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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:42 AM
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San Diego's big religious mess (Mount Soledad Cross)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,164435,00.html

In November, San Diego voters rejected a ballot measure, Proposition K, which would have authorized the sale of the land on which the monument stands in an effort to correct violations of the state constitution that prohibit the display of religious symbols on state land.

In May, San Diego's City Council agreed to allow a measure called Proposition A on a July special election mayoral ballot after a massive signature-gathering effort organized by a group called San Diegans for the Mount Soledad National War Memorial.

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In the election last Tuesday, 76 percent of voters approved the transfer. Despite the vote, the fight isn't over.

City Attorney Michael Aguirre told The San Diego Union Tribune that it would be unconstitutional for the city to transfer the cross to the government because it would be done primarily to preserve a religious symbol.

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To make matters worse, it's not just opponents of the cross taking the city to court. The Mount Soledad Memorial Association which owns the cross says it owns the land too, which means voters may have given away property that wasn't theirs.

What a fucking mess.

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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:48 AM
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1. You're just a ball of energy this morning!
Just wanted to compliment you on the posts....
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:50 AM
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4. I'm in CONFERENCE CALL HELL today.
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ithinkmyliverhurts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:49 AM
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2. SAN DIEGO????? Funny. A fight over land??? Even funnier.
First bishop of California, b. 17 Sept., 1785, at Lagos in the state of Jalisco, Mexico; d. 30 April, 1846, at Santa Barbara. In 1801 he received the habit of St. Francis at the missionary college of Guadalupe, Zacatecas, made his vows the following year and was ordained priest at Monterey, Nuevo Leon, 13 Nov., 1808. For the next twenty years Father Diego was mainly occupied in preaching missions, and during this period compiled a small work, "Metodo de Misionar", or "Method for Giving Missions". From 1816 to 1819 he was master of novices, in 1822 he was made discretos, and in February, 1832, guardian or superior of the missionary college of Guadalupe. At the request of the Mexican Government, which had resolved to expel all Spanish friars from California, the college, whose members were natives, in April, 1832, sent eleven Mexican Franciscans to California, Father Diego going as commissary. They reached Cape San Lucas in September 1832, and Monterey, the head-quarters, in February 1833. The Guadalupan friars took charge of the missions from San Antonio to Sonoma, and on 6 March, Father Diego chose Santa Clara for his field of labor. He remained here until the end of 1835, when he visited Mexico to induce the Government to have a bishop appointed, in order to preserve the Church in California. On 19 Sept., 1836, the Mexican Government decided to petition the pope to create California a diocese and congress at the same time decreed to pay the new bishop an annual salary of $6,000 until the diocese should have a sufficient income. Of the three candidates proposed by the metropolitan chapter on 22 June, 1839, the Mexican Government 6 April, 1840, recommended Father Francisco Garcia Diego.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04785a.htm
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:50 AM
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3. Oh, what a tangled web they weave. nt
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