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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:16 PM
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From Red (Rube) State.Org: Robert Novak stands up for himself
Edited on Fri Aug-05-05 03:31 PM by norml
Robert Novak stands up for himself
By: wmoriarty · Section: Diaries


In case anyone hasn't heard, Robert Novak has been suspended after swearing on and leaving the set during live TV (video here). Novak, for some reason, has apologized (when he should be commended) and CNN has behaved ridiculously, at least in my view.
Some thoughts:


Novak was accurately defending himself against a charge that he's a partisan hack, a claim that anybody not wearing the "all-conservatives-are-evil" blinders that Chairman Howie passes out at DNC meetings knows to be true.

I'd use rough language too if James Carville, of all people, was attacking me for being a hack.

Did CNN ban, temporarily or permanently, Jon Stewart from appearing on their programming after he used rough language on Crossfire? (By the way, when will Stewart quit congratulating himself for that?) If no action was taken, is it okay to speculate that perhaps the different standards CNN applied to Stewart and Novak have something to do with ideology?

After admitting that they covered up for Saddam Hussein, does CNN really expect me to keep a straight face when they publicly refer to anyone else's actions as "inexcusable and unacceptable"? Can they put a moratorium on moralizing, for, say, the same amount of time they spent going soft on the butcher of Baghdad?


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http://wmoriarty.redstate.org/story/2005/8/5/155813/5774
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dkamin Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:17 PM
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1. Morons
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:19 PM
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4. white is black
right is wrong
left is right
weak is strong
little is big
up is down

and,
right makes might.
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:18 PM
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2. what color is the sky in his world
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:47 AM
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17. probably DOO DOO BROWN!
At least that's what I figure, since as how far they have their heads up their asses.

Christine from YOU CAN'T DO THAT ON TELEVISION! God that show was the shit!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope they put that out on DVD!!!!!!!!

Lu
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joemurphy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:18 PM
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3. CNN covered up for Saddam? What's he talking about? n/t
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ironman202 Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:33 PM
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8. oh who knows...that's why it's so convenient to be conservative...
whatever idiotic blather comes out of their mouths may as well be written in stone and put on the courthouse wall. Who can make any sense out of what they say? This guy is the son of hope and fear explaining to ignorance the nature of the unknowable...
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:20 AM
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16. There were CNN reporters in Iraq who knew Saddam was torturing and killing
and they didn't report it because they would have been kicked out of the country. They wanted to keep their Bureau in Iraq. Here's the story.

COMMUNIQUE: 15 April 2003

CNN's Iraqi Cover-Up
CNN admits that knowledge of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.



In a shocking New York Times opinion piece, CNN's chief news executive Eason Jordan has admitted that for the past decade the network has systematically covered up stories of Iraqi atrocities. Reports of murder, torture, and planned assassinations were suppressed in order to maintain CNN's Baghdad bureau.

Read Jordan's op-ed at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/11/opinion/11JORD.html

Jordan has not always been so candid -- nor honest. Just six months ago on public radio, when challenged regarding the veracity of CNN's Baghdad reports, Jordan stated:

"CNN has demonstrated again and again that it has a spine; that it's prepared to be forthright... we work very hard to report forthrightly, to report fairly and to report accurately and if we ever determine we cannot do that, then we would not want to be there ."
http://wnyc.org/onthemedia/transcripts_102502_jordan.html

http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/CNNs_Iraqi_Cover-Up.asp
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AValdoux Donating Member (738 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:26 PM
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5. Since when...
...is cussing and running away defending yourself.

Carville is partisan and admits it.He has never pretends to be a journalist. You know what your getting when you sit down with him. Jon Stewart doesn't claim to be a journalist but he is more respected than Novack. When Jon Stewart used "rough language" he stood by them. Tucker Carlson is a dick.

Novack is a hack and partisan at that. Novack's problems stem from his lack of journalistic ethics. They are all his own doing.

Can these people argue a point without bringing up Sadaam or Clinton?


AValdoux
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:31 PM
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6. O-M-G!!!!!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


accurately defending himself against a charge that he's a partisan hack



:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


THAT is the funniest thing I've read in a LONG, LONG time!
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 02:34 AM
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14. Jay Rosen: Why Robert Novak Stormed Off the Set
Jay Rosen: Why Robert Novak Stormed Off the Set
1 hour, 16 minutes ago



Thursday afternoon Robert Novak stormed off the set of CNN's "Inside Politics" and got himself suspended. He also eluded questions about the Valerie Plame case that were going to be asked by a CNN colleague, anchor Ed Henry, who said he warned Novak before the show began that he would be raising the matter. (The Transcript. The video.)

For months, Novak has been under pressure to answer questions from fellow journalists. On July 7 (see Time for Robert Novak to Feel Some Chill) I wrote at the Huffington Post: "If you're Jonathan Klein, president of CNN/US, you take him off the air until he decides to go on the air and explain." Novak's friends should tell him to take some time off, I said.

It just seemed to me, as a viewer, that Novak was in an impossible position every time he went on the air to talk politics. If he met his duty to himself (by not speaking up while the Plame case was open) then he could not meet his duty to his peers and his profession.

This was to tell CNN viewers just what he knows about a newsworthy story, and answer a fair-minded interviewer's questions. Putting the man on the air in a situation so constrained was neither fair nor wise. It didn't make journalistic sense, or human sense. (And where was his agent -- rooting him on to disaster?)


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20050806/cm_huffpost/005233
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:13 AM
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15. Interesting. Ed Henry's mistake was
to WARN Novak what he was going to ask him. He should have blindsided him. IMCPO.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:32 PM
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7. He stood up for himself by swearing and walking out?
:shrug:

Sheesh! Those Freeptards have low standards of self-defense!
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:35 PM
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10. Maybe they meant to say that he stood up BY himself
as in without assistance.
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TerdlowSmedley Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:34 PM
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9. I think it's worth noting that Jon Stewart was a GUEST on
a CNN program, and not a CNN-employed host.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:36 PM
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11. It's one thing to be wrong and stupid.
It's entirely something different to be wrong and stupid and publish it on the net.
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MadJohnShaft Donating Member (267 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:37 PM
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12. Yes, Novak was 'at work' when he did that, while Stewart is a comedian
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-05-05 03:39 PM
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13. cnn sent me this email
Thank you for your email to us concerning Bob Novak.

Mr. Novak's behavior on CNN during Thursday's broadcast of Inside Politics was inexcusable and unacceptable. Mr. Novak has apologized to CNN, and CNN apologizes to its viewers for his language and actions. CNN has asked Mr. Novak to take some time off.



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Stirk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 10:50 AM
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18. Past headline: "Jefferey Dahmer boldly stands against vegans."
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