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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:17 AM
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Who's following HR 181? (mandatory mental health screenings)
It seems that this piece of legislation (or one very similar) is our last hope for defeating the "recommendations" made by the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health. It remains in committee. Does anyone have an update or time estimate for when this will come out of committee? Is it being strangled there?

Here's a summary page from Thomas: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:HR00181:@@@L&summ2=m&

Last November, when the legislation was passed to approve the committee's recommendations, the American public was told not to worry because there was no funding linked to the legislation. This was (and continues to be) ANOTHER LIE. The Appropriations committee, which distributes our tax dollars to federal agencies, specifically allotted $20 million in the HHS/Education bill (late November 2004) for state programs in support of the New Freedom commission report. These federally-funded state programs will be the precursors of the broader federal program recommended by the commission.

Each state will either develop its own program or join a program already in place (like TeenScreen - http://www.psychsearch.net/teenscreen.html )

I know there is so very much to be outraged about. Sometimes I think that is part of the grand design of this administration -- give us so much that we'll all just become overwhelmed and give up. Please pay attention to this. Our children should not become state guinea pigs! Furthermore, the youth screenings are only the beginning. The Commission has stated its goal to be mandatory mental health screenings for the entire population.

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:21 AM
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1. I'll approve
only if every member of the Bush empire goes first.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:22 AM
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3. Took the words out of my mouth
:evilgrin:
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:54 AM
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6. They will pass the test.
One will have to be a Conservative to pass the test.
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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:22 AM
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2. Anything with the label "New Freedom" can only mean the exact OPPOSITE
with this bunch of wackos.:scared:
Also, I haven't seen anything about it, but I wonder if "faith based" psych counselors are going to be used (and benefit) from this? Just wonderin'...
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:27 AM
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4. link
to another thread that was posted yesterday with some info about the program:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4256491
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 10:51 AM
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5. Thanks
I'm on my way out the door, but will check the other thread when I return.
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 11:27 AM
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7. nominated
nt
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:39 PM
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8. doubtless anyone who refuses will be called a terrorist
Since no one's getting up and doing anything it's time to run.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 12:45 PM
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9. Here are some links I've collected on this subject
Edited on Thu Aug-04-05 12:45 PM by Eloriel
People, CornField is dead on: PAY ATTENTION TO THIS. The Bush Family has a long association with pharmaceuticals, eugenics, etc., and these pharmaceuticals are NOT your friends. After you chew ont hat for awhile, ask yourself this: Neither George W. Bush nor this Republican-controlled Congress have ever done ANYthing that truly benefits everyday Americans. WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY SUDDENLY BE INTERESTED IN YOUR MENTAL HEALTH?????

Bill would force mentally ill to take their meds (Maine)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1567351&mesg_id=1567351

Feel free to freak out now
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3891897
Link: Mental Health Screening in Schools Signals the End of Parental Rights
http://www.sierratimes.com/05/05/16/24_209_102_203_25370.htm

Mental Illness Affects Many (SETUP for BUSH's New Freedom Commission)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1527795#1527829
see also: A sane voice shouts NO to Bush's 'mental health' plan by Underground Panther in the Sky, Unknown News

Attempt to stop mandatory mental screening fails
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1018271
Link: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41606

Congress Funds Mandatory Psychological Tests for Kids
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1018998
Link: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/22/215244.shtml

Lawmaker tries to block mental-health screening
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1002593
Link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41511

Calling all DU mental health professionals
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2415082

'Ritalin bill' advances; some call it unneeded
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3064783

Is mandatory mental health testing the beginning of the end ?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2413903&mesg_id=2413903

Mandatory Mental Health Screening Threatens Privacy, Parental Rights
Friday, September 17, 2004
By Wendy McElroy
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,132397,00.html

Action Alert: Mental-health screening of children
http://www.thelibertycommittee.org/update09.07.04.htm

Doctors Group Opposes Mandatory Mental Health Tests for Kids
Dave Eberhart, NewsMax.com
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/11/140125.shtml

Bush plans to screen whole U.S. population for mental illness
Sweeping initiative links diagnoses to treatment with specific drugs
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39078

Here's Myths and Facts (in HTML instead of pdf)
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:qCfh17b3GX8J:www.edaction.org/images/Mental%2520Health%2520Briefing%2520Myths%2520and%2520Facts.pdf+Mental+health+screening+schools&hl=en&client=firefox-a

STOP SCHOOL-BASED MENTAL HEALTH SCREENING
Tell Your Representative to vote YES on the Paul Amendment
http://www.eagleforum.org/alert/2004/Mental-Health-9-08-04.html

I think you could ignore all these rightwing objections if this were some Democratic initiative, but it's not.

