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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:59 AM
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Al Gore is gonna run.
I'm taking bets. Really. The fact that this channel replaced one that could have been labelled partisan and used against him is VERY TELLING.
AND he's courting the youth and tech vote. BRILLIANT.
Hello. Wake up ppl. He's gonna run.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:00 PM
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1. He better! nt
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dkamin Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:32 PM
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49. If only...
I wish he would run. I think if this iteration of Al Gore, the one who says what he thinks and isn't straitjacketed by a team of DLC Inside the Beltway (TM) consultants, had run in 2000, he would have won hands down.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:41 PM
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50. If only we had the social security LOCK BOX n/t
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:00 PM
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2. He WON'T run, and I'll take your bet! How much aare you willing to
loose?
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:02 PM
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6. I don't have that much.
Let's just say that if he dosen't I have to do something like always kick your posts for a month or state that you are the BEST in each of mine. Whatever:silly:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:24 PM
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29. Naw, I'm not that much of an egotist. How about whoever wins
agrees to donate $5.00 to DU?

Someone will have to remind me though! We're talking years here, and my brain has trouble with yesterday!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:47 PM
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32. Sure.
hope I remember too. Her's to it...
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:01 PM
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3. While you may wish it...it won't happen, and I hope it doesn't.
The election of 2000 left a bad taste in the mouths of many swing voters, and I fear it would be disastrous. Although he is my second favorite Dem.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:09 PM
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15. I actually think it's been long enough.
Being that the 2004 was actually uglier underneath. Kerry was easier to demonize. No one can argue that Al didn't come very very very close to 'winning".
Ah, this has all been said before;I'm just going on a very strong gut feeling. See my reply below.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:16 PM
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24. MrG, sadly, has said he will never vote for him.
:( I think a lot have the same feeling.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:19 PM
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27. You may be right.
It just seems that out of the field of contenders; well....
He has a little while in which to change his mind also. we'll see.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:12 PM
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17. Look at Nixon!
He ran and lost and ran again and won! Even though Nixon was an SOB he wasn't a total criminal like Bush is. He didn't have to steal an election and he didn't have daddy to help him get out of trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if he did run. Why Gore did the teen network? :shrug: Maybe he thought it would attract more people and be more interesting and different.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:17 PM
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25. Sure, but the stigma of 2000 wasn't there. I'd be really surprised if
he ran and worried about election day. We need a landslide.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:08 PM
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36. The only way to get the bad taste out
of our mouths is to gargle with the mouthwash of justice, the only way to get rid of Pottersville is to cover George Bailey's back, and the only way to right the world is to get rid of the wrong; Al Gore in 2008O8) !!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:02 PM
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4. i agree
this is an opportuity to undo the disaster of 2000

It would be a sweet revenge

This time Gore MUST not listen to his so-called advisors, but be his own person


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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:13 PM
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19. I agree
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 12:13 PM by FreedomAngel82
He probably has learned from the past and Kerry's run and he seems like a way different person then in 2000. If he does run he won't be the Al Gore of 2000 but the Al Gore of 2008. Wouldn't it be funny if it was a Gore/Clinton ticket? Ha!
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:58 PM
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34. I thought that was what he did at the convention.
And the media pilloried him about his "Populist rhetoric."

Long story short, we need to stop allowing the media to define our candidates. That is easier said than done, I know.

We might have to wait until the Internet eclipses television before that becomes plausible. That could still be a few years off, sadly.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:02 PM
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5. I just saw a quote from him saying the chance of him running was
close to 0. That bet looks like a huge longshot.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:05 PM
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9. I dunno.
I would tend to agree in any NORMAL election situation. However, I think the best idea for any good candidate is to lay low until absolutely necessary (unless ppl don't know who you are/what your polices are) He is in the unique positon of having already informed the country not once but TWICE what his platform is. Great stealth candidate.
I really don't care all that much if he dosen't; but I just think the whole thing is telling.It's tugging at my gut instinct. SOMETHING'S going on; just not sure what.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:03 PM
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7. maybe we can drag out all the Democratic losers to run as well
Kerry, Mondale, etc

it's time for fresh blood and Gore doesn't fit the bill

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:07 PM
Original message
Thank you dwick!! Every once in awhile somebody says something
that I'm in total agreement with. Today, we're on the same page. :toast:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:24 PM
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37. Yea, let's not forget those other losers like
Andrew Jackson, Grover Cleveland, and Republicans too like Richard Nixon, yea they could never win. Also let us not forget the "losers" in sports like the Denver Broncos, or Boston Red Socks, but wait those losers came back to win, so much for loser theory. Al Gore never lost in 2000, the only people to lose, were the American People and the only way that we can come back to win, is for justice to be served with Al Gore being elected in 2008, with the ballots actually being counted this time.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:44 PM
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44. I'll repeat....Bad taste in the mouths of many. Many here were openly
against it a while back. Memories die hard. This is not quite the situation you so entertainlingly described in your post. Most of them didn't have the taint of what happened, whether I agree with it or not, on them.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:13 PM
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46. I will also repeat, if you have a bad taste in your mouth,
the only cure is the mouthwash of justice. The only people tainted in 2000 were our so called fourth estate watchdogs that enabled the corrupt incompetent one to power in the first place, all for their own agenda. They trashed Al precisely because he helped us by democratizing information when he championed the internet. They wanted to retain their monopoly on what the truth is and the internet threatens them like no other. Like an enraged Zeus who had Prometheus chained to a rock only to have his liver eaten for all eternity for stealing fire from heaven and giving it to mankind. You can abandon the man that empowered you to voice your opinion through this website if you like, however that will not remove the bad taste no matter who wins in 2008. The only way to reverse the coup of 2000 is to put the man that was most offended in the White House where he belongs regardless of what the corpwhorate media think or say.


P.S. Al has not given up on us as his new televison/internet hybrid "Current" will attest, no living politician today exemplifies democracy more, with the possible exception of Jimmy Carter. And finally we need democracy now more than ever.
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:16 PM
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47. Wow.
Sheehs. VERY good analysis. I couldn't have said it better myself.
Ow; my brain hurts.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:26 PM
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48. Al Gore could very well toss his hat in the ring "at the last moment"
and win.

Just think, after building up a huge following via "Current," he won't need to campaign in the traditional sense. Al is looking forward. He is on track. The revolution WILL be televised. :D

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:17 PM
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52. Sorry, I love Al Gore...after all, he backed my primary candidate,
but we will lose the swing voters. My husband isn't a corporate whore, nor involved with the media. I can't put it any plainer than this: The average person is not a DUer. MrG is not a DUer. He refuses to vote next election if Gore runs. Plain and simple. You're not going to change the minds of swing voters. Sure, you'll vote for him, but you can't vouch for your countrymen. It'd be a big mistake.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:47 PM
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56. I do not believe that your husband is a corporate whore.
I trust that you are telling me the truth. I believe, as you say that the average person is not a DUer, actually I believe we are above average not because we are more intelligent but because we are more curious regarding finding out the truth. Most average Americans just go about their daily lives making a living and maybe catching 20-30 minutes of corporate sponsored news. They have come to trust our media, after all they have always been our fourth estate; our watchdog if you will. However something has gone terribly wrong with our American version of journalism, they have been bought out, they do not represent the American People any more, they represent their corporate masters. Today there are five corporations that own in excess of 80% of the mainstream media. They are totally disconnected with the American People, they live in ivory towers, the average American is just a pawn to be used for the advancement of their corporate agenda. They waged a war against Gore slandering him from at least 1998 to this day that has brainwashed many average Americans in to believing that A. He claimed to have invented the internet instead of giving the man credit for his vision and perseverance in democratizing information for everyone average or not. B. That he lost the 2000 debates after their own focus groups and some of their own media prostitutes said he won, they turned a 180 over night on this.C. That he claimed to have discovered the toxic waste at Love Canal, which he did not,his hearings on toxic waste in Tennessee did however include Love Canal. This is only the tip of the iceberg regarding their slander, I have included by the way a link to the Daily Howler Archives, they have an excellent record of the crimes committed against not just Al but by extension the American People.

http://dailyhowler.com/archives_99.shtml

P.S. This same corpwhorate media machine brainwashed 70+% of the American People in to believing that Saddam was behind 9/11. When Al came out with an excellent speech warning against going to war with Irag, they did not cover the content so much as to say he was ranting. In conlusion you can give up on Al and go with whatever candidate that the corpwhorate criminals say the average American should vote for but I will not. I have faith that the truth will rise and set us free.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:09 PM
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13. I agree
You can add Kerry to that list.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:04 PM
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8. That'd be poetic justice, or something
If so, he'd be re-running the Nixon cycle, with bush as the anti-Kennedy and Kerry as the anti-Goldwater. Let's hope he can cook up an "anti-Southern Strategy" to go with it. Maybe the media ownership maneuver is part of his anti-dastardly plan?

I would support him wholeheartedly this time around. If he polishes the populism a bit, I think he could pull it off.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:16 PM
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22. I think and hope by 2008
people will be ready for someone like Al Gore. Someone who can offer them something. Like Clinton said: if you have two canidates and one is offering you hope and one is offering you fear you should go to the one with hope. People will be ready for a real debate on real issues by then for health care, Social Security reform and if Iraq is still going on with Iraq. Gore has come out in 2003 and did speeches on being against Iraq so that will help him a lot then as well. I still think our country needs Gore.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:06 PM
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10. he better do something about diebold....
or WE better...

or forget it.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:22 PM
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28. Seriously
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:56 PM
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57. I agree in total, meaningful voter reform is imperative. n/t
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:07 PM
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11. Short of a draft at the convention, it's not going to happen.
I genuinely think that Gore is happy in his life now. I believe him when he said his political career is over.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:38 PM
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39. Then let us reinstate the draft,
the draft Al Gore for President in 2008 movement. In my humble opinion he has done more for us than any living political leader. He was trashed by the corpwhorate media precisely because he did help us. If Al Gore decided that he wanted to invade Hell and kick the Devil's ass, I would happily go with him. Currently we have hell on earth in the form of a corrupt incompetent party in charge and the prostitutes in the corpwhorate owned media that sold the American People down the river and enabled the naked emperor to power in the first place, while they blissfully slandered our best and brightest.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:08 PM
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12. I so hope you are right about this!
:woohoo: :party: :bounce:
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:09 PM
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14. Al Gore ?
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 12:12 PM by kansasblue
I'd consider it. He understands the underhanded nature of the Republican and elections. The only canidate I'll support is one that understands there are Floridas and Ohios and opennly talks about election fraud.

