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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:06 AM
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Ten Most Harmful Government Programs (WARNING: Link to Freaker Site)
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 10:35 AM by maxrandb
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1455313/posts

Well the National Conservative Weekly has come out with it's list of the 10 Most Harmful Government Programs. I'll list them here with some of the comments, but the whole thing is way too long to post here. You can read it at the link.

In their tiny little minds, if we just did away with these harmful programs, we'd all be living in Utopia. You won't be surprised to find that corporate tax give-aways, drug and gun company shielding from lawsuits for malfeasance, and government subsidies to the ultra-wealthy are not listed.

Here's their top 10 list of harmful programs:

1. Internal Revenue Code
2. Social Security
3. Medicare
4. Tax Withholding
5. Medicade
6. Endangered Species Act
7. Bilingual Education Grants
8. Title X Family Planning Fund
9. Corporation for Public Broadcasting (seriously CBP is #9!!)
10. Sugar Import Quotas and Subsidies

Here are some "lowlights" from the "Dishonorabe Mention List

Title IX
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
Davis-Bacon Act
Violence Against Woman Act
U.S. Postal Service
American With Disabilities Act

My Favorite Freaker Comment so far:

"If anyone would have told me that all these "programs" would be still be sucking the life blood out of our economy today, back in November of 1994, I'd have punched them in the mouth.

Ending these programs is why we worked so hard and dug so deep to elect a republican government.

Look what they have done, and what they have failed to do."

my message to the freakers, and I mean it most sincerely

I can't understand why you Freaks don't leave America. If it's as screwed up as you say, then "get the hell out"
"America, Love it, or Leave It Freakers"
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:10 AM
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1. I would love to take this list, and go through the lives of every freeper
And show them just exactly how much they benefit from these programs. I don't think they have a clue as to how much they and their loved ones benefit from them, and by the time they do, it will be too late.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:13 AM
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2. "why these people don't leave America"
What people? The Post Office? Social Security recipients?

I'm not going anywhere. I have a right to be here. If the writer thinks this country sucks because of civil rights, he is free to move to the dictatorship of his choice.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:17 AM
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3. With any luck
if things contibue as they are these creeps will be living in a dictatorship. Then they'll find out if it is of their choice.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:34 AM
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6. To Clarify
The "Why Don't These People Leave America" qoute was from me, in response to the Freaker comment.

I seriously wonder why they stay here, when obviously, everything the United States Government has done offends them so much.

I'll try to edit my original post if it's not too late.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:18 AM
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4. All this time that was screwing up my life!
I WISH my 10th biggest problem was sugar quotas. Cause the price of sugar is just breaking me right now!

The US Post Office?! Most rural freepers are too fucking dumb to realize they wouldn't have mail, electricity, a telephone etc etc without the government.

Tax withholding is bad? I guess if you just want a huge tax bill at the end of the year and no way to pay it then it's bad. I think it's much better to pay ad you go and get a small refund at the end of the year.

I could rant about most of the others but the above 3 were most rant worthy. I will say that I might somewhat agree with them on Bilingual education grants and I'm not familiar with title X.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:40 AM
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8. Title X is Family Planning
to provide education on contraceptives and reducing unwanted pregnancies. It also provides nutrional and health info to pregnant women.
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TOhioLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:42 AM
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9. Title X:
http://opa.osophs.dhhs.gov/titlex/ofp.html

The Family Planning program, authorized under Title X of the Public Health Service Act, is administered within the OPA by the Office of Family Planning (OFP), although its budget line is located within the Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA). The program is funded at $288 million in fiscal year 2005. Susan Moskosky is the Director, OFP.

The Title X program is the only Federal program devoted solely to the provision of family planning and reproductive health care. The program is designed to provide access to contraceptive supplies and information to all who want and need them with priority given to low-income persons. A broad range of effective and acceptable family planning methods and related preventive health services are available on a voluntary and confidential basis. In addition to contraceptive services and related counseling, Title X supported clinics also provide a number of preventive health services such as: patient education and counseling; breast and pelvic examinations; cervical cancer, STD and HIV screenings; and pregnancy diagnosis and counseling. For many clients, Title X clinics provide the only continuing source of health care and health education.

