Now I'm actually worried about Clark.

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Clark supporters but tell me that everything has been refuted.

Why do they refuse to put my mind at ease?

This is a respost of a wonderful compilation by another DU'er

This post caused me to be concerned about Clark and If a Clark supporter can refute them It would make me happy.

But I see post after post saying that they have already been refuted. I and others have asked for links to those posts or for direct explanations. Nothing.

So, I'm still worried about Clark.







Is this why he was being so..."coy" during the entire time he was being quote/unquote "drafted" by a "grass-roots" movement co-founded by both Republicans and Democrats and backed by the DLC/NDN?

Thursday, September 18, 2003

Speaking on May 11, 2001, as the keynote speaker to the Pulaski County Republican Party's Lincoln Day Dinner, Clark said that American involvement abroad helps prevent war and spreads the ideals of the United States, according to an AP dispatch the following day.

Two weeks later, a report in U.S. News and World Report said Arkansas Republican politicos were "pondering the future of Wesley Clark:" "Insiders say Clark, who is a consultant for Stephens Group in Little Rock, is preparing a political run as a Republican. Less clear: what office he'd campaign for. At a recent Republican fund-raiser, he heralded Ronald Reagan's Cold War actions and George Bush's foreign policy. He also talked glowingly of current President Bush's national security team. Absent from the praise list -- his former boss, ex-Commander in Chief Bill Clinton."

Clark told CNN's Judy Woodruff earlier this month that he had decided to register as a Democrat. Left unsaid and unknown at this point is exactly when and why he decided to become a Democrat.

http://www.politicsus.com/front%20page%20archive/091803.html


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I have YET to see any Clark supporter give an acceptable explanation for his quotes praising the same people we've been fighting for three years and are so desperate to get out of office (see Ref 1). Just how many people support Clark because of those quotes? Never once did even a die-hard DLCer like Lieberman say that Rummy and Perle and Wolfie were great guys and yet some people expect us to crucify proven Democrats with a track record we can scrutinize and weigh while we give a blank check to a man with very unsettling past and current associations such as Jackson Stephens, CSIS, the Markle Foundation, and Axciom (recently big time in the news for the Jet Blue scandal where they sold the personal information of all Jet Blue passengers to the government).
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I'm no longer expecting a good explanation of those quotes anymore because this revelation is the final nail in the coffin. What I'm seeing here is nothing more than a "desperate marriage of convenience" between the DLC and a man who until recently was heaping gushing praise on Bush and his gang but couldn't get the Republicans interested in running him.

The Clark campaign is playing us like Leftist fools simply because Carl Rove didn't return Clark's call. The DLC is playing us like Leftist fools simply because their golden boy doesn't have a chance in hell and they know it. These boys are not going gently into the night- not without a good fight and this is no time for Democrats to shut their eyes and fall for platitudes and good marketing. If the PNAC machine isn't stopped immediately, you can expect endless wars and occupations for which your children will be drafted and many around the world will die.

As Zorra put it here:

What he will probably do is promote some liberal domestic policies, such as a better health care agenda, affirmative action, pro choice policy, a better education policy, and a more reasonable domestic economic policy than the current misadministration.

However, he will continue to expand multi-national corporate military and economic colonialism, and will not do anything about corporate control of the US government. Multi-nationals don't care about the domestic policies or political ideologies of semi-sovereign nations as long as they do not interfere with long term globalist agendas of global market expansion and profit motivated imperialism.

In other words a scarier version of what we have now. A version as a Rhoades scholar. A scarier version with a brain.

I'll check this thread later- I'll be out in the streets for today's protest- protesting Bush, his wars, and everyone that enables them.

Peace to people of good will.

Ref1 ((Words we've been advised to just "skip over"- just like Condeleeza Rice's 16 words))

That's the kind of president Ronald Reagan was. He helped our country win the Cold War. He put it behind us in a way no one ever believed would be possible. He was truly a great American leader. And those of us in the Armed Forces loved him, respected him and tremendously admired him for his great leadership.

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Desert Storm was wonderful; we whipped Saddam Hussein and all that sort of thing. But the Cold War was over, the Berlin Wall was down. And President George Bush had the courage and the vision to push our European allies to take the risk to tell the Russians to leave, and to set up the conditions so all of Germany and later many nations of Eastern Europe could become part of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, part of the West with us. And we will always be grateful to President George Bush for that tremendous leadership and statesmanship.


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And then I was tapped to go back--as one senator explained it to me, she said: "You don't want to go over there and fight Bill Clinton's war in the Balkans, do you?" And I said, "Well, Senator, the honest truth is that when you're a soldier, you march to the sound of the guns. That's your duty, and that's--they tell me to do it, that's what I'm going to do."

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You see, in the Cold War we were defensive. We were trying to protect our country from communism. Well guess what, it's over. Communism lost. Now we've got to go out there and finish the job and help people live the way they want to live. We've got to let them be all they can be. They want what we have. We've got some challenges ahead in that kind of strategy. We're going to be active, we're going to be forward engaged. But if you look around the world, there's a lot of work to be done. And I'm very glad we've got the great team in office: men like Colin Powell, Don Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, Condolzeezza Rice, Paul O'Neill--people I know very well--our president, George W. Bush. We need them there, because we've got some tough challenges ahead in Europe.

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http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110004065

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"Of the people who are running this war, from Vice President Dick Cheney and Defense Secretary Don Rumsfeld and Powell on down, in terms of the political appointees, are there are any who you particularly like who you would work with again, hypothetically, in some ..." ((what's the understood word there? Administration???))

Clark:

"I like all the people who are there. I've worked with them before. I was a White House Fellow in the Ford administration when Secretary Rumsfeld was White House chief of staff and later Secretary of Defense, and Dick Cheney was the deputy chief of staff at the White House and later the chief.

Paul Wolfowitz I've known for many, many years. Steve Hadley at the White House is an old friend. Doug Feith I worked with very intensively during the time we negotiated the Dayton Peace Agreement; he was representing the Bosnian Muslims then, along with Richard Perle. So I like these people a lot. They're not strangers. They're old colleagues. ((Awesome! The entire PNAC crowd!))

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But the views that President Bush espoused recently at the American Enterprise Institute, if his predecessor had espoused that view he'd have been hooted off the stage, laughed at, accused of being incredibly idealistic about the hard-nosed practical politics of the Middle East. So this is an administration that's moving in a certain direction, and now that that's the direction they've picked they've got to make it work. Like everybody else, I hope they'll be successful. It's too important; we can't afford to fail. ((WHO IS EVERYONE HERE??))

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http://archive.salon.com/news/feature/2003/03/24/clark

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From Wayne Madsen's article Wesley Clark for President?
Another Con Job from the Neo-Cons:

More interestingly is how General Clark's Bosnia strategy ultimately goes full circle. According to Washington K Street sources, the law firm that established the Bosnia Defense Fund was none other than Feith and Zell, the firm of current Pentagon official and leading neo-con Douglas Feith. Feith's operation at Feith and Zell was assisted by his one-time boss and current member of Rumsfeld's Defense Policy Board, Richard Perle. Both Feith and Perle advised the Bosnian delegation during the 1995 Dayton Peace talks. The chief U.S. military negotiator in Dayton was Wesley Clark.

http://thomasmc.com/0919b.htm


Ref 2
Last January, at a conference in Switzerland, he happened to chat with two prominent Republicans, Colorado Gov. Bill Owens and Marc Holtzman, now president of the University of Denver. “I would have been a Republican,” Clark told them, “if Karl Rove had returned my phone calls.” Soon thereafter, in fact, Clark quit his day job and began seriously planning to enter the presidential race—as a Democrat.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/969659.asp?0sl=-10&cp1=1