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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 10:58 PM
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Who smoked some pot and still turned out OK?
you know, apparently, as soon as you puff, you start looking for heroin the next day, and selling all of your stuff to feed the monkey. :sarcasm:

Um. I call bullshit. Personally, my own experiences with drugs ended with pot, and for some reason, I never felt the need to smoke crack.

Am I a statistical anomaly, or the norm? :shrug:

Also, Clinton and * say hello.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:01 PM
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1. I smoked pot in my younger days
And look what happened to me! Let that be a warning.
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LiveWire Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:15 PM
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58. Im still in my younger days and I've never smoked pot...
But not cuz i didnt want to end up like jackpine over here. MJ just seems to be a waste of time and money for me. Not to mention its ruined a few lives in my family. See, I know MJ is not addictive. However, the only side effect I could see is settling for second rate in everything. I like to think that it ruins your motivation for everything in life. That is why I dont smoke pot. I drink like a fish however.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:01 PM
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2. the process is ongoing, but I'm optimistic
:smoke:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:01 PM
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3. who is still smoking pot and turned out ok? wink
maher seems to be doing fine
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:01 PM
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4. Didn't george washington smoke pot?
I know my oldest sister shareen did she's fine. She's the good one not the fundie.
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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:29 PM
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48. So did Thomas Jefferson and JFK
Along with many other gifted people. Carl Sagan, one of the greatest scientists to ever live, it turns out actually had some of his greatest scientific insights when he was high.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:02 PM
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5. Clinton, Bush
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 11:03 PM by Rex
The last two, ahem, presidents have a history of drug use. One was great and this noobie one really sucks the hair off of a monkey's balls.

Two sides of the same coin. I would say NO, drugs don't make a person turn out any way except how they wanted things to turn out.

Example - Rush is a drug addict and sits far and away from jail. I rest my case.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:13 AM
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16. There's a big difference between the pot smoker and the coke head.
Coke heads are fucking crazy.

Rush, he's a garbage can junkie, "pill popper." In the druggie pecking order, they are the lowest of the low. Even heroin addicts look down on them.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:26 AM
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20. Have you seen recent pictures of Rush?
He looks like tanned cowhide. You can see the addiction in his face.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:58 AM
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30. Sometimes junkies go down hill physically after kicking.
Not sure if Rush has quit. I remember Keith Richards saying that he never had a cold until after he kicked heroin.

Had a friend who kicked heroin and he became a total whack job. I guess the heroin kept certain behaviors in check.
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:31 PM
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63. I think Asscroft, too...
check it out....




me, personally, I didn't inhale :smoke:
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The Doctor. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:03 PM
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6. Tried nearly everything...
I probably smoke da' stuff once a year or so when I'm in a hammock with NOthing to do.

I still score over 150 on those silly IQ tests.

I still do ok otherwise.

Just never let anything get in the way of your responsibilities I say.
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Coloradan4Truth Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:04 PM
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7. Ahem...
well in high school a little doobage was not beyond the norm.

By the way... a really interesting and entertaining read on the history of pot in America, the war on drugs, and pot's coevolutionary path with humans can be found in the book "The Botany of Desire: A Plant's-Eye View of the World" by Michael Pollan.
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OrlandoGator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:05 PM
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8. In all honesty, I feel that marijuana slowed my wit a little.
I have nothing against those who choose to use it, but I used to be a far more effective smartass before I started smoking it in high school.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:56 PM
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54. Same Here, Did Well In School While Smoking Pot But In Retrospect,
it was definately an albatross and my many talented friends who haven't accomplished as much as their potential indicates.

Pot either takes away your amibition to excel or hinders one's capacity for attainment.
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salcero Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:19 PM
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76. Pot has had a negative effect on me
I'm not sure if the original question is asking whether pot has ruined your life, or whether it has had a negative impact on it. I don't imagine it has completely ruined anyone's lives. However, it has had a negative effect on my life.

I think part of the reason it has had lasting effects on me is because I started smoking regularly at a very early age. I started smoking at 10 years old. By the time I was 12 I was a habitual smoker. By that I mean I was smoking a bowl at least 3 times a day, usually mixed in with bong hits here and there. By the time I was 15 I was smoking an 1/8th every other day by myself, more if I was getting high with other people.

The biggest long-term effect I have experienced is a loss of short-term memory. That doesn't mean I forget everything right after I learn it or anything even remotely like that. However, it is most noticeable when I meet new people. It is almost completely impossible for me to remember a person’s name after I've met them unless I concentrate extremely hard on remembering it. I mean concentrating to the point where I'm not paying attention to any other conversations. Once I've met them a couple of times I don't have any problems remembering their name, it's only the first encounter or so.

Pot also had somewhat of an effect on my ambition as a couple of others mentioned. This was most noticeable in school. I really didn't want to be there and didn't care about my grades. I only gave enough effort to pass the class, usually with D's. At least that was enough to pass so that I didn't have to do that year again. Due to that I obviously had no desire to continue on to college. My only real goals were to get out of class, get some drugs, get high with some friends, and engage in some sort of activity that is fun to do while high. Foosball, Frisbee, hanging out at the park or river, going on long bike rides, whatever. Point being that the only ambition I had was to kick back and have fun without any emphasis placed at all on activities that might actually be important.

I believe that pot also became a gateway drug for me in particular. I don't believe that it is for everyone or even the majority of people. For me however, pot made me realize something very important. That I REALLY enjoyed being high. I wanted to experience just about every form of being high that I could. I only set 2 limits for myself, if you could call them that. I would not stick a needle in my arm, and I would not freebase. Everything else was fair game. I did LSD, Shrooms, Coke, Crystal, Meth, and more prescription drugs than I could possibly name. I never did Ecstasy, as that wasn't around back when I was doing drugs. I didn't really start getting into the other drugs until I was about 15 though.

I quit doing drugs altogether when I was around 20 and so I've been drug free for close to 15 years now. The most noticeable change after quitting was my motivation to learn and improve. I think a lot was due to the fact that I had just gotten a massive monkey off my back. If I could do that, then I could do anything. I've always been pushing myself since then, with the most recent goal having been quitting cigarettes, which I had also started smoking at 10 years old.

The only lasting effect I think I have from drugs and pot specifically is the loss of the short-term memory. At one point in time a few years ago I had the opinion of, oh well. It was a small price to pay for some of the amazing experiences that I had. Now however, I have come to the conclusion that I would have traded it all to have my memories back, as well as the motivation at a much younger age.

I don't know if the reason it had an effect on me is because of how young I started or not. At 10 years old you are still in a stage of pretty heavy development and it could have had an effect on that. Most people I know or have heard talk about doing drugs did not even start until they were in high school or college. Most never became habitual users, or if they did it was again when they were young adults, not children.

If you were able to experiment with and enjoy using drugs with no side effects, more power to you. If only all of us could have been so fortunate.
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:08 PM
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9. That would be me.
I've been musician my entire life and quite frankly it helped hear things in different ways.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:16 PM
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10. Now you know you're a crack head, and stew up a batch every night in the
Edited on Sun Jul-31-05 11:17 PM by lonestarnot
tub!;) on edit... oh that's meth... know yer drugs kids!
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DemInDistress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:18 PM
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11. Hell I'm 59
and still enjoy smoking a joint.No,I'm not a successful person in life but thats not the weed,it was the speed ,coke,dope and pills[uppers,downers,V's codeines and percs that screwed up my life not HEMP..I was fortunate being screwed by Rudy Giuliani in 1997.I sued him and settled in 2002 for 290k.....George Washington grew and smoked HEMP,Ben Franklin wrote the "Declaration of Independence" on HEMP paper while using light from HEMP OIL and enjoying a corncob full of HEMP to smoke..Abe Lincoln enjoyed rocking in his chair while smoking a corncob full of HEMP.For 300 years HEMP has been a staple product of this country,many uses for HEMP but in 1937 DuPont,Hearst Mellon and J.P.Morgan saw HEMP as a competitor and hired a "Hack" named Anslinger to place in the middle of the night legislation outlawing HEMP...FDR signed the bill the next day not realizing HEMP was now illegal to obtain and possess...I could go on and on ...
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phiddle Donating Member (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:30 PM
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12. Did I smoke pot? Uh, I forget....
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:37 PM
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13. How about the president and founder of Progressive Auto Insurance....
He seems to do OK as a regular pot smoker.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:37 PM
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14. Moi
More than 'some'. LOL
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-31-05 11:39 PM
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15. about 80% of us
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:16 AM
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17. Me.
Successful medical professional and lapsed but still qualified member of Mensa.

