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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:06 PM
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"Air America To Go Off The Air..."
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 10:26 PM by XOKCowboy
A RW'er that I work with came in to work this morning and said "Well I'm sorry but it looks like AAR will be going off the air soon." I laughed and told him that he said that since the first day they came on the air and he said that this time it was true. He'd heard it on "the business report". Wouldn't say WHICH "business report" but knowing him it was either Fox News or someone on RW radio. He said that the "Liberal Millionaires who'd been pumping money into it" were tired of losing money and were going to dump it. I reminded him that it was gaining market share in many if not most markets and he pooh poohed that and said that it had been constantly losing market share from the report he'd heard.

I googled every way I know how and didn't come up with ANYTHING to indicate a problem with Air America. Kinda shows you that these people will believe anything that they're told. It also shows just how scared of the truth getting out and refuting their propoganda.

It'll be good NEXT year to remind him of his dire predictions.

Title edited to keep from offending sensibilities and causing heart attacks.
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:09 PM
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1. yeah, your boy o'reilly just repeated that
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:41 PM
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25. it's true..
he read it in the Paris Business Review.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:04 AM
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37. This site made me laugh water through my nose.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:09 PM
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2. don't you think your headline is a little misleading?
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:11 PM
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4. it was meant to be that way, it got you to read this right :) nt
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:14 PM
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5. no, that is exactly what o'reilly said.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:24 PM
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14. Actual news is ACT cutting back to research only - our GOP friend
can not keep ACT from becoming AAR?

But then we do not expect brains in many of those that support the GOP.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:24 PM
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15. Yeah but it got your attention...
Just like it did mine this morning. :)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:28 PM
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17. well if you want to spread RW memes
I guess you have achieved that
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:35 PM
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22. ?
get off of it
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:46 AM
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43. Ah a certain amount of purity, eh?
I often repeat RW Memes, as I don't see how one refutes them without repeating them first.

Would we be better off pretending Conservatives in America are mute?


Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:58 AM
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45. the thread title has been changed
it was misleading
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:11 PM
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3. they wish we'd all shut up and go off the air. well, screw them!
long live air america!
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:16 PM
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6. Hmmm lemme guess.. really big guy...
Hehe... Sounds like he was in a hurry to spread the good news. I see nothing has changed. Some people just never learn.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:21 PM
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8. FUNNY BUT AIR AMERICA JUST SIGNED.. A LONG TERM
contract with xm radio...they are full of dog doo doo!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:23 PM
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11. LOL Nope
The skinny one. I just let him gloat. Our time will come.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:20 PM
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7. Malloy said the Arbitron ratings were great; they were gaining
market share. This is more RW shit they are shoveling to try and undo a movement to the left that they are afraid of.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:28 PM
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18. Shultz said the same thing yesterday
he listed quite a few places where he was beating Hannity and O'Reilly..
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:21 PM
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9. that has been the RW talking point for over a year
they believe if they say it enough it will happen

it won't, it is filling a necessary void

there are more people in this country then those idiots

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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #9
46. they create their own reality,
remember?
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:23 PM
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10. How about putting some quotation marks on your thread title next time,
since it was a quote by some RW'er you work with....instead of trying to scare the shit outta us by making it sound like it was a done deal.

:mad:
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:26 PM
Response to Reply #10
16. There ya go... NCF
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:31 PM
Response to Reply #16
19. That's much better........
but what does NCF mean?
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:35 PM
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21. No comment follows.
Something another messageboard I frequent uses. These acronyms are SOOO confusing. :)
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #21
24. Many thanks.....NCF
;-)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:23 PM
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12. It's all nonsense
Edited on Wed Aug-03-05 10:24 PM by FreedomAngel82
My town sometime this month is supposed to be getting AAR and I'm in a medium size town here in Tennessee. So I highly doubt that. AAR is on sixty-six affiliates around the country. :eyes: Al Franken actually has higher raitings I've heard then O'Reilly.
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Rosco T. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:30 PM
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31. Sixty Seven ...
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:23 PM
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13. Wishful thinking
I understand they are picking up market share in most markets--even when they have crappy signals.
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:33 PM
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20. Here in Denver..
the local AM station that started airing AAR last year went from a .5 to a 2.0 share in that time. They'd NEVER been above a .5 share before with any other format.

Meanwhile the local RW Hate Radio station that airs Hannity, Medved, Ingraham has LOST market share.

They're scared of AAR and are lashing out. It's really a good sign.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #20
23. absolutely
In Dallas...the station had 0.0 market share.
First few months, AAR has 0.5.
Interestingly, the RW rag lost exactly that marketshare.
Can't wait to see the next book--that will be the telling one.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:42 PM
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26. thank you
for the "s
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:59 PM
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30. You're certainly welcome...
It was kinda misleading.
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MazeRat7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:48 PM
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27. DailyKOS analysis of this very question: Yes they are GROWING.
<snip>
Fri Jul 8th, 2005 at 12:07:51 PDT

(From the diaries. Interesting stuff -- kos)

I'm sure everyone is wondering if AirAmerica is succeeding or failing. Well, I've done the research and I can tell you the answer. Numbers and graphs inside.

