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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:47 AM
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Hey - let's teach evolution in Church. Fair is fair. nt
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:49 AM
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1. Actually that does illustrate the problem nicely
Science and Religion are fundenmentally different, created to answer different types of questions.

Bryant
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Homer12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:05 PM
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5. I think science and religion try to answer the same questions

For instance why are we here? Why are their stars? What makes thunder, etc.....?

The difference comes in how the questions are answered.

Humans using Science tests hypothesis to find answers and hopefully truth.

Religion uses faith in deities as the basis to answer these questions.

Intelligent design is a cover for creationism that blurs the division between science and religion.

If you are looking for an overall theme it is Man(science) vs. God(religion)!

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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 01:15 PM
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10. I don't agree
And I think you have a somewhat narrow vision of religion if you thin one of it's key questions is what makes thunder or why are you stars.

The first of your questions is a justifiable religious question. I suppose it's also a science question.

Take this metaphor - a child asks his father why they are at the store.

Answer #1 - "Well, we got in a car which travelled along elms street to willow drive and down onto main street. We then got out and walked into the store, and now here we are."

Answer #2 - "Well we came here to get a hammer and some nails so I can fix something."

The first is an answer science can provide - it can explain how we got here in the sence of what probably happened to create the world, and lead to the existence of man. But can science answer the question, "Well what's the point to all this?" It can't, really, can it?

Religion and Philosphy are the tools to answer that question and others like it.

Bryant
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:09 AM
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11. See the movie Contact if you haven't already-powerfully shows parallels
"Dr. Arroway and I are bound by a different covenant, but our goal is the same. The pursuit of truth."
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:50 AM
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2. I like it! n/t
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:50 AM
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3. To paraphrase a bumper sticker
Don't preach in my school, and I won't think in your church.
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Siena Donating Member (201 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:18 PM
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8. Classic!
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 11:51 AM
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4. How about teaching the OTHER 47 creation myths in school???
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:09 PM
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6. I've always thought that missionaires sucked
but that sounds like fun.:evilgrin:
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donsu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:12 PM
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7. this letter over at buzzflash said the same thing


http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/05/08/mai05211.html

http://www.buzzflash.com/mailbag/05/08/mai05211.html

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Subject: Teaching Creationism

Dear BuzzFlash:

I have no problem with the schools teaching creationism (same thing as intelligent design), as long as Bush is willing to give taxpayer-funded grants to scientists to teach evolution in all the churches.

There. That'll shut them up.

All the best

RA in LA
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 12:23 PM
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9. Excellent (nt)
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mcctatas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 12:34 AM
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12. Hell, maybe it would help even more if we just taught basic biblical
scholarship in fundie churches. Insisting on the infallability of the bible discourages critical thinking (probably a good thing to fundies), encourages ethnocentrism and rabid nationalism, and (this one really pisses me off) silences the positive messages in the bible. I'd be happy if they fully understood their own view of "creation", then teach them the science!
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