I'd smoke it tomorrow if it didn't jeopardize my DEA registration.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:17 AM
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18. I'm fine, thanks for asking... n/t
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 12:18 AM by Blue_In_AK
"lapsed but still qualified member of Mensa" -- me, too. :)
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:24 AM
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19. Huh?
Did you say something?
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trackfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:47 AM
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21. I did, but it didn't work - I went on to a much stronger drug: alcohol
Pot has virtually zero effect on me, and I've never understood the hoopla, or the attraction. It may have made me tired a few times, but certainly never made me feel "good". If I go pour a drink right now, it will make me feel "good" (at least for a while). I understand the attraction, and potential danger, of alcohol, but pot seems both harmless, and pretty much useless.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:15 PM
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43. Sometimes it takes a couple tries to recognize the effect.
I didn't get high the first few times.

Now one toke is enough for me. Of course it is too expensive for a guy on SS disability.

If you never do, no big thing.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:12 PM
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57. just a couple of totally unsolicited observations:
1. you must have smoked some pretty weak pot

2. what another response said: it often takes a sort of "getting used" to the effects before you really notice the effects

3. alcohol is most definitely a much more powerful and dangerous drug

4. I don't think most of the proponents of medical marijuana would agree with you about it being "useless"...whether it gets them high or not

5. Cool! More for the rest of us!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:52 AM
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22. me! . . . me! . . . (uh, what was the question?) . . . n/t
.
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Jackson4Gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:52 AM
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23. Let me guess
You just got through watching Bill Maher's HBO special?

Why are you trying to defend the use of illegal drugs. I am sure there are some lawyers, teachers, ect. who are coke heads and still manage to do their jobs, but does that make it ok?

The bottom line is--smoking anything is bad. Pot kills brain cells. The last thing America needs is anymore burnouts.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:08 PM
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56. Lots of legal ones are worse, that's all.
Alcohol fries brain cells a lot faster, and cigarettes kill more people. At least pot has some medicinal properties.

And I say that as a drinker. It's just hypocritical to outlaw a comparatively harmless substance when we admit we're not about to ban our harmful ones.

(I don't smoke pot, but my uncle died from a very painful cancer, and it pisses me off that people don't think he should have been able to have access to something that made him feel better.)
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:55 AM
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24. tried some in college, will never touch it again
It wasn't a bad experience, but I'm a law and order person, and just generally don't find chemical masturbation a worthy pursuit.
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Freedomfried Donating Member (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:09 AM
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25. I smoked weed during my 10 years on UDT/SEAL teams
Earned lots of awards and commendations.

It was just stressful ducking the tests or doing the water torture when the urinalysis was inevitable.

Best operators I ever met on the teams liked to smoke weed. Nothing like smoking a joint before a long run or a hard workout.

How’s that for a surprise?
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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:21 AM
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26. It helped me to get through several rounds of chemo.
It's much more effective than the conventional antiemetic drugs... and a lot less expensive.

