Santorum loses it on the Brian Leher Show...

[Rainscents]

Santorum loses it on the Brian Leher Show

The Brian Lehrer Show on WNYC had Rick on today to discuss his new book. A C&L frenchman named Joel reports: The twenty-minute interview started off fairly calm but grew increasingly more heated as the
conversation went on.



"The fabulous snarky Lehrer started jabbing an obviously frustrated and annoyed Santorum when the topic turned to the abortion issue. By the time they got on the rights of gays, Santorum was virtually yelling at
Lehrer. Santorum reiterated his assertion that gay sex is never consensual and that it is a kin to bigamy, polygamy, incest, or adultery. At that point, Lehrer let loose and brought up the fact that Santorum's Chief of Staff just came out of the closet. Santorum was pissed off that Lehrer brought this up."

Capitol Buzz has Rick's NPR spot as and says that Santorum plays the victim!



Use this link! http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/08042005

Listen to AUDIO!!! Oh man, this guy is getting real pisst!!! LOL

:rofl:

[wryter2000]

1. OMG

And Novak. What a great day for frustrated wingnuts.

[Stephanie]

2. Lehrer is on WNYC

It will air again tonight - www.wnyc.org

[Greeby]

3. Loses it?

Didn't know he ever had it ;)

[BeeBee]

4. "gay sex is never consensual"

Don't tell my husband!

[gkhouston]

8. I was thinking of calling some friends of mine

a gay couple (obviously) and asking them which one has been raping the other for the last nineteen years. Or perhaps they take turns. "No, dammit, it's Thursday, it's my turn to be the Ravishing Avenger."

[catzies]

17. LOL! "Ravishing Avenger!" If I needed a new DU handle that would be it

:D

[Jane Austin]

97. Um, Ravishing means beautiful, gorgeous and

perhaps you are, but is that what you mean? :)

[BeeBee]

22. Ooooohhhhh... "Ravishing Avenger"

Sounds like some good role-playing to me.

[Montauk6]

57. Sounds more like some 90s coming-of-age movie

[TomClash]

80. Remade Starring Rick Santorum nt

[Kalish]

12. what does that mean?

on what basis can he make such a statement?

[SalmonChantedEvening]

23. The "I'm an ignorant, intolerant ass" basis. n/t

[Logician]

82. It means that for him, he is shamed by his experience with gay sex

Men like him, who are consistent and vocal opponents of gay sex, often times have secrets in their closets. I would not be surprised that Santorum was seduced into or initiated gay sex as an adult, and is self-hating-- not being able to reconcile his enjoyment of sex with another man.

Thus, the anger is externalized and becomes a campaign. How many times have we found strong opponents of gay rights to be closeted self-hating gay men?

Need I say more? I think not. We should just smear him with the buzz that he is likely to be gay himself, and unable to accept that part of him.

[SmokingJacket]

42. Someone should ask him if he has experience or something.

I mean, of all the nerve.

[electron_blue]

48. that quote makes me think Santorum has a gay past

that he blames on the other guy.

[elperromagico]

76. That's an interesting take on it.

Perhaps he "experimented" in college...

[arcane1]

5. their audio link isn't working

:evilfrown:

[skooooo]

6. The link takes you to 100s of audio files...

which one is it??

[Rainscents]

11. Try this one... I did updated new link.

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/08042005

[arcane1]

thaks, but that's a Real Audio file

:evilfrown:

[Rainscents]

13. I updated new link... Here is the link!

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/08042005

[Rainscents]

14. I updated new link... Here is the link!

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/08042005

[quiet.american]

7. Is Santorum "converted?"

Lately, there have been a few radio segments focusing on the effects of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest-type "conversion" programs (gay to straight) run by the usual suspects -- religious fanatics.

Santorum has always seemed to me to be one of these "converts."

His remark that gay sex is never consensual sounds like the kind of ignorance that could easily come out of one of their program manuals.

[sui generis]

15. not converted - just closeted and hating himself

he is not free to do anything but try to take away everyone else's freedoms.

He's in for a rude awakening - first of all, it ain't gonna happen, and secondly, if he wants to be frustrated for the rest of his life that we (gays and single moms & dads and couples who aren't married)do apparently have wholesome happy lives in spite of dickheads like him, then he should just keep believing the crap he spouts -- it's not going to change reality.

