Bush Installs Bolton, Angering Democrats - Right! And?

[Kelvin Mace]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050801/ap_on_go_pr_wh/un_ambassador_21;_ylt=Ak9FCMLbkCT_1yG_T6fJkQBqP0AC;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

That headline slays me.

OK, I am in a foul mood, so those with delicate sensibilities may want to pass by.

Exactly what do the Dems intend to do?

Nothing.

Oh, they make statements like this:

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), D-Mass., called the appointment "shameful and irresponsible." Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada called Bolton "seriously flawed and weakened." Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., said Bolton was a man who "bullies, marginalizes and undermines those who do not agree with him."

And that means exactly.... NOTHING!

Bolton lied on a sworn affidavit and presented the lie to the Judiciary Committee. This is called PERJURY! But will the Vichy Dems hand it over to the US Attorney and demand prosecution?

Hell no!

They'll just sit around and whine "diplomatically". But they'll never use words like "liar", "thug", or "sexual pervert". That wouldn't be "civil".

They'll just bow down before Bush and continue to massage his prostate with their tongues.

After all, why should they care? Their jobs are safe. They collect $140,000+ a year of OUR money, plus generous pension and health benefits. Then they get about a cool million a piece to hire a staff to wait on them hand and foot. And if voter's are too goddamned stupid to see them for what they are, well that the VOTER'S fault, not their's.

So, why rock boat. Bush gets what he wants, they get a nice job. All they have to do is PRETEND to care.

And when they get tired of the "peanuts" they make in D.C., they can get jobs as lobbyists making twice as much money.

Am I pissed? Fuck yeah!

OK, I am going to go pet my cat now before my blood pressure hits a new high.

[Gabi Hayes]

1. ''continue to massage his prostate with their tongues.''

Bolton could take em all down to Plato's Retreat for everybody to watch

couldn't agree more with what you have to say.....I've been calling that bunch the Achordate Party for some time

did you see the article about how they kept Richard Holbrooke on hold for FOURTEEN MONTHS, and he refused to accept a recess appointment?

[Ruffhowse]

2. I am sad to say your reaction is right on.

[MuseRider]

3. My local news just did that

story just like that. The funny part of it is that it followed a story on bullying. I wonder................no, this is Kansas. They just didn't get the same connection there that I did.

[rniel]

4. Yes once again

It's the Democrats. Pretending to be angry about something they will do nothing about. Democrats are a bunch of beat down abused dogs. They may bark now and then at noises in the night but when their republican masters come out the door to shut them up they all scatter and cower in the corner. yipe yipe yipe.....

Am I jaded and bitter. Oh a tad.

[Kelvin Mace]

6. And if you express and interest in running for office

as soon as they discover that you are NOT going to play the game and be all nice, dress in a suit and play the game, they won't let you run.

The Dems need vicious attack dogs who will sink their TEETH into conservatives and worry them like a shark.

The CLOSEST thing we have right now is Hackett in Ohio.

I wish I lived there and could vote for him. Any man who calls Geroge Bush a "son of a bitch" IN PUBLIC is a man we need in congress.

[FreedomAngel82]

49. Exactly

Look at how they are treating Paul Hackett. He needs to be in the Senate. I hope he makes it tomorrow and in two years go for the Senate. We need someone with balls.

[Disturbed]

10. A silver lining?

If Bolton is indicted by Fiz. there is no Diplo Immunity.

Drip, drip, drip on the heads of the Middle Class. Millions are starting to realize it's not rain but piss from the Bush Regime. Will their heads explode soon? Maybe the Shrub's veto of Stem Cell Research will be the last drop they will endure?

[FreedomAngel82]

50. I don't know

Most of the public I believe is for stem cell research. Of course for some fucked up reason Bush is still appeasing to the fundies in the party. Why? I have no idea. I guess they think they are the voters when they really just stole both elections. Maybe the democrats know something we don't with Bolton and Fitzgerald? :shrug:

[merh]

5. What the fuck can dems do?

The blocked him in the senate - what do you expect them to do now? Just wondering :shrug:

[Nightwing]

7. Amen!!

And :kick:

They blocked Bolton and I dont see a damn thing they can do to stop this bull shit appointment by Dictator *

The only thing I would encourage Dem leadership to do is take * and his cronies to the woodshed time and time again for this outrage.

[Kelvin Mace]

11. At least they can speak the truth about Bolton

and stop with the wussified language.

Situation:

George Bush walks onto the Wihte House lawn and beats a puppy to death with a kitten.

Harry Reid would express his "regret" at the president's attitude toward animal welfare. Or if he was

*REALLY*

mad, his "deep regrets".

[LittleClarkie]

20. They did

Don't you remember what the Foreign Relation Committee Dems did. They raised holy hell. I was proud of them.

You can bet that Kerry, Boxer, Dodd and even Biden do more than "regret" Bolton's appointment.

[Kelvin Mace]

32. Really?

I can't recall a single Dem calling him a liar. Especially not the likes of Joe Biden (a wholly-owned subsidiary of MBNA) or John "Even-if-I-had-known-Bush-was-lyin'-about-Iraq-I-would-have-voted-the-same-way" Kerry.

Maybe Boxer, but I haven't seen it.

[LittleClarkie]

34. If you haven't seen

then you weren't lookin'.

I'll see what I can dig up. Promise to keep your eyes open this time?

[Kelvin Mace]

37. I give credit where credit is do

I do not give credit for:

"Mr. Bolton's statement is at odds with..."
"Mr. Bolton's statement is not consistant with..."

etc.

Full marks given for:

"Mr. Bolton has lied to this committee..."
"Mr. Bolton is a liar..."

etc.

[FreedomAngel82]

51. Is there a video of this?

I'd love to see.

[Kelvin Mace]

8. Refer him for prosecution for perjury!

At the very least call him what he IS:

A lying, bullying, sexual pervert.

[merh]

16. Refer him to who for prosecution for perjury?

Conduct what hearings?

:shrug:

[Kelvin Mace]

25. The US Attorney for D.C. or straight to the Justice Dept

Yes, they are Bush controlled, but hell, you do what is right. They are not even bothering to TRY.

You make it clear to the public exactly what kind of man Bush likes.

[merh]

29. They did make it clear to the public, during the hearings.

They are still trying to get documentation relative to Bolton, documention which the WH refuses to release. The corporate media whores refuse to cover the scandals of this admin the way they should, the way they used to handle the news.

Gonzales, the torturer, to investigate Bolton. Okay, sure.

[Kelvin Mace]

33. They have a document in their hands that proves he lied

and as I said, it probably wouldn't get an indictment, but at least they would have stood up and called him a liar.

Sad to be so craven that you won't call a war criminal a war criminal or a liar a liar.

[merh]

36. I agree with you, however, I don't see the solution as simple as

you try to make it.

They did stand up to the weed and blocked the evil appointment. The recess appointment just happened today, now we must see what they will do. I think letters to our congress critters are in order. We need to scream and rant as loud as we can about this.

[Kelvin Mace]

38. They will do nothing

since the issue is, to them, moot.

They figure that when Bolton's comes back up, they'll oppose him.

Not the same thing. They should make sure that the word "liar" becomes his middle name between now and then.

This is the tactic that the Right uses. The difference is, they do so with lies. Our side can't manage it with the truth.

[merh]

40. Well, if you take that attitude, then why should they do anything.

You are a grown man, begin a campaign that will not allow them to sit silent and do nothing. Begin an effort to make your concerns be heard. Or would you rather just sit and whine.

I for one know that we made them act in January, if they know the majority of folks care, they will do something. Maybe you want to put your angry energies in to doing more than just bitching.

[Kelvin Mace]

46. I love how you make me "the whiner"

when they are the ones who have done damn little but whine.

I have done my part, thank you. Are you telling me I must be an elected official before I am allowed an opinion on this board?

Is it know illegal to blow off steam unless the person is ready to go out and solve the problem themselves?

[merh]

52. Well, maybe we have let them do damned little.

We have enabled them. We have to force them to act, just like we did in January. We have to organized focused efforts to all of the dems in congress insisting they do something. We have to empower them.

Blow off steam all you like, taking some positive action would be much more beneficial to you and the nation, but that is just an opinion. Have fun ranting without purpose.

[immoderate]

53. I agree with Merh.

The Dems have blocked him. They forced Bush into making a rash move. This will wear away at his armor. Bolton is a stigma. He will not wear well.

Fitzgerald will have the goods out in two months. then there will be a lot to shout about. And there will be a splash back.

I have long thought that a Bolton in the UN will be a great discredit to Bush.

--IMM

[merh]

58. Bolton at the UN gives the dems the weapon they need to pound

the admin. I haven't given up yet. Not yet.