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AngelAsuka Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:24 AM
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27. OH not me!
I was terrified to lose my sanity by that evil plant! Why, just one toke drove a woman insane enough to jump out a plate glass window in that well-researched and true documentary, 'Reefer Madness'! :sarcasm: :silly:

~~AA~~
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lynch03 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:56 AM
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28. I have been PERMANENTLY DAMAGED, BY DRUGS
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 02:58 AM by lynch03
Perscription drugs that is, I was taking a certain medication for depression that has altered me for life. I only wish I used the recreational benefits of something like weed to treat my depression, I would have been much better off. Funny how I hear more people complaining from problems with PERSCRIPTION DRUGS (type in effexor withdrawal) then recreational drugs, it's really sickening how big corporations like GSK can get away with marketing poision like this.

I can't stand how illegal drugs are demonized when most the people I know who've consumed them turn out fine,in fact more insightful and aware. Mean while i'm a wreck because I consumed something perscribed by a doctor. Fuck, D.A.R.E and every other drug awareness program, I trusted them with their propaganda about drugs ruining your life, and it was all lies, the only drugs that are bad are the ones your afraid to go after.

And the thing that really pisses me off is that the only reason I stayed away from drugs was becauase of what groups like D.A.R.E. told me, I was scared of getting screwed in the head, not in a million years would I think something perscribed by a doctor would cause harm..
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 03:23 AM
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29. Smoked off and on for thirty years..Much more mellower, more tolerant,
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 03:43 AM by LaPera
and insightful person when I decide to enjoy a nice organic hit or two...No wonder these right-wing fucks hate it and me so much...They don't want anyone to think or be happy...But pound whiskey until you can't see or think anymore and kill yourself or others is OK though...just as long as you don't think!

Through the years I sometimes didn't smoke much, other years I enjoyed it immensley...I sure as fuck don't think it's immoral to smoke the only non physically addicting substance on earth...because of some bullshit laws says you can't do that. Who in the fuck are they?

Let's not even get into legal killer drugs like cigarettes, or pharmaceuticals that both kill tens of thousands every year...legal pharmaceuticals, most are very dangerous and so fucking addicting.

As one said... "You never seen a person lying in the gutter begging for a joint"...but you have with cigarettes, alcohol, pharmaceuticals and other drugs.

I do enjoy pot now as much as ever...when watching a good film, enjoying some good music or just relaxing...And I got so fucking tired of waking up with hangovers from alcohol...

Alcohol is so hard on the body, it just destroy ones body and set one up for many illness' later on... and the law says well you can do that cuz we say it's OK!

Talk about bullshit!!!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 10:59 AM
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31. It messed my bro up. He's clean as a whistle now, though.
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:00 AM
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32. Pot messed up your brother? How?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:06 AM
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35. To be honest we can't say for sure it was the pot since he drank as well
but he thinks he did smoke some stuff that was laced with something else because he said he had some bad experiences from smoking a few times that were unlike anything else he had experienced with pot.

Since he stopped he's straightened his life out (He had a lot of anger and depression issues at the same time he was smoking.) but as to whether or not he could start smoking again and still maintain his life the way it is now, I don't know if he could and neither does he. But he doesn't want to take any chances so he doesn't smoke or drink any more.

On the other hand we have a goddess mother who smokes socially and she's always been fine.

So I guess, like alcohol, it depends on what your individual chemistry can deal with. I dunno.
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Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:42 PM
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74. Get real! It was NOT not the pot!
Pot "laced" with something, isn't just pot now is it?

Alcohol tears the body apart, kicks the body's ass, along with causing depression and sickness.

Your brother sounds like one of those over-indulgent pesonalities...who will keep doing anything and everything until the body goes haywire, then blame it on everything except for his own misconceptions, by not understanding the word "moderation". Some people do indeed have addictive personality's and should stay away from everything. Since they'll keep doing the same thing continually until their body explodes, I can't really understand it, I only understand there are people like that...

I also know pot is NOT physically addicting. As for the weak minded who believe "they NEED it", those people have allowed them self to become mentally addicted. I've enjoyed smoking for over twenty-eight years. Personally, I don't want to be high all the time, I enjoy the clarity most of the time, not always, and believe me I've over indulged many times. But I truly enjoy smoking a nice dob, whenever I chose to, not because I need to, or because I'm mentally dependent on it and I like to just get out of it and party as much as the next dude...but I sure as fuck don't want to go days doing it over & over...that becomes just as boring to me as anything else. I'm sure its easy for for some who aren't aware of the addiction process and how the mind can convince one that they are dependant and do "need" it, until they do inevitably become physically become addicted. And that's what the sickness and sadness of addiction is all about.