The kind of reality he wants is what is reality in Afghanistan, or Iran, not America.

[FreedomAngel82]

49. Surely makes one wonder

How does he know?

[tinfoilinfor2005]

68. Give me a break...no self respecting gay man would ever

dress like Santorum.

[mikeytherat]

86. True, but a self-hating gay man just might...

Hell, if he really hated himself, he'd style his hair like Lil' Ricky's!

mikey_the_rat

[helderheid]

9. can't get the audio link to work

Access forbidden!
You don't have permission to access the requested directory. There is either no index document or the directory is read-protected.

If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster.

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movies.crooksandliars.com
Thu Aug 4 14:41:13 2005
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[Rainscents]

10. Try this link...

http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/08042005

[I_Make_Mistakes]

16. Click on the CapitalBuzz hyperlink

I got access denied on the audio option also.

[Memekiller]

18. Things looking up in wingnutsville...

...since, as we all know, up is down over there.

[HootieMcBoob]

19. Wow it's a total right-wing meltdown day

can't be good for the environment :P

[rodeodance]

21. and douchbag Novak melted down on Cnn today. my my!!!

[NoPasaran]

30. Don't these things come in threes?

Who is the next douchebag for liberty to go ballistic?

[Dulcinea]

84. Rove, I hope. eom

[Incitatus]

102. Hannity!!!

[ngGale]

109. Hannity .... from your mouth ...

to God's ears. Wouldn't it be lovely?!:popcorn:

[sendero]

78. I think ..

... the Hackett situation tells even the stupidest puke that the game is all but over. They are frustrated and angry that their reign of stupidity and corruption is about to end.

Isn't it delicious :)

[dhinojosa]

20. Can you give me a minute and seconds mark so I don't have

to put up with Santorum's voice all that much?

[Cats Against Frist]

24. This should be required listening for every American

At the end, when Leher makes him re-read the "left's" definition of freedom -- which is BEAUTIFUL, and is IS, in fact, the definition of freedom, toward which the Enlightenment reached -- it is clear that Santorum is a fascist -- and the guy calls him out on it. "So -- you're saying that YOU get to decide what the moral code is," and all he can say is -- "you don't think that everyone running around doing what they want doesn't affect me???"

If we could get every American to understand some basic liberty 101, and play Rick Santorum for them, it would be easy-squeezy to peel anyone with a rational mind from the GOP.

Of course -- that is assuming that there is still anyone sticking with them that has a rational mind.

[Synnical]

38. I agree - this is astounding audio

Santorum is clearly illogical in this interview. He sounds like a bible-toting preacher, not a US Senator. He's a disgrace.

After listening to this, I don't know if I want to punch the wall or vomit.

Thanks for posting, Rainscents. :hi:

Edit to add thanks.

[Rainscents]

70. Your welcome!!!

:hi:

[devilgrrl]

25. This guy makes my stomach turn

I pray that god smites him with lightning. What a disgusting excuse for a human being! :puke:

[LSK]

26. this guy sounds SOOO much like a NAZI

Marriage is only to raise strong children for the fatherland.

I didnt hear much of a meltdown, just more of his nonsense.

[PA Democrat]

27. Santorum is so amazingly illogical

First it is radical feminists that tell women they are worthless if they don't have a career. Lehrer questions him on why he is placing the responsibility of staying home to raise kids strictly on women, Santorum quotes stats that show the the majority of working mothers would rather stay home with their kids. HUH?????


Then when Lehrer asks why they are working if they'd rather stay home, Santorum blames liberal Hollywood for making families greedy and want more material goods. Then when Lehrer says perhaps it is more about providing their families' basic needs, then Santorum blames liberals for raising taxes. He says the increased tax burden to fund all those crazy liberal programs are forcing mothers into the workplace. Lehrer reminded him that the tax burden has been shifted from the rich to the middle class.

What an idiot. Santorum has voted for every single bloated Pentagon budget proposed. He has voted against increases to the minimum wage. Everything is the fault of those evil liberals.

Oh, he also blamed "the divorce culture" on liberals. I guess that's why you never see any Republican politicians divorcing their wives. :crazy: Damn those evil liberals for forcing Newt Gingrich and Rudy Giuliani and Bob Barr and Bob Dole who Henry Hyde and Mitch McConnell and John Warner and Kit Bond and Ben Nighthorse and Kay Bailey Hutchison and John McCain and Rush Limbaugh and Ronald Reagan to get divorced!

