 PM
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7. Yet, we fail to unite beyond the game of politics to stop this evil.
We allow the RW political assaults to rule our lives,...to drive us into a herd against our own good folks,...to divide our common humanity.

Pisses me off!!!

When we stop treating the brutal exploitation of human beings as if it's dependent upon the RW game of politics, maybe,...just maybe we will discover our power to conquer the most evil roots of human exploitation.

When.
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