And pot should not even be put in the same sentence. But always is, by the political cretans, who see it as monetary gain to do so. The same assholes with the "Reefer Madness" mentality, who have an agenda to keep any thought provoking drug, medication and ideas from being accepted in our capitalistic society...It's always political.

You sure aren't going to fuck up your body smoking some pot...but you sure as fuck will using legal drugs like alcohol, prescriptions and other illegal drugs, that they always lump together with pot, using the old stand by, FEAR as if all "illegal" drugs are exactly the same, but keep buying all the legal ones until you are so strung out and/or kill yourself.

They've been doing this same shit with pot for over seventy years and how many overdoses of pot have you heard about? These same assholes still refuse to see that yes, there are needs for pot as medicine, for many in pain diagnosed symptoms and illnesses. And you know the monetary and political reasons for that.

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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:05 AM
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33. Still do, and I am just fine
Smoked a ton in college, probably did mess up my emotional development a little but it is hard to nail down the source of things like that, so who really knows?

At 30, I smoke pretty regularly (some evenings, most weekends, NEVER at work) and I am doing pretty damn well.

I have a good relationship with a great guy, a comfortable home, and I love my job. I have good relationships with my immediate family. Life is good, with or wothout the ganja.

:smoke:
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:05 AM
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34. Still smoking after all these years...
And if my memory hasn't failed me yet, that would be 27 years of it (started at 15). Been up, been down. Been homeless, but am in a salary job w/banker's hours now.

I don't smoke ALL the time. I just smoke two joints in the morning. Then I smoke two joints in the evening. And I smoke two joints in the afternoon...

BUT NEVER, EVER AT DUSK!!!!

:smoke:


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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:08 AM
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36. It hasn't affected
I hasn't affect, hasn't affect, hasn't affect, hasn't affect, hasn't affected me at all!

BUT ALCOHOL AND TOBACCO IS LEGAL...yeah, and out government's movtives I'm sure are for the best interests of us all, NOT.

Lu
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:00 PM
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40. you forgot mid-early afternoon....
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:11 AM
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37. everybody did
i certainly did more than pot but drugs of hysteria can be used safely by some also

certainly i find the current outcry against meth amusing

its primary side effect for me being an increase in mis-spellings surely not a great sin in these days of spellcheckers

kids can experiment and come out OK

but they are highly unlikely to come out of jail or rehab OK, once you're labeled you're screwed

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stanwyck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:20 AM
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38. Just about everybody
in my group in college, my group after college, and my co-workers. Our group includes doctors, accountants, lawyers, teachers, and bankers. We show up for work every day. We've stayed married. We've raised families. We're that ideal the conservatives like to hold up for everybody else -- (except themselves).
And we're liberals who smoke pot.
Damn us.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 11:33 AM
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39. puff puff
Having tried the various drugs on offer... In order of danger
and damage they can do:

1. Lustful romantic love

2. Television

3. Hatred and cynicism

4. Unbridled egotism and self centeredness

5. Alcohol mixed with any of the above

Marijuana and the other plants don't even rate in the scale.
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:09 PM
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41. I smoked pot from high school in the '70s until a few years ago ...
... and the only effect it's had has been a short attention sp... hey! look at that butterfly! <giggle>
:crazy:
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JanMichael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:14 PM
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42. "Ok"? is a subjective term but if happily married and a good job counts...
...then I made it "OK".

