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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:49 AM
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We hate Bush way more than they hated Clinton
What was their reason for hating Clinton so much?

Because he was liberal?
Because he supposedly slept around?
Because he took the election from Poppy?

They were relentless in their pursuit to destroy him for reasons that appear frivolous compared to lying about WMD's, the DSM, 2000 dead for nothing, Social Security, Supreme Court, Bolton, fundamentalist fanaticism in the WH.

Never thought I would lay awake nights thinking about how fucked up the world is and how in hell we can fire a guy whose job performance is so bad corporate America would have canned him already with a Do Not Rehire on his record.

I'm tired of taking sleeping medication to stop his face from floating in front of my weary eyes at night.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:51 AM
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1. Clinton vs Bush
Clinton had consensual sex with America's young adults
Bush is killing America's young adults

I death is a bit worse
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:52 AM
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4. Not if you're a Christian Crusader!
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 09:55 AM by BlueEyedSon
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:57 AM
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13. I agree...
... the religious right hate (not past tense, they'll hate him to the grave) Clinton far more than we hate Bush.
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:59 AM
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19. True
It's not that I hate Bush.... I hate his policies and then his petty attitude towards everyone except the Neo con elites. So you are right I think most of us here at DU hate his policies more than we do the man himself.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:06 AM
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26. No, I pretty much hate him too...
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:08 AM
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36. I flat out hate Bush.
I loathe him. I detest him. I abhor him.

I hate him. He is my enemy, not my president.
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:05 AM
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24. I'd rather have a President that screwed his intern than a
President that screwed the world...
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SCDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:09 AM
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27. yep
me too...
Lives that can't be brought back... families that can't be put back together.... babies that can no longer feel their father's warmth.... spouses who must now support the hopes and dreams of their children on their own income (sorry Santorum but mom might have to go back to work because dad died in Bush's ill concieved, ill planned ill supported war).... I think they are a bit more important and devestating than the clenis

sorry for the rant!
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formerrepuke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:52 AM
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2. Conservatives always get more worked up over sex than over violence
...hence: Bl*w-J*bs are worse than war.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:52 AM
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3. Bush is eminently more hate-able
he is stupid, ignorant, arrogant, callous, criminal, elitist, hypocritical, dishonest... did I mention stupid?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:54 AM
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6. I've never met so many people who told me the sight of him
makes them retch. It's a deep-seeded hatred for this man AND his minions.
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aintitfunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:53 AM
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5. I don't think so
Their hatred of Clinton is grounded in insanity, as is their unconditional love of GWB. Our dislike of GWB goes directly to policy, and how he is destroying our great nation (and others). We really would not care (barring the hypocrisy) if he was having consensual sex (of any kind) with another person.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:54 AM
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7. I don't think that's true...
They hated Clinton just as much, if not more. Have you forgotten the 1990s so quickly?

In any case, you're problem with the sleeping meds is that you're not using potent enough medication. Have you considered quaaludes? Barbs? A double-dose of valium, perhaps? Better living through modern chemicals, you know. :evilgrin:
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:58 AM
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14. I ate ludes for cereal in the 70's.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:59 AM
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18. Ah...
What happened? Got old, did you?

:hide:

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:40 AM
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34. Got sober.
sigh
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orion9941 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:59 AM
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16. To alcohol!!!
I've found that two very big glasses of Irish Whiskey (Bushmills) tends to do the job.
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SteppingRazor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:03 AM
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23. Combine the two!
And then you'll REALLY sleep good. Of course, there's also the possibility you won't wake up, but hey, buy the ticket, take the ride.

As far as Irish whiskey goes, Bushmill's is good, but unless it's the 21-year-old Bushmill's, I'll take Tullamore Dew over it every time!
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:39 AM
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33. Nyquil in a pinch. The entire bottle.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:56 AM
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8. "hated" - you mean they stopped hating Clinton?!
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:56 AM
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9. They will never see the differences, let alone understand them,
not capable of doing so.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:56 AM
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10. and a lot more people hate idiot boy
MILLIONS more around the world! The most Hated Man on Earth you could say!
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:56 AM
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11. yes, but we're less vicious about it.
when republicans hate, they hate to the very core of their being, and start stealing from the core of the being of those around them, and then scrounge walmarts and nascar events to collect more hatred, and then sell their souls to the devil in order to increase their hatred capacity until it rises like gorge from their throats and spews out in a river of bile large enough to create a hate-tsunami that engulfs civilization in a plume of vitriol before it drowns in massive tidal wave of hubris.