[LSK]

28. just another repuke speaks while leaving out lots of facts

The thing about tax burden got me good. I'd like to know exactly what liberal policy created more of a tax burden then the defense spending of the 80s.

And then a caller had an excellent point that some parents have to work just to get benefits of health coverage. How would Santorum vote on national health care. That would certainly help families wouldnt it?

[Rainscents]

34. Yes, he is one sick man!

Santorum hates women!

[PA Democrat]

36. Lehrer caught him a number of times making such blatantly sexist remarks

that Santorum had to contradict his earlier statements to "prove" he wasn't a sexist. Santorum noted that his own mother worked and actually made more money than his dad for some time. I wonder if Ricky feels his own Mommy short-changed him. Rick should spend some time with a shrink and work out his own issues (of which there appear to be QUITE a few) before he tries to impose his own twisted rules of morality on the rest of the country.

[Dulcinea]

83. He also hates himself.

Bet he's a closet case.

And he certainly has nothing but contempt for women. Wonder what Mrs. Santorum thinks about that? Of course, she's very busy with cyber-schooling their 6 (living) children, so maybe she has no time to wonder.

[Gronk Groks]

87. Santorum hates everyone who isn't a WASP...

...his only saving grace is that he is an equal opportunity hater.

After all the GOP smears, I suppose spreading the rumor that Santorum's campaign manager and Santorum were having an affair would be unethical ???:evilgrin:

[Rainscents]

96. Ummm, that's a thought! LOL

:evilgrin:

[Gronk Groks]

98. Trouble is we have more morals than the reThugs...

...even though THEY say they are the Moral Majority.

But the Devil on my shoulder keeps telling me to spread the rumor anyway...

...anyone know how ???:nopity:

[wildwww2]

29. Well Mr. Santorum, my rep Mark Foley is gay. Why are you not pushing

him out of your bigoted party? Oh maybe because if your a freaking repuke it is ok? Boycott the Republican party. They are the biggest batch of hypocrites to ever slither along the ground of the earth. And I am not bashing gays by any means. But Mark Foley is the worst rep a Floridian could have IMHO.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[Fla4kerry]

44. Mark Foley is my Rep too

I can't wait to see him go down. Several new Dem candidates are signing on board. It's about time..
Turning Fla Blue 2006!!!
Can't wait to see Santorium crash very hard and than he'll have alot of time on his hands to raise his kids....

[wildwww2]

59. That is good news. I will always vote against him that is for sure.

Yes to turn Florida blue and send Santorum to raise his kids would be a good thing.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President

[Broken_Hero]

31. Give that hypocrite some...

Hell to pay. RS is just a RW nut job, trying to stir his base, RW Conservatives, and oh my, what a hypocrite he is, i wish i could debate this man on live tv, it would be a hoot!....

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

32. Somebody please bone this idiot up the ass so he will finally come out!

[nookiemonster]

77. LOL. No shit!

C'mon Rickie. Ya know ya wanna.

:spank:

[ronnykmarshall]

33. Right wingers are losing it today!!

I wonder how his lap dog self hating gay staffer feels about this?

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. Gay sex is never concensual?????!!!!!

What a damn nut job. Lock him up! Now, off to listen to his fit! They're falling apart. The party is IMPLODING!!!!!!!! :bounce:

[frictionlessO]

37. Taking the heat off Hastert? This plus Novak all in the same day???

It's an interesting convergence of insanity if nothing else.

[Rose Siding]

39. Geeze- check out the picture on his website

Get air brushed much?



-reminds me of billboards we used drive past on the interstate in the 50s

[stevietheman]

40. Hmmm....

It's interesting how on the one hand, he thinks "intelligent (stupid) design" should stay out of the science classroom, then on the other, he asserts that gay sex isn't consensual. What is the term for a brain that keeps flipping between rational and irrational thought?

[Pystoff]

41. Fecal Matterman

He made a big boo boo near the end that wasn't taken into account because of the time clock running out on the interviewer that I would nixed the clock for it were me. Fecal Matterman made a case against goverment intervention on taxes but was wanting government intervention in private life on gay marriage. I woulda taken him to task right there and maybe forgotten a caller or two. Government has a place when it comes to taxes but nowhere did the founding fathers say governemnt has place in your private life and that infact is a main basis of conservative doctrine and thrown that in his face. Either you own up to authoritarian values or you back off and be a true conservative and watched Fecal Matterman squirm on that one for all to hear but not let him spin off the hook. These nazi's don't even know the meaning of conservatism in the slightest anymore.

