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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:30 PM
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If OH election is clean it's likely GOPs are nervous about getting caught
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 08:37 PM by blm
red-handed on this election because everyone is watching.

I don't think they'll risk it. Getting caught, with all the Noe/GOP corruption in the news the last few months, would risk blowing open their whole 2004 scam.

They aren't dumb enough to risk it. Bush doesn't give a crap about one congressional seat. He only cares how anything effects HIM.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:32 PM
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1. good points blm. lets hope. hte thing with bushco
man, they are arrogant. and they dont give a shit if they are caught, nothing happens. i think we have clear evidence on tons of lies corruption and theft, and nothing.,
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:32 PM
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2. They're not "dumb" but they are "totally arrogant" and that could get them
How do you stop stealing when you've raid the frig every night and the chumps just put out more food?

We, collectively, are the chumps.

I bet they try something. "It's their nature."

A comprehensive explanation of election fraud--text and key links

or try…

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00238.htm
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:35 PM
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3. hahah...no doubt it's their nature....the Noe/GOP scandal is the unknown
factor here. I'm not in Ohio but from what I read here at DU that scandal is HUGE and connects to election fraud.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:42 PM
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12. Go right to the source...it's amazing.
The Toledo Blade is the last major newspaper in the USA that does investigative reporting with a vengance. I check it regularly. It restores my hope for a restoration of democracy.

Enjoy:

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:47 PM
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13. Hmmm...wonder if Toledo Blade will demand to see paper trail?
What if we call them and suggest it?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:53 PM
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14. Call them up & ask them to insist on release of raw data-OH Exit Polls
Those done on election day showed a clear Kerry win. There is an audit trail for that and it's controlled by the network consortium--ABC,CBS, NBC, FOX, CNN. They refuse to release this despite a written request by Rep. Conyers. Let's get it all!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:38 PM
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4. They're Republicans, They WILL CHEAT
You can count on it. It may not be Family sanctioned, but if it's good for the Capo, it's good for them too.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:40 PM
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9. Well...if they ARE that dumb, then I hope DNC is ready to demand the
machines be examined immediately.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:42 PM
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11. One Would Hope
However, fucking w/ the machines isn't the only way to cheat, though I wouldn't put it past them...:shrug:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:38 PM
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5. dupe self/delete
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 08:39 PM by lonestarnot
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:38 PM
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6. slow in posting. Self deleat of dupe.
Edited on Tue Aug-02-05 08:40 PM by lonestarnot
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:38 PM
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7. Trouble with refresh on WCPO is that it doesn't tell which precincts are
reported. US HOUSE Ohio 2nd Dist
580 precincts of 753 reporting JEAN SCHMIDT 45,134 52%
PAUL HACKETT 42,342 48%
Lead is slipping...
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:40 PM
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8. I disagree. They will risk it.
They are that desperate. They have risked far more than this here election.
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Son of California Donating Member (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 08:42 PM
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10. Which is why you have to tell anyone who will listen....
about voting fraud.

If it is talked about to the point that is seems common knowledge that Republicans play with voting machines, they will be too afraid to try it.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:55 PM
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15. Wasn't Schmidt really hanging around too?
A caller earlier on the Majority Report told how they saw Schmidt inside shaking hands with people and giving something out (a nail filer I think) and they told the poll workers and the poll workers told her to leave. He caught her on video and she ran back inside the church as well. Isn't that illegal? Here when we vote on the front door there are signs with all the rules and canidates can't be around and go past the doors unless they're voting and this is where they vote. Also isn't she tied to Tom Noe? I thought I read about that here. On a local show I saw with Schmidt and Hackett the host asked her about her connections to Noe and she of course claimed not to know him. :shrug:
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 10:58 PM
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16. I almost had to laugh as sad as that is, they dare anything....
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-02-05 11:14 PM
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17. It looks like nothing makes them "nervous" --
they do anything, it seems, with impunity.
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