When we hate, its because the guys deserves it....and we protest or write letters or whatever. All good things, but its like if I stepped into the ring with a heavyweight champion and I am overweight, out of shape and never boxed a day in my life.

They are much, much better at hatred, its their reason for living. Take their hatred away and they have nothing. FOR THAT REASON, negotiating with them or compromising with them is a fool's errand. They hate us enought to suggest liberals should be put in concentration camps. They hate us enough to make up horrible untrue things about us and send them out as mimeographed talking points.

We cannot counter the professional level of vitriol, if we fight them using their own weapons.

IMHO>
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:00 AM
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20. Paragraph one: beautiful.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:29 AM
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30. thanks, it just flowed out of me.
thanks for the opportunity to vent.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:38 AM
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32. Vent more. It's satisfying to read.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:56 AM
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12. I disagree.
They hate Clinton WAY more than we hate Bush.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:58 AM
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15. And that is why they all get that little Smirk
when you berate **

They are thinking, "Ooh, now you know what it feels like" except they are wrong. Dead wrong.

Like 100,000+ Iraqis dead. And 1800+ of our troops. All that death for oil. And they LET the WTC be vaporized. And Osama is still out there.

And they don't want US to have any say. But when Clinton was in office, no one muzzled those sleezy Republican hatemongers.

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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 09:59 AM
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17. Their hate comes from deep inside and gets projected on things.
Clinton bore the brunt for not only the craziness that makes them conservatives, but also thier frustration at their own failure.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:01 AM
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21. "They" hated Clinton the man ...
...it was and is a rabid personal hatred.

I DESPISE what Chimpy and the evil cabal have done to my country (and my world). Though I am not at all charmed by * , I am indifferent to him when his policies and actions do not effect my country, my loved ones, my "fellow" human beings, the environmental integrity of my planet.

(I use the "my" not to indicate possession of but to indicate responsibility for ... as in my planet ...)
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JRob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:02 AM
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22. it's because they were told to hate Clinton and we individually grew to
hate Bush based on our knowledge and understanding of his actions and bullshit.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:05 AM
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25. I think I hate the "awake trance" his fear mongoring put on his followers
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:16 AM
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28. Disagree
Most of us will just forget Bush when he's gone from power (as he deserves to be). In any case we won't spend the following ten years blaming him for everything, even though that would be a lot more realistic of us than it is for the right-wingers to blame Clinton for everything.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:26 AM
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29. They hated Clinton for what he is...
and we hate Bush for what he does.

Back during Nixon's time, we despised him partly because of Viet Nam and his conservative cabal, but we really hated him because we thought he defamed the office just by being there. It was largely personal, and we wanted him out, even though he gave us a voting rights act and the EPA. Nothing he could do, not even his universal health care plan, could redeem him. He just did not belong there.

The right feels the same way bout Clinton, although I fail to understand just why. They absolutely believe that he had no right to be in the White House and long before Monica, they felt he defiled it.

In both cases it was personal, in addition to the philosophicla divide. And the personal hatred existed long before they were lected.

With Shrub, it's becoming personal but it's still mainly the absolute incompetence in running the country.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:30 AM
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31. So, do you think it's a character flaw to take him so personal?
I guess on the surface, I am not politically savvy enough to despise his policies, although I do understand what he is doing for the most part. Maybe, subconciously, I totlly understand what he's doing and I'm making it personal.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 10:57 AM
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35. It's always a character flaw to make it personal...
at least that's the way I see it.

And, yes I admit I am guilty of that flaw, too. I see Shrub as a miserable excuse for a human being who has no business running anything, much less the country.

But, my personal feelings shouldn't influence me or anyone else. It is his policies that are the problem. He is a force for destruction here and pretty much everywhere else. Nothing he has done so far has had any positive effect except to help a few people get short-term financial gains.

I believe that each of us should each day leave this place a little better than when the day started, and the President has the power and the responsibility to leave the place a lot better.

He has not done so.

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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:24 AM
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37. Just wish he didn't take up so much space in my head.
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