Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Rafael Palmeiro couldn't help lying.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
PurgedVoter Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:53 AM
Original message
Rafael Palmeiro couldn't help lying.
Will Rafael Palmeiro get into trouble for lying before Congress? http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/08/02/PALMEIRO.TMP
Will he suffer for the use of illegal drugs?

I don't think he will.
I think he will get by just fine because he has paid for a get out of jail free card.
http://newsmeat.com/sports_political_donations/Rafael_Palmeiro.php
He has given $4000 to Bush.
Poor Martha Stewart she gave $173000 to Democratic causes. http://www.newsmeat.com/ceo_political_donations/Martha_Stewart.php

Democrats are expected to be honest and decent. That is what they believe in. We hold our fellow Democrats to high standards. On the other hand it is just plain wrong to call Republican's two-faced dirty liars. They may have taken a bath recently.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:55 AM
Response to Original message
1. a repug lying (to Congress) about drug use? Nah! Cue Rush L...-eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:48 AM
Response to Original message
2. Congress had no business looking into this crap in the first place.
To go so far as to nail someone on perjury would be a pretty pathetic use of their time.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. Well, it's not like they haven't done it before
Besides, with Chimpy and his henchmen running the entire government from their criminal lair in the West Wing, what else does Congress have to do?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #2
5. Better they address this than pass more CAFTA-like harmful crap.
If they were going to investigate the way repukes stole two elections, that'd be great.

If they were going to press the Pentagon to release the footage of soldiers raping people in Abu Ghraib, that'd be great, too.

Unfortunately, they're not doing anything useful... they're only using their time to twiddle their thumbs (steroid hearings) or do actual harm to the US (CAFTA). As such, let them go after this repuke lover for his crime.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
4. But, he's George Bush's friend!
Doesn't that make it all-okay?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:05 PM
Response to Original message
6. Wasn't Palmiero With Baltimore in '04?
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 12:06 PM by KharmaTrain
According to his donations:

PALMEIRO, RAFAEL MR.
COLLEYVILLE, TX 76034
TEXAS RANGERS/PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL BUSH, GEORGE W (R)
President
BUSH-CHENEY '04 COMPLIANCE COMMITTEE INC. $2,000
general 08/17/04
PALMEIRO, RAFAEL MR.
COLLEYVILLE, TX 76034
TEXAS RANGERS/PROFESSIONAL BASEBALL BUSH, GEORGE W (R)
President
BUSH-CHENEY '04 (PRIMARY) INC $2,000
primary 07/23/03


This donation would have been made in the middle of last season. I coulda sworn he was an O, not a "Ranger" last season. Hmmm. What's the penalty for lying on one of those Federal Election Disclosure forms?

Yep, poor Raffie didn't know what got into him or how he took it. OK, yeah right. I know...it was slipped in his Gatorade by some Democratic operative...like Hillary...and then it was coordinated with Bud Selig (no mind he's a Repugnican, too...and good buds with Jimmy Sensenbrenner) to frame poor old Raffie.

:puke:

I don't really give a rip if players are juiced up or not with steroids. If it's not one substance, there'll be another. The money's too big, the fame too great to not find a way to become "superhuman". If they're so vain glorious and fool-hearty to destroy their health for that extra nugget of gold, isn't that what "capitalism" is all about? Or personal responsibility?

Raffie's guilty of being a hypocrite...let him carry that baggage around for a while. Maybe he can join OJ on the links.

Cheers...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
newscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:26 PM
Response to Original message
7. At least he has an inside track on getting a pardon
Maybe that's why he was so brazen in front of Congress.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zinfandel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:32 PM
Response to Original message
8. "you either lied in the ad or used a prescription drug recreationally.''
n sports terms, Congress has been shown up. Rafael Palmeiro didn't even have to work at it. He just had to act smooth, point a finger at a House committee and declare passionately that he had never used steroids. The committee made it easy for him, throwing softball questions at a man who had hit 551 home runs in the majors.

The panel was so naive that no one bothered to ask Palmeiro: "Hey, aren't you the guy who shilled for Viagra and then said he didn't need it? In other words, you either lied in the ad or used a prescription drug recreationally.''

Nor did anyone inquire about Palmeiro's slow follow-through on threats to sue Jose Canseco for writing that Palmeiro used steroids when they were teammates in Texas. More than a month had passed since the release of Canseco's autobiography. The delay made no sense. Palmeiro didn't have to hunt for a lawyer. He said he could count on Orioles owner Peter Angelos, a renowned litigator eager to defend his first baseman's honor.

Now, Palmeiro is ducking questions about a positive steroid test, citing a confidentiality requirement that doesn't exist. On Monday, after his 10-day suspension was announced, he spoke on a conference call that was as charmingly crafted as his Congressional testimony 4 1/2 months ago.

Palmeiro asked for forgiveness, said he had ingested a banned substance by accident and promised to educate kids about the dangers of putting things in their bodies that weren't recommended by a doctor.

n sports terms, Congress has been shown up. Rafael Palmeiro didn't even have to work at it. He just had to act smooth, point a finger at a House committee and declare passionately that he had never used steroids. The committee made it easy for him, throwing softball questions at a man who had hit 551 home runs in the majors.

The panel was so naive that no one bothered to ask Palmeiro: "Hey, aren't you the guy who shilled for Viagra and then said he didn't need it? In other words, you either lied in the ad or used a prescription drug recreationally.''

Nor did anyone inquire about Palmeiro's slow follow-through on threats to sue Jose Canseco for writing that Palmeiro used steroids when they were teammates in Texas. More than a month had passed since the release of Canseco's autobiography. The delay made no sense. Palmeiro didn't have to hunt for a lawyer. He said he could count on Orioles owner Peter Angelos, a renowned litigator eager to defend his first baseman's honor.

Now, Palmeiro is ducking questions about a positive steroid test, citing a confidentiality requirement that doesn't exist. On Monday, after his 10-day suspension was announced, he spoke on a conference call that was as charmingly crafted as his Congressional testimony 4 1/2 months ago.

Palmeiro asked for forgiveness, said he had ingested a banned substance by accident and promised to educate kids about the dangers of putting things in their bodies that weren't recommended by a doctor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #8
9. Interestingly enough, his test was in May
I've been trying to remember when his testimony took place (and too lazy to google it up). So, he must have mysteriously ingested the erroneous substance just after the hearing.

Maybe it was in the milk he chugged for his victory after shaking his finger at our elected officials! Ooops!!! Sorry. Wrong sport. An intentional mistake on my part.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 02:14 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC