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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:54 PM
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? how many does it take to land the space shuttle
why not leave as many as possible on the space station (just in case)

is the space station not equipped to house any more than they have, I thought this shuttle mission brought X number of tons of supplies

shuttle schedule to land monday




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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 12:59 PM
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1. That would make too much sense!
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ElectricHermit Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:02 PM
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2. Why
are so many acting like the shuttle is doomed. The problem with the tile sealing strips is well known.The shuttle has been brought back safely with entire tiles missing....how about some good vibes....:patriot:
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:04 PM
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3. worst case scenario
I would side with caution due to recent track record
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:05 PM
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4. That would look bad.
Shuttles have been destroyed before because people didn't want to look bad.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:10 PM
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5. well
In case of what? They got to come down sometime. It's not like the shuttle is going to magically get safer. Given the threat of no shuttle lunches til they fix the foam problem. I'd want my butt on that ship going down.
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:16 PM
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7. what? that is the ONLY way to get down
from the international space station, a trip on a shuttle ~ not

russians just launch rocket rides to and from the space station
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SeattleVet Donating Member (708 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:50 PM
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8. Current safety standards are that the number of crew aboard ISS
should never exceed the space available aboard the Soyuz for emergency evacuation purposes. This was implemented when the shuttle fleet was grounded. It would do little good to have 9 people aboard the ISS with only 2 emergency seats available for evacuation via the Soyuz.

As this flight (and the next, at the least) are considered to be test flights and we are not back to full operational status I think that this makes sense.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 04:12 PM
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9. Yeah
9 people in one Russian craft... Not gonna happen.
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Retired AF Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:15 PM
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6. None
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 01:20 PM by Retired AF Dem
It is done by computer. Carbon units are for backup.
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LastDemocratInSC Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 06:43 PM
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10. Not quite correct
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 06:44 PM by LastDemocratInSC
Two critical tasks of landing cannot currently be controlled by computer. The first is the deployment of air data sensors that collect airspeed, altitude and air temperature data. The second is the deployment of the shuttle's landing gear. Both are essential to a safe landing.

You can hear the capcom call to "Take air data" during the late phase of a shuttle approach. The decision to deploy the gear is the commander's. In both cases, the pilot flips switches to take these actions.

I'm not sure how the air data sensors are deployed. I do know that the landing gear are deployed by hydraulically lifting a hook arm that lets the gear fall under its own weight, along with the push of a spring to get it started.

From what I know, the cost to automate these tasks is quite high.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 07:09 PM
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11. The first shuttle flew with two people I think.
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