No Crack or meth, thank you very much.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:17 PM
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44. One of our local ER docs smoked every day in college
And made it through medical school just fine. One of the nicest and most talented guys I know.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:18 PM
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45. Worry More About Alcohol..
or just mind your own damn biz. That's what I say. Parents need to act like parents and teach their own kids. It's really that simple. The demonization of marijuana is based on ignorance and paranoia.
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shrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:20 PM
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46. Christ, everyone I know has smoked pot
although none of us smokes it now. We all turned out all right, though our sanity is sometimes questionable.
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dissent1977 Donating Member (795 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:27 PM
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47. I honestly think that pot saved my life
I was extremely depressed in high school before I ever tried pot, and then once I started smoking it the depression went away for the most part. I don't smoke much anymore, but I am sure glad I did in my past.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:42 PM
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49. I experimented with it for a few years (late 1970's-early 1980's)
and on a couple of occasions tried hashish.

While I did experience the highs many people wax rhapsodic about, there were 2 downsides for me:

1) Bad case of munchies - especially if you're trying to watch your weight.

2) Bad breath the day after - like smoking regular cigarettes (and I've NEVER had those!)

But no, I never felt any desire to do hard stuff like cocaine, heroin, or speed.


:shrug:
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OnionPatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:50 PM
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50. Just about everyone I know.
A few of them continue to smoke recreationally and are some of the most successful people I know. One started a company twenty years ago, has managed it all this time while imbibing on weekends, and is a millionaire now.

A few of them overdid it from time to time without too much fallout. Certainly not the kind of fallout I've seen in alcoholics.
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YapiYapo Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:51 PM
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51. The question should be...
"Who smoked some pot and didn't turned out ok?"

After 20 years of study, the California Attorney General's panel concluded in 1989 that "an objective consideration shows that cannabis is responsible for less damage to the individual and society than alcohol and cigarettes." The U. S. Shafer Commission Report, one of the most comprehensive studies ever done on the subject, found that cannabis smokers "tend to be under-represented" in violent crime, "especially when compared to users of alcohol, amphetamines and barbiturates." The simple fact is that cannabis does not change your basic personality. The claims of marijuana dangerousness do not hold up. Over the years, the same conclusions have been reached by numerous official commissions, including the LaGuardia Commission in 1944, the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse in 1972, the National Academy of Sciences in 1972, the National Academy of Sciences in 1982, and, in 1999, the Institute of Medicine. The federal government reports that tens of millions of Americans have smoked it - - possibly including some of the nicest people you know.

http://www.cleartest.com/testinfo/not_the_bad_guy.html
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:51 PM
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52. Early pot smoking did lead to KNOWING users of other substances.
Junk, coke & meth, for example. (No, children, meth is NOT new.) However, these folks were NOT good advertisements for their substances of choice. I never thought: "Hey, being a junkie looks like fun!"

Alcohol still wins the prize for damaging the most people. And it goes so well with other drugs.

A glass of wine (or pint of stout) for me. A bit of smoke on occasion. And where did all the mushrooms go?
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Tracer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 12:56 PM
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53. I smoked some in my younger days ...
... and all it did was make me feel sleepy, slow and stupid.

I can do that all by myself.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:07 PM
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55. come now...marijuana is a proven gateway drug...
to cheetos!

Anyway, as far as statistics go, I seem to recall seeing a statistic some time ago that indicated that pot smoking, statistically, IS normal behavior. So there.
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Scout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:19 PM
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59. tried other drugs after trying pot ... alcohol was the first thing I tried
I didn't like alcohol at all when I tried it as a teen. Still don't like beer or wine to this day, but I do like some mixed drinks. I have no desire whatsoever to try crack, heroine, Ecstasy

I started smoking pot when I was about 20, not very often as I couldn't afford it and because I was in college. I tried other drugs too, after college ... cocaine, LSD, mushrooms, hash. Didn't like LSD or mushrooms, cocaine was all right but I always wanted to smoke a joint afterward. I haven't used anything except marijuana for many years now, and don't miss them. I would like some hash again sometime, to smoke with my pot.

I've been smoking pretty regularly for 25 years now. I've suspended use a few times, when I was job hunting, to pass the stupid drug test that is required. I'd still rather smoke pot than drink alcohol, although I do drink sometimes.

I've never sold any of my possessions to buy pot, never not paid the bills so I could buy pot, never traded sex for drugs.

I think you're the NORML.
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:21 PM
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60. It took me being in the Army to first try pot
But yeah, I smoked some weed, never did anything else or had the inclination to.

I think I turned out ok.
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:23 PM
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61. Still OK.
Well, the old short term is shaky but that could be aging.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:28 PM
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62. What was the question again?
No really, I'm okay. I have friends who took it too far an developed a
problem though.
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:38 PM
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64. Personally I believe it should not be illegal.
Alcohol does more damage to the body than a few whiffs & tokes. It certainly even has medicinal properties that alleviate some side effects of very serious illnesses., I guess I turned out ok.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:21 PM
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68. I agree. Having seen several friends go through chemo it is ridiculous
to deny a natural relaxation and anti-nausea medication from sick and dying people.

and hey...I smoke it sometimes and I'm OK.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:34 PM
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70. I agree.
I smoked a lot of pot as a teenager,and drank a lot of alcohol as a young adult.I always made a LOT bigger error judgements on alcohol...
On the other hand,as a nurse,I have seen a lot of patients helped by marijuana(and not that synthetic shit).
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peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:28 PM
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80. I congratulate you and all nurses & medical professionals.
such a stellar career. Thanks for your service. You must be constantly focused on your child in Iraq. My best wishes there, also.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 01:40 PM
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65. Didn't do a thing for me
Pot just didn't do much for me when I tried it. I think it should be legal, too...thanks to DU for the education :)

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Ariana Celeste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:15 PM
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66. My brother used to beat the crap out of me.
On an almost daily basis he would beat me up. Dude had some serious anger problems. Nobody could figure out why, and his dad ridiculed the idea of him seeing a counselor.
Then my brother started smoking pot, and never laid a finger on me again. We started getting along great and have a wonderful relationship now that many siblings don't have. We hung out with the same crowd, went out and did things together, and now that I'm living in a different state we can talk on the phone for hours. In highschool there were a ton of people who were just shocked that a brother and sister could not only get along, but hang out. I thought it was hilarious.

I discovered speed before I started smoking pot. Mini-thins and other similar, stronger pills. That only cost a few bucks. Little packages for $1. I loved that shit. I started smoking a lot of pot later on after I quit popping those pills. But I missed that buzz. Later on I discovered coke and meth. Neither of which were like the pills, they were better. Completely different from eachother, yet still gave that euphoric, "everything is beautiful and I'm on the level" feeling. I loved the hell out of both. Never went too far. I did my experimenting and moved on, and I won't touch either ever again. Not because I was letting them control me (I obviously didn't or I would still be doing them), not because they were too expensive, not because they got in the way of living life, but because, I got what I wanted out of it and decided to move on, simple as that.

A lot of people can do that. All it takes is a little willpower. Then there are others who go too far. But as far as I'm concerned they would go too far, drugs or no drugs. There are just plain irresponsible people in life, and it doesn't matter what they have in front of them to smoke, drink, snort, etc. They could be that way without drugs, too.

Still smoke now and again, but not like I used to. I love it, but since I started smoking cigarettes again it just makes my lungs feel funny. And that's the fault of my cigarette habit, nothing more, nothing less. Pot is the safest drug out there. It's not for everybody, but it's safer than anything else you could put your hands on. Relieves stress, helps you breathe better, helps with pain. It's calming.

Anyways. If somebody wants a different kind of buzz, it doesn't matter if they smoke pot or not, they will search for that different buzz. Some people just like to alter their mental state in different ways.
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:18 PM
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67. I smoked pot.
The turned out OK thing depends on who you ask... :P
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Democracy White Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:33 PM
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69. I smoked the other day...
mainly because I was curious if it would really take away the pain that I suffer from due to FM. My back was spasming bad that day and I was with a friend who had some on her. I puffed and I will tell you that it did take the pain away for a while and I felt more relaxed and confident than I ever had in my life. I really am thinking about using MJ to help control my FM and mental disorders.
The MJ didn't have me feeling loopy or tired like the meds that I am currently on which I feel are no longer doing shit for me.

