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zaj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:29 PM Original message |
Eminent Domain... |
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zaj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here's the article about Oakland, CA. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. A few things. |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:50 PM Original message |
Excellent post... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Sorry, but the Court fucked this one up. |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. No, it really didnt. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. "Public use" should have been written into the |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Well it wasnt. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Then explain to me like I'm a child |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. You are making it more complicated than it is. |
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dr.strangelove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 04:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Whether or not it actually serves the public is a decision for WHO |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. You have it a bit backwards. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Here is the opinion |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. The Consitution doesn't say "public good." |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Sorry, but that doesnt change anything I said. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. I don't consider an office building to be public use. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. It was a 90 acre redevelopment project |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I don't think it's better to take land from lots of people |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. aw geesh |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. So they're mostly getting the poor and middle income people to leave |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:43 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. I support the 25,000 |
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Egalitariat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. The Constitution does not say "public GOOD", it says "public USE" |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. You are wrong on two counts. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. An office building and new private homes isn't "public use." |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You seem to be missing the point on purpose. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:33 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. 5 justices agree with your interpretation of the Consitution, and |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Thomas, Scalia, and Rhenquist are the legal experts you want backing you? |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 07:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. It was Sandra Day O'connor's dissent I liked... |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 07:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. So only 1 justice agreed with you. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 07:12 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. She thought it was unconstitutional to take the land |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 07:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. She was wrong. EOM |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't know the legal justification |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Its in the constitution, blame the framers. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 04:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. It should be the public who owns any property taken |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. I agree in principal, but that isnt the law. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. Not that simple |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Make the house owners a big enough offer that they want to sell (nt) |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Maybe they did |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. They don't have the right to force people off their poperty and |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Under the constitution they do have that right. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:03 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Did you read the decision? |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:26 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I read some of Justice Sandra Day O'Conner's dissent. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
37. I would write "liberals" instead of liberals, |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
4. Two ways to handle it |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. The abuse of eminent domain |
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TeeYiYi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
29. I think you nailed it . . . |
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K-W (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Indeed. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 06:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. In addition |
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