...

First, the bad news. Mainstream (which is largely conservative) talk radio has many, many, many more listeners than AAR. For the selected cities, the overall listenership of Limbaugh/baseline is about 3.8 million this quarter as opposed to about 1 million for AAR. And don't think to yourself that AAR has 1/4 the listenership of Limbaugh, because Limbaugh is on in many more cities where I didn't even collect data because AAR has no presence there. That said, Limbaugh's 3.8 million is down from 4.4 million at the Fall peak whereas AAR's 1 million is up from 800,000 in the Fall. Here's a graph of absolute numbers:

...

All that vertical whitespace is growth that AAR needs just to catch up to Limbaugh in the markets where AAR even exists. You can see there's a lot of work to be done. However, you can also see two other things.

1. AAR is gaining.
2. The Limbaugh baseline is falling.

...
(If you want something you can quote, here's some percentages: The mainstream talk radio market, represented by Limbaugh, is down 1% since the Winter 04 ratings while AirAmerica Radio is up 32%.)

MZr7
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:58 PM
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29. Thank you..
We have these little chats almost every morning. That's a nice stat to drop. Every little bit helps. Of course tomorrow I planned on mentioning Bush's vacation but I'll just postpone that a day. :)
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fighttheevilempire Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #27
32. If only there was a station in Northeast and/or Central PA...
Where I spend all my time. I'd really like to be able to listen.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:38 AM
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41. Stream them on your computer.
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fighttheevilempire Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #41
47. Once I get back to college...
with my cable internet I very likely will. But on dial-up at home it's not very realistic.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 10:56 PM
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28. did you ask the RWinger why he isn't fighting in Iraq?
i have no more patience for anyone supporting bush who isn't in Iraq fighting for their Feurer's ideals.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:44 PM
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33. Ok, they've lost exactly ONE station...
...South Lake Tahoe, CA! Woo woo. WHICH, doesn't matter, since that area is covered by the Reno station! SO WHATEVER! They got back LA and Chicago (even as half-assed as they are with Ed Shitz, aka FAKE LIBERAL!) so they can't stake that claim. They're in most of the biggest markets: NY, LA, Chicago, San Fran, DC, Miami, Dallas, Philly, Boston, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix, San Diego, Seattle, Denver, Cleveland, Minneapolis, Portland, etc., so YEAH, AAR IS GOING SOMEWHERE...RIGHT TO NUMBER ONE!~!!!!!!!!!

Lu Cifer, and here's to your freeper fucktards: :nopity::nopity::nopity:
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bdgoodman08 Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:44 PM
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34. Air America/Maine
870 AM in Maine was AAR, and the station was going to replace it the day after election day with Sports Radio. There was such an uproar, they apologized, and kept it.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:42 AM
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42. Hi bdgoodman08!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #34
44. well hi there!
Welcome to DU! The more AAR, the better!
:toast:
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Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-03-05 11:59 PM
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35. I heard the same shit today from friend of mine (her friend is THUG)
and he told her, AAR is going out because they are losing ratings and people who are funding AAR are getting tired of not bring in money. He told my friend, he heard it on Sean Hannedy. She told him, he was full of shit!
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:02 AM
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36. sounds like BS to me. I don't see any backup for this either.
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Catrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:19 AM
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39. Consider the source
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 12:22 AM by Catrina
Hannity, Michelle Malkin? Backup? :rofl: :rofl:

Didn't one of the states up north replace Rush Limbaugh with AAR? The rightwingers are getting scared. They had the airwaves all to themselves for so long they really believed what they were told, that there was no audience for a liberal station. It blows their minds to have everything they were told turn out to be a lie!!
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:16 AM
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38. Well, here's the AAR story that the RW'ers I know have been harping on
They will NOT leave this one alone. When I've looked into it, all the sites that are pushing this story are shills like Michelle Malkin. I was able to find a bit about it on Kos, where they posted AAR's two responses to this matter. But the RW'ers are really hyping this.

<<snip>>
Youth funds diverted to liberal radio station
by Michael Horowitz
July 5, 2005
Bronx News


The Bronx News has learned, through informed sources, that the diversion of hundreds of thousands of dollars from the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club in Co-op City to the liberal Air America Radio is at the center of the city’s probe of corruption at the local club.

The money, which was reportedly paid to Air America as a loan, was supposed to be paid back with interest, two unidentified informed sources told the News. One source added that Air America officials, led by an official of the Gloria Wise Club, agreed to help the local club by publicizing its activities.

To date, no indictments have been handed down in the New York City Department of Investigation’s ongoing probe of the Gloria Wise Club’s reported transfer of funds to Air America.

<<snip>>

At the center of the investigation, in addition to Charles Rosen, the charismatic leader of the local club for the last 15 years, is Evan Cohen, who resigned, under fire, as chairman of Air America Radio shortly after its start as an alternative to conservative talk radio.
<<snip>>

http://www.gothamgazette.com/community/12/news


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Jersey Ginny Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:23 AM
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40. Netroots and AAR make Repukes wet their pants
If we can only get a TV station or two. Anyone seen Current? I don't get cable anymore. I would if there was a progressive station.
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