:patriot:

[immoderate]

60. There are still those who might be convinced of Bush's malfeassance...

and vicious malignance. Bolton is exhibit A. He is rubbing their noses in it. Perhaps they will notice.

--IMM

[merh]

61. Agreed.

:thumbsup:

[Zorra]

23. Start publicly denouncing this fascist cabal for the fascist cabal that it

is, and call for a general strike among all non-republicans in order to shut down the country and save democracy in the US.

Tell the plain truth about what is really going on.

This would be far better than the present fascist dictatorship which was brought about by undemocratic electoral and criminal manipulations, and better than a future dictated by permanent fascist republican ownership and control of the our voting process and hence our government.

Democracy in America is dead, and Bu*h and his fascists cohorts killed it.

It is time everyone admitted the obvious: We are never going to regain a democratic government on the national level through democratic processes, because they no longer exist in the US. Until electronic voting is outlawed, fascists will be in control of our country.

Other measures are now necessary and we need a strong, vocal, visible leadership to unite us behind the banner of removing the criminal cabal from power, indicting and imprisoning them, and restoring genuine transparent democratic processes.

[merh]

28. Oh, and how do they publically do that when the corporate media

whores ignore them?

I know what you are saying and I am honestly asking, what the hell can the dems do?

They don't control either house, so they cannot call for hearings. They can do like Conyers did about election fraud and hold hearings that are not covered by the media and that are ignored by the masses. Then there was the DSM hearings, held in the basement and again, ignored.

Refer for prosecution, you mean prosecution by the same fellow that wrote the torture memos?

I am serious when I ask, what the fuck can the dems do?

[Kelvin Mace]

35. The media wouldn't ignore them

The media would put it all over the place. And the right-wing echo chamber would kick in. So what? A good portion of this country is sick of politicians who REFUSE to speak the truth.

If politicians won't stand up for themselves, why should the press.

As long as we make excuses for senators and congressman they will keep behaving this way.

Look what happened with Boxer? When she saw the voters had her back, she started telling the truth. Did it change anything? No, because the rest of the senate pussed out. But when it comes time for re-election, we have to make sure that Boxer and Conyers KNOW we support them with our DOLLARS!

Again, why should the press pay attention for folks who won't stand up for themselves?

Conyers and Boxer are a START!

[merh]

39. The media has ignored anything that the dems have done.

What did you see relative to the DSM televised by the corporate media whores?

Accepting the realities that are make it easier to deal with things and find a means to publicize the outrage. To deny the complicity of the corporate media whores is a failure to accept the truth about just how corrupt the admin and their media whores are.

[Kelvin Mace]

54. I do NOT deny

the media whores their role.

I am asking one and ONLY one thing of these people about Bolton.

Speak the truth.

The man is a liar. Call him one.

You tell me this can't be done.

I should accept reality?

Fine. This country is finished.

[Mr_Spock]

64. Shut the fucking government down.

Until these sonofafuckingbitches take responsibility for the crimes and misdemeanors they have committed, there is no reason to continue with the business of government.

[Dragonfli]

9. Our Representative To The World....

...As Seen By The World:



I am embarrassed AND angry!

[Kelvin Mace]

12. A man who lacks the sense to dye his moustache

as well as his hair.

[Dragonfli]

14. Someone should ask his "lifestyle" friends about the "other hair".

May already be a private joke at the sex club for all we know.

[merh]

18. I am too, we have to see what the UN has to say about this.

They may not agree to this appointment. Don't they have some say in this?

[Kelvin Mace]

26. They are full of the same mealy-mouthed

pussies as the senate.

Every time you kow-tow to a bully, you re-enfocre the bully's behaviour.

[merh]

30. Every nation that is a part of the UN has mealy mouthed reps?

I agree with you about kow-towing to a bully. I agree with how vile Bolton is.

Maybe the UN will not give in this time. I know that is what I am praying happens.

[immoderate]

55. Ha! Caught you praying!

I'm gonna report that.

Just kidding.

--IMM

[merh]

57. ROFLMAO

Sorry, I didn't mean to get caught! :rofl:

[immoderate]

59. Sometimes no other word expresses that feeling.

I know.

--IMM

[Donailin]

42. Kofi Anan is pretty much like

"bring it on" -- he has 190 other ambassadors to contend with, it aint like Bolton will be the boss.

we'll see.

[Donailin]

45. deleted

accidentally replied to myself. I'm an idiot.