[FreedomAngel82]

43. Santorum is a nut case

I hope all his republican supporters are seeing what a nut this guy is. Oh and from my understanding majority of the time isn't polgymoy also concensuel and swingers and things like that? Maybe Santorum isn't getting any at home.

[HockeyMom]

45. Maybe Mrs. Santorum has decided 7 is enough?

In which case, NO ARTIFICIAL BIRTH CONTROL = NO SEX. Oh, wait, forgot the Administration Policy: FAITHFULNESS IN MARRIAGE. I guess that solves it all? Who needs BC if you don't CHEAT? ROFL

Have fun until MENOPAUSE, Little Ricky!!!!!

[Cocoa]

46. Santorum doesn't sound very confident in his views

it doesn't sound like he has a lot of experience talking to intelligent interviewers.

I've never heard Lehrer before, he's very good.

[noamnety]

47. How can he claim the Chief of Staff is not relevant?

Santorum believes his Chief of Staff is a serial rapist, and he's okay with that. Sounds like a values problem.

:)

[Orion The Hunter]

62. Moral quandry

lwfern, your comment is priceless!

[NMMNG]

50. I caught the tail end of Sanctimonium's whining on NPR this morning

I was rolling my eyes the whole time :eyes: . The funny thing was that since I came across it without having heard the announcement of who it was I didn't know at first who was speaking. However after hearing the nature of the blather I thought to myself, "This just has to be that bastard Santorum". Sure enough after he stopped ranting the host noted that it indeed had been him.


And gay sex is never consensual? I'll have to tell that to my friend Mike, my friend Paula and her partner--and myself for that matter. Santorum is a nutcase. :crazy:

[amb123]

51. It must be wonderful to know that God supports your views, Mr. Santorum!

Notice that I said MR. Santorum, not SEN. Santorum. As soon as he starts acting like a Senator, then I'll call him Senator and not one split second before.

Anyway, he didn't Vesuvius all over the place but he sounded so annoyed that anyone, let alone the radio host, would dare contradict him. His frustration was like that of the person who thinks, "How DARE you contradict ME! Its the same as contradicting the Lord God Almighty!" It's the typical Its-All-The Liberals-Fault-That-I-Can't-Beat-Up-My-Wife-Because-She-Dares-Think-For-Herself-Anymore argument of the Christian Fascist Right. Ho Hum!

:sarcasm:

[MrScorpio]

52. Santorum is Latin for Asshole

'Nuff said

[kbm8795]

53. OMG...this man is a fascist

and doesn't even realize it ! ! !

When he quoted that passage from Planned Parenthood about individual right to our own spiritual journey, he went absolutely looney---someone else's life choices "influence" his OWN morality. . .

This isn't a public leader - this is an insecure child.
He needs to be voted out of office and confined to the 700 Club.

[kbm8795]

54. Let's see here. . .he's into class structure, with him at the top

He honestly thinks that gays are supposed to sacrifice our lives in order to protect the insecurity of heterosexuals...he advocates that everyone be virtually forced to believe the same things for everyone's lives, like this is 1950.

The "ideal" of marriage. . .that would be the "ideal" of the old 19th century coverups of alcoholism and wifebeating.

OMG. . .the conversation about his communications director. . .please...please...someone ASK Ricky WHY he hasn't sent the man to the infamous reparative therapy camps?

We don't have the right to consensual activity. . . we need to seek his approval for our own choices. Yep - he hates the right to privacy for anyone's home. . .he hates consensual sex. Wonder what his past is?

[kbm8795]

55. OMG..he DID ask about sending him to get cured ! ! !

I see...he doesn't talk about it with his gay staffer. . .well, how would you tell your own assistant that you think he should be considered less valuable than other citizens?

I get the feeling that he believes the only role gays have in society is to quietly do the wives hair, design pretty dresses for them, help make products to keep a man looking clean and pay higher taxes to give heterosexual "families" the opulent life they deserve as the "ideal" in society.

