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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:25 AM
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This is just crazy: Traffic altercation, man hunts and kills other guy
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/08/03/brockton_traffic_argument_ends_in_tragedy/

Angry and fearful after a traffic altercation, prosecutors say, 60-year-old Walter Bishop hunted down another driver yesterday, 27-year-old Sandro Andrade, who held his infant daughter as at least four lethal rounds were fired point-blank into his head and body.


...

Investigators said the bloody chain of events began minutes earlier on a quiet side street, when a young, aspiring Cape Verdean immigrant and a frail, well-liked older man got into a traffic scuffle.
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Bishop left the encounter thinking Andrade had taken down his license plate number to exact revenge later, Reddington said.

''I made up my mind right there I had to do something," Bishop told investigators later, according to prosecutors.

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Authorities said Bishop dropped his wife at an MBTA station, then spotted Andrade's maroon Isuzu Rodeo in front of a downtown employment office. He swerved his Chevy Blazer across traffic and rammed into the driver's side door of Andrade's car, witnesses told police.

Louis McPhee, 47, the manager of a car wash across the street, described what he saw next: ''He's got the window down, never even gets out. Pop! Pop! Pop! Pop! Four shots. It sounded like a cap gun . . . The guy was lying there in his own blood with a hole in his head and his arm still on the baby."
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:27 AM
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1. Mr Bishop will now serve out his years in prison
...wonder if he didn't have some early dementia that made him so paranoid????
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:06 AM
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17. He had depression
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 10:07 AM by Glenda
"Reddington said Bishop had recently developed depression and took two medications to treat it."

Don't know why that would make him paranoid though
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:39 AM
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26. Oh he's REALLY gonna be depressed now
fucking piece of shit, I hope he offs himself in prison
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:47 AM
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32. my neighbor's husband has been suffering from depression
and has become a bit paranoid...and he isn't taking any medications...BUT he does own a handgun and his wife has hidden it because she is a bit concerned that he may be in the early stages of Alzheimers..
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:15 AM
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19. quite likely the case
clinical depression is one of the symptoms of alzheimer's, as is very strange behavior and sometimes violent behavior

could be an early onset case

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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:55 AM
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30. Dementia is what I was thinking too nt
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:27 AM
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2. unbelievable
wow, people are farking nuts.
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AverageJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:28 AM
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3. Jesus Christ!
What in the hell is wrong with this world, when something like this can happen. This is just awful. My God.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:29 AM
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4. The Most Dangerous Game
Truthfully this sounds like the plotline to a movie I'd actually consider seeing (depending on who was in it).

Yeah, I'm pretty much going to hell.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:30 AM
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5. Thank GOODNESS we don't need sensible gun laws!
:eyes:
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:52 AM
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10. An armed society is a polite society...
:sarcasm:
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Squatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:23 AM
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22. Pray tell, what (sensible) gun law would have prevented this?
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:04 AM
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31. when people are depressed or paranoid it would be a good idea
to limit their access to guns.

Once I was looking at a building lot in a semi-rural area with a couple of family members. There was a house nearby. An older man with a similar story as this guy (depressed, being treated for cancer, on a lot of medications) came out of his house with a handgun and got to within a few feet, pointing it directly at us. It was obvious he was raving and very unstable. Of course we said, "hey NO problem...we were just leaving." When the real estate agent confronted the daughter (his caretaker), she just said, oh yeah, I guess I should've gotten rid of the guns....well duh. If someone like this threatened a member of your family you'd be a little more interested in finding a solution.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:30 AM
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6. KeeRyst!
Sounds like a scene from a Stephen King novel.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:31 AM
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7. Geez, what insanity
Give this man a life sentence for pre-meditated murder. Road rage, a hatred of immigrants, a bit paranoid, and carrying a gun. Put this man away and throw away the key.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:54 AM
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13. Hatred of immigrants indeed..........betcha victim was black??
Aren't Cape Verdeans black? And was the shooter white? Crazy old coot afraid of those black folks, so he offs one?

ai ai ai............what kind of world do we live in?
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:02 AM
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15. Yes, shooter white, victim black
shooter



victims wife and daughter

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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:39 AM
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8. Guns don't kill people. 60-year old men with emphysema kill people...


...though it WOULD be hard for an overweight 60-year-old man with emphysema to kill a 27-year-old man unless he had a gun, wouldn't it?
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:49 AM
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9. Oh no
Eventually someone here will claim that he could have just as easily killed this guy with a knife, so it doesn't matter that he had a gun. :eyes: Fucking INSANE, this country is.
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:53 AM
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11. Uhh, "well-liked older man"??
Who liked this guy? Other paranoid, trigger-happy psychopaths?

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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:53 AM
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12. You can also see the video of the news report
http://www.boston.com/news/local/

Far right, 1/3 way down, search for "Father gunned down in front of daughter in Brockton"
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:00 AM
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14. This is why concealed carry is such a good idea
:sarcasm:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:52 AM
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29. But but
Guns don't kill people
People kill people

And unfortunately,
Guns don't die
People do.

Did you hear about the 6 year who shot and killed her 2 year old brother in central MO? There's an article on the MO board. Yep, concealed carry was a great idea for MO. This is the (I stopped counting how many) kid killed in an accidental shooting in MO since CCW was passed. At least they stopped talking about it in KS.
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:02 AM
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16. Oh my god.
That is crazy. I don't even know what to say. :cry:
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:15 AM
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18. Terrible, terrible story.
Bishop's defense will be his use of anti-depressants, mark my words.

Editorial Observation: I think the reporter could have used a better choice of words in this sentence:

Fernandes yesterday held her baby, who was washed up and seemingly sanguine after the day's bloody events.
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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:23 AM
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21. "sanguine"? Someone get that reporter a thesaurus. n/t
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:36 AM
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25. Nobody uses reference books these days...
geez - that's so old-fashioned.
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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 09:48 PM
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33. Hah, I'll be sanguine if I want to. Gosh.
I turn my head in distain to you. See?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:18 AM
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20. Good God Almighty...
:cry:

Depression or not... medications or not... that guy should spend the rest of his life behind bars.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:28 AM
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23. ''I made up my mind right there" ; premeditated, no less
he probably doesn't realize that's a self incriminating statement, which suggests he thought he somehow had the right to do this.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:31 AM
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24. Near Indianapolis recently - a man shot a teenager for throwing eggs
at his truck. Killed him.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:46 AM
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28. Nothing New
When i was in high school (junior year), a guy in my homeroom shot and killed a kid for throwing snowballs at his car. That was in 1972. There have, apparently, always been nutjobs among us.
The Professor
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:43 AM
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27. What America needs is more guns
If that baby had had a gun maybe.......
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