[merh]

62. You mean the USofA ain't the only country in the UN?

:shrug:

[MsConduct]

13. I'm so SICK and TIRED of all the fat ass fat cats in Washington

whining and bitching and moaning about everything and doing ABSOLUTELY nothing about anything! What are we paying them for? Is whining part of the job description? Why did we vote for any of them? Next time my voting strategy will to vote against every incumbent on the ballot.....Well, that's if voting will continue to be an option. F 'EM All!

:grr:

:banghead:

AND SCREAMING BLOODY MURDER.

[In Truth We Trust]

15. Damn Straight partner- Enough is enough!!!!!!!!

[LSparkle]

17. I completely agree

They ought to be out there threatening holy hell on Roberts -- how many of these monarchal "appointments" are we going to take before we stand up and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH????

Please God let Paul Hackett win -- we DO need more people brave enough to SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER (hey, Dems, remember that one?) in Congress.

[Kelvin Mace]

31. Look at Roberts

it is OBVIOUS to anyone with an IQ higher than a box of mentally retarded cake mix that Roberts is a neo-con, but folks like Hilary Clinton have already made noises about voting for him.

Reid and company made a bunch of noise about how they would tie the senate up into knots if the fillibuster was eliminated.

News flash: THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE THE DAY BUSH WAS SWORN IN WITH THE HELP OF THE SUPREME COURT!!

Hell, i have never called him "president" in almost five damn years, because he isn't.

Bush pissed on the constitution and the Dems have done nothing substantial to oppose him. Hell, they are fighting over who gets to shake his penis for him.

[LittleClarkie]

19. What did you want them to do. Hire a hit man?

They did all they could legally. They filibustered him. They made it so that Bush had to recess install him, which makes him damaged goods.

Short of setting the man on fire or otherwise making him disappear, what EXACTLY would you propose they do.

Why not get pissed at the one who just HAD to have Bolton? Bush. Get pissed at Bush.

The Democrats fought well on this one. I am proud of them. Bush did the one thing they couldn't prevent. But they made sure Bolton looked like a piece of shit first.

[Kelvin Mace]

41. See my comments above

I AM pissed at Bush. But I am tired of our side being "polite" because they believe they must "preserve the decorum of the senate".

Play time is over. This is a knife fight for the future of this country. There are no rules. And while I do not advocate hitting below the belt, the Marqui of Queensbury can jolly well stuff his rules.

No matter how many times you are knocked to the canvas, the first thing you do is spit in their face when you get up.

Hell, all I am asking them to do is SPEAK THE TRUTH.

What is so hard about that?

[Rex]

21. This is what happens when one party controls everything.

Dems are lucky when the Repukes allow them a committee room in Congress or a working microphone.

Repukes gave a clear message right after 911 when they sent anthrax to the Dem leaders in Congress. What did the Repuke FBI do? Nada, nothing, squat. Now Dems suffer from Stockholm syndrome and agree with everything the terrorists (Bush & crew) demand from them.

I feel your anger and sympathize with you.

[rainman99]

22. I'm not angry. This just proves our point. Bush is and idiot

and likes to surround himself with idiots.

[journalist3072]

24. Here's what I would have liked the Dems to do....

They should have told Shrub that if he recess appointed Bolton they would put a hold on John G. Roberts' nomination to the SC.

As simple as that.

[bearfan454]

27. They need to fuck over bush on Roberts.

Filibuster

[journalist3072]

44. Ding, ding! We have a winner!

Totally agree!

[Kelvin Mace]

48. Absolutely!!!!!

There you go.

Appoint Bolton and the Roberts nomination is dead until January.

[journalist3072]

56. Or possibly past January...

If I understand correctly a Senator can put a hold on a nomination for as long as they want to.

Hillary Clinton had placed a hold on the EPA Administrator's nomination for a time, because she was asking the Administration for some info, and they ignored her request.

She eventually removed the hold; but I think any Senator can place a hold on a nomination for as long as they want.

[Baclava]

43. ...and?...and?...nothing...

You are correct to be pissed. Nothing will happen.

[FreedomAngel82]

47. I know how you feel

We need SOMEONE who has balls. Where's Barbara Boxer? Why isn't she raising hell? Or how about John Kerry? Where's the 1970's Kerry? We need him.

[LittleClarkie]

63. Somewhere on vacation, swearing like the sailor he is

strictly off the record, of course.