[Montauk6]

56. Help me out here? How can gay sex NEVER be consensual?

And due to it being akin to adultery, would he also go as far as saying that adultery is never consensual as well?

Why not just go back to "all sex is rape"???

[culturalelite]

114. did I miss something?

I listened to the show, but I never heard him say that gay sex or any other kind of sex was never consensual. If I understood his rant, he was arguing that the Supreme Court erred in saying that people have a right to consensual sex, because that would imply that people have a right to bigamy, adultery, incest, etc. He is, of course, a bigot for not recognizing the right of gays to marry and to raise children. Santorum wants to deny, e.g., a lesbian the right to get pregnant, have a baby, and raise her child with her partner in a loving home. He's says that he's concerned about the children, but I don't quite see how the child in my example would be better off never existing.

[napi21]

58. Fed taxes in the 50's were 2%????

I entered the work force in 1961, and the taxes sure weren't anywhere close to 2%!

I guess he thinks everybody forgot!

The second wage earner in the household earns 25% of what the first earner makes???? Where did he hear THAT?

God, I hope the people in Pa. are listening to this!!!!

[Rainscents]

60. Everyone should listen to this nut case... You know, he is going to

run for '08 election. It would make people's head spin. :crazy:

[napi21]

63. He might not if he looses in PA in 2006!

You know how sad it is when a candidate can't even win his home state!

I'm looking forward to Casey beathing his butt in the 2006 race in Pa. Casey's leading in the polls right now, and that's not a good sign when the people of Pa know Ricky a lot better than they know Bob Casey!

[mcscajun]

115. 2%? the man is delusional as well as ignorant.

During the Great Depression and World War II, the top income tax rate rose, reaching 91% during the war; this top rate remained in effect until 1964.

1964 - the top rate was decreased to 70%, and then to 50% in 1981.

[Tsiyu]

61. What happens to people?

To make them give a shit what other adults are doing in their homes? Really? I want to know.

The thought of Santorum having sex sickens me more than any thought I could have right now. He obviously hates sex; maybe Mommy told him it was dirty or he thinks about boys when he gets a woody or something, but for Christ's sake, I would never want to pass a law to keep some poor slob from having sex with Santorum if they really wanted to.

Why are orgasms so scary to these people? Because when he says "the pursuit of happiness" has destroyed America and is harming his tender soul, what he means is, people are having orgasms all over the nation in the privacy of their homes in ways Santorum finds offensive. Orgasms! Imagine?

What screw comes loose in these nuts that they give a shit what anyone else does in private? It just never made sense to me unless they were just horribly raised or they have mental issues.

[lolly]

65. "Fun" = Loss of Control

When people are having fun--real, let-loose, not-at-other-people's-expense fun, they're out of control.

People having fun don't want to follow orders, bow to authoritarian dictates, or control everybody else.

That's why they hate marijuana, and they hate the idea of sex for pleasure.

[Tsiyu]

67. But who taught them that joy is a bad thing?

Doesn't their bible state that joy is one of the "fruits of the spirit?"

So what the hell is so bad about a little joy? However you shake it out?

Didn't they ever read "Song of Songs?"

I ask because they seem to want to "please god" by forcing everyone else to live as they do, yet the god of the bible didn't seem to think sex was such an awful thing. I mean, David had a bejillion wives and concubines. And they still quote his Psalms today???????

So where does all this "sex is bad" stuff come from? I can only assume it is from bad parenting or confusion over their own sexuality?

**Me, who has no psych credentials but who tries to analyze these creatures anyhoo....**

[kbm8795]

69. Well, it sure isn't decent christianity. . .

What he doesn't want to talk about is the seemingly endless voyeuristic special rights that Republican men want to reserve for themselves, particularly in peering into the private affairs of others.

Frankly, I can't understand where the Right is coming from on this issue. The government HAS to set an "ideal" for relationships in order to encourage marriage and a "proper" two-parent family household. Well, 1,100 benefits and privileges set in legal stone later, and the divorce rate hovers around 50% with no sign of abating. Obviously, all this special government treatment hasn't done much to encourage people to honor their commitments.

So that leaves what seems most obvious to me - once the gays are put back into the closet and told they are only allowed to become hairdressers and interior decoraters, the straights will be told that the State, in order to encourage the ideal, will now step in and select your marriage partners. Then they'll pass special legislation granting ONLY the state the right to arbitrarily petition to dissolve a marriage, meaning, the Schiavo Act - you know, if a bunch of church members proclaim that you've been an unsuitable husband, that's all the State needs whether you want a divorce or not.