I don't have any sudden urges to try heroin or coke or any of the "hard drugs"

BTW my mom tells me that there was a book called "The Marijuana Papers" that got banned here in the US. Does anyoune know if it and where I can get a copy?

Dee
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:38 PM
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71. Not Me...I'm damaged!! HAHAHAHAHA
Edited on Mon Aug-01-05 02:38 PM by LeftHander
I turned into one those damn rock musician, skater, liberal, artist types that make conservative goons angry cause I have SO FUCKING MUCH FUN living life....

http://soul-amp.com

iPodsters! - Podcast URL: http://feeds.feedburner.com/SoulAmp

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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:40 PM
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72. Graduated High School in '77
Virtually the entire senior class smoked the Herb Superb.

In my social groups all throughout life, almost all the folks I've met have smoked or continue to smoke it. I've smoked with politicians, lawyers, teachers, doctors, accountants, cops, mothers, fathers, preachers and farmers.

I've smoked with Republicans and Democrats, thieves and millionaires, people with houses as neat as pins and people who couldn't find their sofas under all the mess. I've smoked with the highly successful and driven and with the mediocre and unmotivated.

It's like asking: Have you ever eaten an Oreo? Are you overweight now? Did the Oreo provide a gateway to cheesecake and Twinkies?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:40 PM
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73. I know many, including myself in the past, who have.
Nope, no damage whatsoever from this beneficial plant.

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 02:43 PM
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75. Pot cured my anorexia
I'm not "OK" by most people's standards, but I'm alive and maintaining a healthy weight, and that counts to me.
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:20 PM
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77. I tried everything ...
now I just smoke a little herb. Don't even drink anymore.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:21 PM
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78. I smoked it on Saturday night
ANd I'm fine... however I did end up in bed MUCH earlier
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-01-05 08:23 PM
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79. My first drug was LSD.. then hashish and later I discovered pot..
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dean_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:30 PM
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81. Sure, I smoked pot.
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 02:38 PM by dean_dem
Worst thing I ever did on it was eat four twinkies in one sitting. Oh, and an Eagles song came on the radio once where I might have said "Eh, they're not so bad."

Of course, I've been up for 3 days on a crack binge, so what do I know?
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stevans_41902 Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:49 PM
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82. This thread reminds me of my rightwing friend who gets completely
trashed every weekend on alcohol but thinks mj is the devil. I have only smoked marajuana around 6 times in my life (mostly because all of my friends are more into drinking- would definately be up to trying it again, though) and only twice did i feel any effects whatsoever. It must have been some bad weed or something. Anyway, my RW friend asked me the other night if I had ever smoked pot and when I told him I had he started going on about how horrible it is. I told him how many more people have died from drinking alcohol and people have died from taking ADHD medication like Aderall (he takes that to keep awake sometimes.) He said pot makes people poor and homeless and turns them into lazy bums. I hate how the Repukes demonize pot but they see nothing wrong with alcohol, cigarettes, prescription pills, etc. I think its more the perceived lifestyle that scares them more than what the drug actually does to people.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:57 PM
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83. I graduated high school in 1968...
Pot? You mean maryjane? Reefer? The demon weed? Weeeelll, maybe - just a time or two, mind. And yes, I inhaled. But even back then I was so aware of the dangers of second-hand smoke that I tried not to exhale...

And yes, I turned out just fine. Well, maybe not totally "fine" by the corporatist crypto-fascist definition of the term. I was left with a permanent case of anti-authoritarian outrage and an inability to drink KoolAid...
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Chemical Bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:58 PM
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84. I used to do it all the time.
I'd never get anything done. And I was really stupid, I had no clue what was going on in the world. I was lazy, and always snacking. So I quit cold-turkey. Now I am always busy with projects, or reading good, intense non-fiction books like Gary Webb's. I exercise more, and get out to see local historical sites.

So no, I don't watch any more TV. Oh, this is about pot? Never mind.;)

Bill
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