Here are three LBN discussions:
Attempt to stop mandatory mental screening fails
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1018271
Link: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41606

Congress Funds Mandatory Psychological Tests for Kids
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1018998
Link: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/11/22/215244.shtml

Lawmaker tries to block mental-health screening
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1002593
Link: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41511



Edited: Here are some GD links:

Calling all DU mental health professionals
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2415082

'Ritalin bill' advances; some call it unneeded
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=3064783

Is mandatory mental health testing the beginning of the end ?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=2413903&mesg_id=2413903
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 05:32 PM
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10. Thank you so much for all those links
This should be one of those things that crosses party lines. Why aren't people outraged?
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-04-05 05:43 PM
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11. Big payoffs to Big Pharma, and furtther methods of control. Psycho State
11. Freedom Commission Roadmap Awaited
The release of the first iteration of the roadmap to operationalize the findings of the President’s New Freedom Commission on Mental Health is imminent. We will disseminate the document when it is unveiled. On a related note, the British Medical Journal, in anticipation of the roll-out, alleged in a disjointed story that the Bush administration will announce a plan to screen all Americans for mental disorders and promote antidepressant and antipsychotic drug use – allegations which we are told are well beyond the scope of anything the administration has planned and which seem to stem from a psychiatric survivors group. The BMJ story has gained some traction in derivative reports on the Internet, though mainstream media have not touched the story, in part thanks to APA’s work, for which the administration is appreciative.

http://www.psych.org/join_apa/mb/newsletters/advocacy/AdvNewsJuly2004.htm#21

The Psycho State
by Rep. Ron Paul, MD (R, Texas)
 A presidential initiative called The “New Freedom Commission on Mental Health” has issued a report recommending forced mental health screening for every child in America, including preschool children. The goal is to promote the patently false idea that we have a nation of children with undiagnosed mental disorders crying out for treatment.

One obvious beneficiary of the proposal is the pharmaceutical industry, which is eager to sell the psychotropic drugs that undoubtedly will be prescribed to millions of American schoolchildren under the new screening program. Of course a tiny minority of children suffer from legitimate mental illnesses, but the widespread use of Ritalin and other drugs on youngsters who simply exhibit typical rambunctious, fidgety, and impatient behavior is nothing short of criminal. It may be easier to teach and parent drugged kids, but convenience is no justification for endangering them. Children’s brains are still developing, and the truth is we have no idea what the long-term side effects of psychiatric drugs may be. Medical science has not even exhaustively identified every possible brain chemical, even as we alter those chemicals with drugs.

Dr. Karen Effrem, a physician who strongly opposes mandatory mental health screening, warns us that “America’s children should not be medicated by expensive, ineffective, and dangerous medications based on vague and dubious diagnoses.” She points out that psychiatric diagnoses are inherently subjective, as authors of the diagnostic manuals admit. She also is concerned that mental health screening could be used to label children whose attitudes, religious beliefs, and political views conflict with the secular orthodoxy that dominates our schools.

The greater issue, however, is not whether youth mental health screening is appropriate. The real issue is whether the state owns your kids. When the government orders “universal” mental health screening in schools, it really means “mandatory.” Parents, children, and their private doctors should decide whether a child has mental health problems, not government bureaucrats. That this even needs to be stated is a sign of just how obedient our society has become toward government. What kind of free people would turn their children’s most intimate health matters over to government strangers? How in the world have we allowed government to become so powerful and arrogant that it assumes it can force children to accept psychiatric treatment whether parents object or not?

Con't-
September 14, 2004
Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul203.html
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Chief Inmate declares nation an asylum Prozac-popping prez recommends mandated mental health screening for all Americans
http://proliberty.com/observer/20040806.htm
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How about Just dosing the general public directly?


Anti-Depressant 'Found in Drinking Water'
Sun 8 Aug 2004
By Jennifer Sym, PA News
Britons could unwittingly be swallowing traces of anti-depressant Prozac and other drugs in drinking water, according to a report released today.
Environmentalists have labelled the situation “hidden mass medication of the unsuspecting public” after the study states pharmaceutical residues can travel through the sewage system and end up in the “aquatic environment”.

The levels of any such residue is unknown, and the Environment Agency has called on the drugs industry to prove its products are unlikely to cause significant harm to the environment.
According to the study by Norman Baker MP, Liberal Democrat shadow environment secretary, Prozac has been found by the EA to be “both toxic and persistent” and “a substance that could be of potential concern”.
There has been a 166% increase in prescriptions for anti-depressants in England since 1991 – up to 24 million a year.

Con't-
http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=3310754



BBC Article-Prozac 'found in drinking water'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3545684.stm

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LLINOIS launches compulsory mental health screening -WHY YOU NEED TO BE CONCERNED
Commentary by Laura Dawn Lewis
http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/2004/BigBrotherPregnancy.htm  
If you haven't noticed yet, the majority of new laws and policies being implemented are sold on fear through the necessity of good intentions and as a way to protect you by allowing your government to take care of you, as if the government is a better steward of your body, soul and mind. Each is euphemized to seem harmless and necessary.  Every time a law is passed, you give up a portion of your freedom.  This is a fact.  Some laws are necessary to allow society to function toward a common good.  Laws like murder is bad.  Stealing is unjust and beating a child unacceptable.  These create the commonalities that define civilization. 
Since September 11th, 2001 our governments, state, local and federal continue to push through resolutions, legislation and ideas directly in contradiction to the rules we've already established for America, set forth in our Constitution.  In effect, each of these chips at our civil liberties, forcing us further away from our values and principles.  This law in Illinois represents one such example.  Without a doubt the women pushing it through created it with the best of intentions; yet anytime something becomes mandatory, intentions become abuses.  The following are the key reasons I believe the citizens of Illinois and the rest of us in the United States must object to this legislation.  If we allow it to pass in one state without confronting it, others will follow.

http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/2004/BigBrotherPregnancy.htm
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