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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:38 PM
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Clinton Official - Prison Abuse Decisions Came from the Top
"Closing Guantánamo or Abu Ghraib will not stop torture", ex-White House Aide asserts.
Washington, DC - The prison torture decisions "came from the top," asserts Robert Weiner, a former Clinton White House senior public affairs official. "No matter where these prisons are, so long as our policy is the same, torture will take place - closing Guantánamo or Abu Ghraib will not stop the outbreak of abuses and torture."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/080105Q.shtml
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:51 PM
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1. I've been trying to make this point for a while
From the editorial in the Cleveland Plain Dealer (see the second entry on the TruthOut link):

Calls to close the U.S. prison at Guantánamo Bay have diverted attention from what we should be concerned about - the policies that have made both Guantánamo and Abu Ghraib infamous.

Perhaps Guantánamo should be shut down because of all it symbolizes. But without a serious policy change in our treatment of prisoners abroad, the problem will stand unchanged. Even Vice President Dick Cheney knows this, saying (and sending a chill to the human rights community) on June 13, "If we didn't have that facility at Guantánamo to undertake this activity, we'd have to have it someplace else."

Astoundingly, the White House is claiming it would "restrict the president's authority" to pass bipartisan legislation prohibiting the "cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment" of detainees, and Cheney is saying the president will veto any such bill.

The Guantánamo tactics spread long before Cheney's statement. Gen. Geoffrey Miller, whose guards' ruthlessness in questioning prisoners at Guantánamo is infamous, was promoted to do more of the same in Iraq at Abu Ghraib. There, the military created jargon, saying Miller "Gitmoized" Iraq prison interrogations. The torture strategy we've seen was hardly accidental or random. The Department of Defense's only justification, as recently as May 25 by Gen. Richard Myers, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, is that this is a new war and these are bad people: "They would slit our throats and our children's throats" in this "different kind of struggle."

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:59 PM
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3. They OPENLY embrace policies which constitute war crimes.
Pretty freaky, huh!!! The whole Republican party which lends aid to these war monsters and human rights abusers should go down with them. The party has shown seriously flawed moral and legal character.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 01:52 PM
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2. Of course
This shows that Bush knows about it and really doesn't give a damn that innocents are being tortured for nothing!
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 02:23 PM
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4. There was evidence that Rummy directly approved what was happening.
I've lost the darn link; but, I'll go see if I can find it somewhere.
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