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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:03 PM
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How do you try to reason with this pro Iraq war logic?

from an online argument with a freeper. He states upon being informed of now 1800 of our soldiers dead in Iraq:

"Tragic. That America's bravest pay the ultimate sacrifice in the war on terror. Thankfully, there are men & women willing to take on such a dangerous role so there isn't another episode of over 3,500 innocent men, women, & children murdered."

Sigh.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:05 PM
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1. why don't you have a go at the obvious response. eom.
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mnmoderatedem Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:19 PM
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4. The obvious doesn't work with some people.
typical responses: "Saddam was harboring terrorists" "Saddam was a threat" "Saddam was a bad guy and needed to be removed"

Sigh...
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:55 PM
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10. right
so:

the Iraqi regime had no connection with al qaeda or 9/11. End of story.

Your next two arguments for the war are unrelated to your original argument.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:06 PM
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2. you don't
don't even try. Some people are just too stupid.

Of course, mentioning a few thousand innocent Iraqis killed might...oh nevermind.
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Lannes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:09 PM
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3. Said it once and Ill say it again
Those types "dead enders".Nothing we show them no matter how conclusive will change their minds.

There are some that were duped and can be reasoned with but some are just so far gone that its pointless to try.
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evolved Anarchopunk Donating Member (188 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:23 PM
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5. *sigh*.....*sigh*..... *long sigh*...
"so there isn't another episode of over 3,500 innocent men, women, & children murdered"

i was going to add nothing to my subject line, but I'm getting really depressed over here. I know it happens to everyone, political burnout, but im feelin it BIG TIME. But you cannot give up, remind this asshole that there has been that episode, it's not only reoccurred, but by most accounts it has probably reoccurred nearly 30 times to the unfortunate citizens/HUMAN BEINGS who happen to reside in a country once called Iraq.

And the kicker? It happened at our hands...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:25 PM
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6. Print out an elistment form
personalize it, then send it snail mail.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:32 PM
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7. People whop believe that Iraq is an extension of 9-11 have no reasoning
ability. Just remind him to watch how much sugar he puts in the KoolAid before he gulps it down.
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Kraklen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:33 PM
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8. Just call him a coward for not enlisting himself.
The one I'm having trouble reasoning with is the "but the insurgents are targeting civilians!!!" bullshit.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 01:36 PM
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9. Treat it like dealing in human currency
if U.S. dead exceed victims of WTO style attacks the treatment would be worse than the disease.

He would probably reply that soldiers chose to die in the name of country or that civilians some how are more valuable than enlisted men or some such non-sense. Still if you accept his original flawed premise you could argue this angle.
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