I'm sick and tired of these people. They chose their own wacko religious beliefs - and if they are frustrated because people think they belong in the nuthouse, too bad. They made this lifestyle choice for themselves - not for me. And no decent, truly patriotic American is gonna allow them to make those choices for anyone else, either.

If they don't the moral strength to live their lives and raise their family without the rest of us being forced to fawn over them constantly and make sacrifices of our OWN lives, then they need to seek out another religious belief - because this one hasn't met their addictive need for constant attention.

[keopeli]

64. I listened to the whole thing and I never heard Santorum "lose it"

From all the bravado on here, I expected a temper tantrum from Santorum, or at least a rebuke. But, he held himself together throughout the very challenging question and answer session.

I couldn't disagree more with what this guy is saying about gay people and consensual sex, but saying he "lost it" is a bit overkill. It was a lively debate...just the kind that I like the most.

Kudos to Rick for asking real, thoughtful and deliberate questions while allowing the guest to express his view completely.

[NJCher]

71. you mean Leonard

Leonard Lopate was the host.

Lopate has built a reputation over the yaers for being factual, unbiased and very well informed.


Cher

[sonicx]

73. You're joking right?

What sane person says gay sex is never consentual?

[keopeli]

75. A sane person whose culture won't allow him to do so and who respects his

culture. I have no problem with understanding Santorum. Have you ever had a conversation with a Mormon? To him or her, gay sex is not consensual because it simply can't be imagined. It is beyond his comprehension. This does not make him insane. It may make him some other things, but not insane. In fact, it's quite common.

The reality is that we all live in the same country and we need to find a way to communicate with each other without pissing everyone off who's sitting in the room.

Now, I want Santorum's slimy butt OUT of the senate because I think his philosophy on how to govern and write laws is totally messed up and causes people to suffer. Plus, I think he is in very bad company regarding his political tactics and philosophy. It's akin to the dishonest and malicious style of Bush.

All that being said, I didn't hear the man get upset or "lose it" during the interview.

[Sentath]

85. I disagree

But don't feel it too significant.

It does however disqualify them for membership in the reality based community! ( :

[keopeli]

104. Regarding reality, you are spot on!

[Nabia2004]

95. keopeli, I totally agree with you - nt

[lumpy]

101. They do come slithering out at night.

x

[keopeli]

106. You've got me pegged, lumpy. I am certainly a night owl!

Regards
Keo

[keopeli]

105. Thanks, Nabia

And it looks like you're new around here, so welcome.

And it's good to have company, too. Mahalo, Keo

[lumpy]

100. Gay sex is not consentual to a Morman?

Beyond comprehenion? If a Morman or anyone else can't comprehend reality then I would have to say it is insane. One definition of insanity is loss of touch with reality. It is certainly a reality that gay people engage in sex on a consentual basis. If you can't believe that then you are living in some different world. A world of denial if nothing else.

[keopeli]

107. I agree, they are living in a world of denial at the least.

But, I don't begrudge them their fantasy. I just don't want to live with that world view.

Now, I'm a gay man, and I know that it's consensual. If they'd just ask me, then they'd have their answer! But, it doesn't work that way. I think they have to envision themselves doing it to digest the reality of the situation, and that's so repulsive to them that they refuse. They'll call it names and curse the reality so they don't have to deal with it.

BUT, I believe in the liberty of free thought and even lifestyle. I want that, so I can give them that, too. I just want their hands off the laws, because their philosophies harbor fear which leads to real abuse.

Still, if they have a hard time seeing what in the world is pleasurable about gay sex and can therefore only define it as an aggressor and a victim, then I pity their ignorance. But I can live with that too.

I want the free country I grew up believing we had.

Santorum doesn't.

That's the bottom line.

[ProudDad]

113. Insane

insane - afflicted with or characteristic of mental derangement; "was declared insane"; "insane laughter"

irrational - not consistent with or using reason; "irrational fears"; "irrational animals"

unreasonable - not reasonable; not showing good judgment

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I think "irrational" and "not showing good judgement" could apply to this wing-nut

[area51]

66. "gay sex is never consensual"?

Psycho Santorum said:

"... gay sex is never consensual".