I'm not working my ass off to get people out to vote just to have them go home just the lines are too long and have there vote disappear with a few clicks on a computer.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:10 PM
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16. I hope he pulls a Nixon
That would be great. If there is no way to prove that Kerry and Edwards should be in office I would really love it if Gore would run. He would be my second choice.
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KarenInMA Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:13 PM
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18. I certainly hope not. I dislike losing.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:13 PM
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20. Favorite quote from last nights 'Tonight Show'
There's winning, there's loosing, and then there's that little known other thing.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:14 PM
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21. Can we find a clip of that show anywhere online? nt
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:42 PM
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My favorite quote was when
Jay gave him a back handed complement when he said to effect you are not as stiff as you used to be and Al said " I benefit from low expectations", Jay is such an idiot.
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mknmehappy Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:16 PM
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23. I saw him last night on Leno,
I think he will run also.

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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:17 PM
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26. I liked his comment when Leno asked him about 2000
"You win some, you lose some, and then there's that little known third category..."
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:34 PM
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30. And this time he has his own television station...
Let them trying spreading their lies again!

But he would not be so unwise as to announce this early...:)
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NancyG Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:40 PM
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31. I'd vote for him,
but then I'd vote for ANY Democrat in the general election.

Speaking of generals, I kind of prefer The General myself. Or, as I'd rather refer to him, The Supreme Commander, Mr. President.
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bigendian Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:57 PM
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33. I must be losing it!
Someone just posted this link to Al's concession speech:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/algore2000concessionspeech.html

I am sending it to all my friends so they can hear a great speech as an antidote to *'s daily spew.

I'm sure it was here a minute ago but now seems to be gone. Anyway, give it a listen and send it on. The true statesmanship expressed in it is a stark contrast to what we hear daily. No wonder Al stays out of the limelight.

Our country will need someone like him after the debacle of this administration is through!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:02 PM
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35. So we'll have Gore, Kerry and Clinton vying for the nomination?
Yikes!
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:25 PM
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38. anyone for a Gore/Clinton ticket :) n/m
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mconvente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:42 PM
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40. regardless
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 01:46 PM by mconvente
He was GREAT on Leno last night. GREAT! "Well, you win some and lose some. And then there's that little known third category." GREAT response to his "loss" in 2000 - I really still believe (as of course we all do here) that Al Gore believes he should be president right now. Well, he should god damnit!

I hope he runs. I think he would be great.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:45 PM
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41. I doubt it
He has stated that he is not interested, and said something to the effect that he likes being out of politics because he can say what is on his mind without worrying about the political repercussions.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:47 PM
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42. a TV network maybe
otherwise, he's not running anything. Sorry.

Look, I used to like Gore, but his sheer ineptitute and lack of convictions got us into this mess, I want nothing to do with him anymore.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:53 PM
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43. If President Al Gore actually assumes the position..
I'd love it. He might not be my first choice, but I do think he's learned from his campaign. And the things he said would happen under a Bush maladministration have come true - and then some.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:50 PM
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45. better than hillary,that's for damn sure
or john "i couldn't run a decent campaign to save my life"kerry
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yankeedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:48 PM
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51. I don't know, but I've got his campaign slogan
"Didn't I tell you so?"
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:29 PM
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53. I'll bet you a shiny sixpence he doesn't run.
:)
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:31 PM
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54. Hope he doesn't...
Has anyone learned anything these last 5 years? Gore could win, but it would be close and another close election is another stolen election. We need some new blood, a true Dem with a fire in his gut. Someone who can win the next election in a landslide. Someone who can inspire people. Gore, Clinton, and Kerry should step aside to make way for someone who can get the job done...
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:51 PM
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55. I Pray He Will Run
And I would like Wesley Clark to be his Vice Presidential running mate. A match made in Democratic Heaven.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 02:57 PM
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58. Inasmuch as he was elected once, he should have "first dibs" at the job...
I really like and respect Al, and if he were the Democratic candidate, I'd work like hell to get him elected (again).

But something tells me that his time to hold public office has come and gone. :(
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 03:04 PM
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59. I've been pushing Gore-Clark here since Nov 3, but I've changed my mind
I want Hillary now, no ifs ands or buts.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 03:08 PM
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60. Well the corpwhorate media have
certainly been pushing Hillary.
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