The Title X program also supports three key functions aimed at assisting clinics in responding to clients needs: (1) training for family planning clinic personnel through general training programs; (2) information dissemination and community-based education and outreach activities; and (3) data collection and research to improve the delivery of family planning services.

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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:55 AM
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14. does it advise on abortion?
or are they opposed to the birth control part? I at least understand being anti-abortion. I have no idea what anti-contraceptive people are thinking.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:12 PM
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17. It's Against God's Teaching to "Be Fruitful and Multiply"
Was God actually encouraging gay marriage and adoption when he said; "be fruitful"?

"Please don't flame me. I meant no offense"
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:09 PM
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16. Off Topic, But Love Your Scottie Picture
How many times since the coup have I said;

"Beam me up Scottie...There's no intelligent life here"

But then I found DU!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:25 AM
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5. I wonder if any of them has a clue of what they would need to
replace these programs in their 'ownership' society. For grins, just think about not having Medicare....you would need approximately $6K a year per person from age 65 til death...let's say 20 years. That's $240,000 for basic health insurance (without considering 10% + increases) and let's add another $80,000 for long-term care insurance. Now for retirement, minus Social Security, let's figure on somewhere between $400k and $1 million in savings/investments to provide the life style you're accustom to during retirement. So for a couple, they better be stashing away about 3/4 of million.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:46 AM
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10. You First Have to Understand How the Average Freakers Mind Works
See, they think that if they just keep voting for their team (the Repukes), then is due time they too will be millionaires and have as much money as Dick Cheney. They don't want some long-haired hippie, or "Welfare Queen" in her Cadilac sucking up any of that $275,000.00 tax cut they will surely get, once they become as wealthy as ole' Dickie.

See, the only reason, and I mean the only reason they don't have enough money for a $275,000.00 tax cut, is because of all those evil, terrible, communist, socialist liberals keeping the white man down.

They are :crazy: -ier than a shithouse rat.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:56 AM
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11. You don't understand
They don't intend to replace Medicare. If you're old and get sick, they throw you in the sewer so the rats can chew on you. If THEY are old and get sick, well, I guess they'll have a pancake feed down at the church and that will cover all their medical expenses (yeah right!) or God will provide or something!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:14 PM
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18. Pancakes and Freedom Fries for Everyone!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:39 AM
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7. My ten worst
1. Fed. Communications Act which allows corporate consolidation of media and allows those broadcasting on OUR airways to put profit ahead of public interest.

2. No bid war contracts which give an incentive to politicians to start wars by profiting from it.

3. Eminent domain abuse.

4. Localized school funding. Suburban voters have the luxury of simply forgetting about inner city schools.

5. Building policies that reward sprawl.

6. Corporate farm subsidies that discriminate against family farms.

7. Inheritence tax repeal. This is a republic and we should not encourage a permanent aristocracy.

8. The state lottery. In reality it is a voluntary tax that poor people are fooled into playing.

9. Corporate shareholder immunity, other tort immunity for pet groups like nuclear plants and gun makers. Tort immunity is a license for negligence. You can prevent the jury from treating victims like citizens with rights by closing the courthouse door.

10. The appointment and funding of Ken Starr.

Okay, I cannot limit it to ten.

11. "Right to work" laws which exist solely to undermine unions.

12. Settling the Microsoft antitrust case.

13. Rejection of Kyoto and the world criminal court.

14. Purge of the FL voter roles in 2000.

15. UCC Articles 3 and 4. If you have a dispute with the bank, the bank wins.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:57 AM
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12. You need to add voting controlled by big GOP corps as the #1.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:00 AM
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13. Don't they realize that a lot of these programs where before 1994?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:58 AM
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15. Ann Coulter said that the ideal legal situation was around the turn of the
century: before child-labor laws even, when people wrote ridiculous books about being the rational light of the world as Dickens tore the lid off the living hell that was life for the poor, when the living envied the dead and the serfs of the Dark Ages past
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