Novak and Zappa

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Zappa on Crossfire (1986)
In 1986, Frank Zappa appeared on Crossfire to discuss rock lyrics and censorship.
(21 min 17 sec)

http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2658805

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1. Notice

How shows, back then, were not as chopped up and fakey commercial bullshit.

We are moving towards a fascist theocracy.
Zappa was a profit.

[hootinholler]

16. "Zappa was a profit."

He's laughing his ass off at that.

-Hoot

[Kurovski]

30. More of a prophet, really.

But I'd never say that to his face.

I worked with a guy who interviewed Zappa in Chicago, as I recall he was appearing at Park West.

Zappa conducted the interview while sitting on the toilet.

[benito]

2. we did this last night

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x3797501

but still worth a 2nd look

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4. I didn't know. n/t

[benito]

9. I think it's awesome

that the link keeps coming up every so often. New people show up every day and everyone should watch that clip at least once.

Zappa's articulation and sense of humor next to that moran is great.

[maxsolomon]

3. JESUS! that hairpiece!

whats on nofacts hand?

[Reverend_Smitty]

5. you gotta check out his second Crossfire appearance as well

Novak wasn't on it but he was debating some toadie from the PMRC who claimed that rock and roll lyrics were responsible for the rise of AIDS in the 80's...yeah thats right AIDS!
http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2664570

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6. thanks

:toast:

[Greeby]

7. Yanno whats amazing about this show?

For once, the Douchebag of Liberty is not the most insane person in the room.

[maxsolomon]

8. mr. hairpiece was a giant douche

zappa was 100% correct, and would have been the greatest president america ever had. i like that he considered himself a conservative!

damn cancer.

[bridgit]

10. sweet seeing zappa again, thanks...

:hi:

[Literate Tar Heel]

11. just watched the clip now

that's about the most entertaining 20 minutes of television I've watched in years and probably the most entertaining 20 minutes of television I'll see until the opening 20 minutes of Karl Rove's criminal trial

what struck me was that both Lofton and Novak appeared to be reading from notes they brought in and Zappa had nothing and was still far better informed than they were ... they looked so pathetic that I almost felt sorry for them at times ... almost

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Yep

When you have your own mind and don't need talking points you don't need notes. I wonder if they had talking points back then.

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[moodforaday]

13. Kick kick kick!!

I just fell off my chair, right where Zappa says "I love it when you froth like that!"

I miss Frank sorely.

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14. "Let's froth"

I am a Frank Zappa since the early 1970's.
R.I.P.

[U4ikLefty]

15. Thanks...that was some good stuff!!!

Kinda brought me back to the 80's for a minute. Now I remember why I'm glad they're gone!!!

[kitkat65]

17. Is this the same John Lofton?

http://www.visionforumministries.org/sections/hotcon/ht/ballotbox/votingethics/2004-10-26_lofton.asp

If it is, it he's no longer Republican thanks to the war

[moodforaday]

21. The same

Judging by the pic.

But boy, his arguments against the Iraq war are no less wacked than his comments on Crossfire twenty years ago:

But, can a Bible-believing Christian who also believes in our Constitution approve of our war against Iraq? I think not. This war is un-Biblical because it is not truly a war of self-defense. It also seeks to spread “democracy,” which is un-Biblical. It is un-Biblical in that it allies us with unbelieving, non-Christian nations. And it is un-Constitutional because President Bush did not seek a declaration of war, nor did Congress give him one, as the Constitution requires.

[kitkat65]

33. Wow, I commend you for actually reading it - I couldn't summon the

patience and just scrolled down to see his resume to see if it might be him. The only thing that peaked my interest was the fact that he couldn't stomach the Republicans anymore.

As for the Crossfire episode, I just can't get over his obsession with songs "advocating incest." Issues, anyone?

[FreedomAngel82]

18. I've seen that

and Zappa does really well.

[Swamp Rat]

20. Novak is a "first amendment man" ... "Hey everybody! ... Valerie Plame!!!"

Thanks for the link. I hadn't seen the whole video for many years. :yourock:

[moodforaday]

22. Swamp Rat... you rule!

And you are awesome. I can't get enough of your creations. Are they all archived somewhere?

[Swamp Rat]

24. Here's some links set up by other, angelic DUers:

O8) :D

I just uploaded a lot of my newest pics to this website a few hours ago, but bpilgrim has to approve them first.
http://news.globalfreepress.com/gallery/index.php?cat=10002

dxstone's website:
http://presidentevilonline.com/swamprat1.html

DisressedAmerican's website:
http://www.seedsofdoubt.com/distressedamerican/swamprat.htm

[lonestarnot]

23. swampy the green becomes him...

[Swamp Rat]

25. I am hunting for good pics of Novakula.

Yahoo! and Google have erased a lot of the good ones, and the ones that remain are too small to work with. I did find some yesterday, so I plan on doing another Novak Lizard ASAP.

Btw, BartCop.com used this pic in this weekend's edition: :D

[lonestarnot]

26. Here's one from a protest sign we did....LOL

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[Swamp Rat]

27. HAHA! I was just looking at it in the Rove thread!

Wonderful!!! :yourock:

The name "Benedict Rove" was on the tip of my tongue as I clicked here. :D

[lonestarnot]

28. Can you make a green benedict? I'll use it at our next protest and

post it just for you!

[lonestarnot]

29. Swampy does rule!

:yourock:

[Kurovski]

31. Agreed.

I think that it's entirely possible that Zappa himself would enjoy Swamp Rat's works.

[tomg]

32. I can't believe how prescient Zappa

was when he said that the greatest threat to America was Reagan leading up toward a fascist theocracy. I thought everyone else's head was going to explode when he said that. God, Zappa was awesome.