I didn't know this until tonight.....

[WCGreen]

It seems the people who are fighting off an invasion force are no longer freedom fighters but are now terrorists in their own land....

Cause the war has been officially over since May of 2003.....

I also found out tonight that these "terrorists" are linked backward to 9/11 so that Iraq is connected to 9/11....

Therefor, the president feels the war in Iraq is justified (shades of Yogi Berra)....

I also learned that the terrorists are stooping to pay their bomb makers simply because they don't have jobs. Stooping to pay for an army, how horrible is that....

And recruiting those soldiers from a disenfranchised lower class....

Who would do such a thing.....

How did I learn all of this....

Took about fifteen minutes of my precious time on this planet and watched some cable news....

[anarchy1999]

1. Interesting post. I like it.

"Who would do such a thing"?

That question is capable of boggling minds and the masses do not like to have their minds get boggled.

[WCGreen]

2. Just some musings at 5:05 AM

But seriously, what are people thinking

[anarchy1999]

3. Good damned question. I don't know. I'm amazed , but I do tend

to speak out daily in some manner, it's the only way to stay semi-sane.

[democrank]

4. Funny how that works.

Cable news reporting on this war and George Bush`s rationale for it couldn`t be any more twisted.

I ask this of every single pro-war person I come into contact with.... If a foreign government invaded America, killed and maimed our citizens, bombed our cities, took down our statues, changed our currency, took over our oilfields, set curfews and roadblocks, raided our homes, set up a torture center, made decisions about who would get work and who wouldn`t, witheld electricity and water, and set up a puppet government, would we be "terrorists" if we fought back?

Try asking that question and watch the blank stares you get.

[anarchy1999]

5. Beautiful post! I asked Dahr Jamail the same thing.

This is the analogy we need to be using all the time, every day 24/7.

When you put it in this way to the kool-aid drinkers they either get it or they have a short circuit moment and then go back to shopping and Disneyland.

[WCGreen]

6. Yes, saying that we, the americans, are altruistic

lierators is getting a bit stale...

Still, the average Jane and Joe don't wish to have their impressions shattered so they will clutch at what ever they can....

Except, of course, when your boy or girl does come home in a box.....

[democrank]

9. "Every day, 24/7" is exactly right.

Just bombard Bushies with rational thought and watch them try to choke it down.

After all these months of listening to the Crawford Rambo, national security experts, retired generals, the pro-war DLC, the rabid RNC, Rove`s taking points, White House briefings and the hapless corporate media, I`m ready for some fresh ideas. Democrats don`t need to hire a gazillion consultants, they just need to lay it out in simple terms....

What would you do if we were invaded?

[Tactical Progressive]

10. Yes, if we fought back we probably would be called terrorists

by Republicans. I'd venture that many of them would become collaborators with the enemy, by doing what they always do: looking out for themselves no matter the cost to everyone else.

[MADem]

22. Hell, everyone who was here in 1776 on the Blue Team

...was a terrorist, then.

At least according to a King named George....

[WCGreen]

23. That's the rub..... Orwellian isn't it

[Talismom]

17. This type of question should be a constant drumbeat

throughout this country! Keep it going! Great post!

[KitchenWitch]

7. Nominated

One must always remember that "One person's terrorist is another person's freedom fighter".

I am so against the war in Iraq, and I see it as us being terrorists over there.

[Wetzelbill]

12. Commie!

What are you French? You're either with us or against us KW, no other way. Now, I have to go drive my SUV and eat some apple pie. Murica, Fuck Yeah!!!!!!! :evilgrin:

[KitchenWitch]

13. Make sure the next tattoo you get is the W '04 logo!

Oh, and consider joining PNAC...I hear they are looking for brainless idiots to round out their ranks :evilgrin:

[Wetzelbill]

14. lol

I already have a tattoo of Dick Cheney breaking a frog's neck with his bare hands. Is that not good enough? :)

[KitchenWitch]

16. No, not enough

Oh, and you must sign the loyalty pledge in your own blood. And once you have completely sold your soul, you know you can never have it back.

:grr:

[blogslut]

19. Freedom Fighter

Aack! Memories of Iran/Contra!

It's amazing what one can do with words. Take that whole "Freedom Fighter" crap. The Contras were Freedom Fighters alright. They fought freedom every chance they could.

The term Insurgent is used like that. Can't call them rebels. That would be bad for Bushco business.

[WCGreen]

20. Doesn't Insurgent mean they have been inserted...

So if that is the true meaning, then we in fact are the insurgents....

[malaise]

8. Well said

They also make you wonder which class makes up the majority of the poor US men and women who are dying in Iraq and elsewhere.

[Wetzelbill]

11. I'll watch or read some msm news and inevitably

something will come up that will have me questioning one of my beliefs, so I'll go look a few things up and I'm like:" WTF, is that guy talking about?" I am also quite notorious for arguing with the tv screen, for example, say David Brooks is on some show the Newshour or Matthews Sunday show, if he says something absurd I will just blurt out:" Oh c'mon David! That's so trite." You should see me go off when say Rummy or Condi are on a show. They bullshit so much I'm screaming around by the end of a segment, lol.

Last fall, I heard John McCain say on Face The Nation that we didn't know yet whether or not Saddam had anything to do with 9-11. Bob Schieffer sat there like a bump on a log. I nearly hit the roof! And, these network shows are usually much better than the cable stuff. I couldn't even watch cable news. I'd probably end up in a grave by the end of the year.

[izzie]

15. What would people say to this?

Iraq takes over York County Maine and the locals starting trying to kill them to get them out. Are the locals right or wrong? You must recall they are only trying to give us their form of govt.and of course they know they are right.

[jbnow]

21. Though honestly

it would get a little irritating if locals were killing other New Yorkers to to protest Iraq being there.

It is sad but sensible when our soldiers are killed there. It is sad and seems senseless when a lot of civilians are killed.I know sometimes it is those waiting to be recruits for the US, so they might feel justified, but it isn't limited to that.

Really that's the part I don't understand. Is it to scare civilians into not cooperating with America? Do you kill kids getting candy from soldiers to keep kids from getting candy from soldiers? Do you kill civilians in their car to teach them you can't be safe in the car while America is there?

I know we kill civilians and kids too, not intentionally perhaps, but carelessly and uncaringly. But why do those that oppose us do it? Why don't they just go after our soldiers?

That is a real and not rhetorical question.

[Paradise]

18. Who doesn't love * ? n/t