Oh, really? You mean you've personally interviewed every single gay person on the face of this earth & they've told you that? :eyes:

[bleever]

72. Clearly, Santorum is channeling his soul-mate: Andrea Dworkin.

Okay, pop quiz: who's the "top" in THIS relationship?

(Sorry, it's late.)

[raysr]

74. I just listened to

to the whole thing. What a f-in lyin' sob. The callers had him nailed.

[NuttyFluffers]

79. *snort* Closet getting stuffy, Santorum?

I know it's been hot these past few weeks and all...

[Ambrose]

81. His definition of "a villiage" is the same as what Hillary said.

"For Bill and me, there has been no experience more challenging, more rewarding, and more humbling than raising our daughter.

And we have learned that to raise a happy, healthy and hopeful child, it takes a family, it takes teachers, it takes clergy, it takes business people, it takes community leaders, it takes those who protect our health and safety, it takes all of us.

Yes, it takes a village.

And it takes a president. It takes a president who believes not only in the potential of his own child, but of all children - who believes not only in the strength of his own family, but of the American family, who believes not only in the promise of each of us as individuals, but in our promise together as a nation. It takes a president who not only holds these beliefs but acts on them. It takes Bill Clinton. "

[Gronk Groks]

90. Hallelujah, you've hit the nail on the head !!!

I want to take BACK the family issue. You don't send our sons and daughter's into a unnecessary war and call yourself pro-family !!!

It takes all of us to raise our children. Not just the parents but ALL OF US. I'm sick and tired of people in the retirement community not voting for school bonds because they don't have children in school. I'm tired of reThugs pushing religion in school instead of education because it contradicts their holy book. I'm tired of "*"'s No Child Left Behind Fiasco without funding.

I'm pro-family and I'm a Democrat...and proud of it !!!!

[lumpy]

103. Me too! And I did take BACK my family.

I have two sons, a daughter-in-law to be and a grandchild living in my home, out of their necessity; rather like a village. This is what a family is supposed to be. And I am one of those retired people of the retirement community who vote for school bonds. I am tired of people like Rick Santorum and the idiots who support the idiot trying to foist their regressive morals off on the rest of humanity.

[Hobarticus]

88. I gotta say, he did not come across very well, at all...

Maybe he didn't lose it, per se, but he really showed his true colors: a very narrow, intolerant and frightened little man who needs to just fade away from public life.

Rick, go on back to your safe little church bake sale. Leave your office with dignity.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

89. Your description of this interview is grossly exagerated IMO

I listened to the whole stupid thing. I didn't hear him "lose it". He stuck to his stupid line of thinking all the way. You would have to be idioically single minded (like B**) to think that way anyway. You made it sound like he flipped out and walked out. What a waste of time listening to that bullshit.

[Ambrose]

94. I agree n/t

[Democracy White]

91. I keep missing every damn thing!!!

I think it's about time that these wing-nuts started going into meltdown mode. Perhaps when and if they reach critical mass then things will look up for the Dems and the 2006 elections.

Dee

[Burried News]

92. Rick -Rick -Rick, what's the matter boy, the election gettin a little

tight. Loosen up lad. Let Pink Floyd help you with this. You know how we hate to see you in pain.

[Burried News]

93. Zippidy do dah zippidy yea, wonder which Rethug will get unzipped

today.

[JRob]

99. perfect, Novak and now Santorum... TURN UP THE HEAT ! ! !

[Solar]

108. well I think we need to relook at things a bit

Santorum did raise his voice, but in a normal way. It wasn't screaming through. He spoke passionatly, but he didn't loose his temper imo. I also didn't pick up the part where he said that gay sex cannot be consensual. Is there a time in the audio I can hear that or was it paraphrased?

But for every other point, everyones right. Santorum had a horrible arguement. It was nothing but playing the victim, jumping off-topic and "Neocon Catchphrase."

[phylny]

110. I love this verb: Monetizing.

Did he "monitize" his home school district having it pay for "homeschooling" while his kids lived in a perfectly good district in Loudoun County?

[xchrom]

111. millions of americans think exactly like him.

and that's the scary part to me.
like bush, they'll follow off the edge.

[phylny]

112. So, his gay staffer's "personal life" is his "personal life"

but everyone else in the U.S. does NOT have a right to their "personal lives"?

:crazy: