CBS news last night

[The Blue Flower]

If someone already posted this, sorry I'm such a latecomer. During the story about the occupation, the CBS Pentagon correspondent said that BOTH sides--the US and the insurgents--have reached a point at which they cannot defeat the other militarily.

[charlyvi]

1. That's called a "Quagmire"

They don't have to defeat us militarily. The North Vietnamese never defeated us militarily. They just have to outlast us. Seeing as how we're in THEIR country, that doesn't seem to difficult to accomplish.

[hippiechick]

2. OMG, I LOVE your graphic !!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[HereSince1628]

3. The difference is to win politically insurgencies just can't lose

while the problem for the US is that anything short of complete victory is a domestic and international political loss.

That is why Iraq has gone the same way as Vietnam.

[PATRICK]

4. The truth rings silly

Of course the insurgents can't win be conventional methods but I think they have a better chance with their present tactics of removing the US and eventually toppling the regime than the "invincible" US has in keeping a permanent shooting range with a bleeding out of all military potential world wide.

In point, the insurgency does not despair because it can win and the US cannot simply persist because it is losing in other ways that are unsustainable. A long drawn out Pyrrhic victory indeed. We won, now retreat because the weakening results mean we are beaten. In an insurgency, like the American Revolution for any history buffs mentally alive in the WH, wins by surviving. Meanwhile the dominant military is left to discover new ways of losing until it turns tail. The insurgents persist for a future country, for peace. The dominant military cannot get trapped in an unwinnable war, a rationality denied for its very justification.

Too complex for CBS yet. The gosh geewhilikers dumbfoundedness is just part of the stuff caught in the flushing toilet.

[leftchick]

5. Here is a link to the video

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?channel=eveningnews

I have a feeling the resistance in Iraq just needs to be patient. The don't have to win militarily.