Could someone address Air America Radio's scandel, loss of advertisers?

[ecoalex]

I wrote AAR, but no reply.Supposedly $800,000 in Fed. grant $$ found it's way into the AAR coffers, and an investigation is underway by the State of NY. Also advertisers are dropping off, a good thing, too many ads.Any information would be appreciated, the righties are licking their chops with glee. Well we did when oxycontin rush got his.Is AAR on the way out? It shone so brightly, like Dean, only to fall metorically as well? I hope not.

[Archae]

1. It's a non-scandal.

The facts, from a surprising source:

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200508\SPE20050805a.html

[AllyCat]

2. I cannot believe there is a FALL in advertisers!

They have a commercial break about every 2 minutes! I'm having a hard time believing that...but then $800K would only be fair since the other media outlets get a free ride on everything. Maybe AAR got the shot in the arm just for fairness' sake.

[Comandante_Subzero]

5. Rebel Radio

Why don't we have a lot of micro-radio stations - including underground - across the country? Where is Ted Turner? Supposedly he's a liberal. No attempts happening to fund a really prog national media. There actually used to be a socialist press in the US! Another victim of liberal "progress". Let's get real - the progs lost, the neofascists won. We need to face that, analyze why we lost, & start again.

[fasttense]

18. It's already been analyzed. Just ask TIA.

The repukes rigged the election and continue to do so and pretend otherwise. Simple.

[Touchdown]

38. Turner hired Bob Novak 25 years ago for CNN

He has always had, at least on the shout shows, firebrand conservatives and marshmallowy liberals. Pat Buchanan and Geraldine Ferraro? Michael Kinsley did have a backbone, but he didn't stay with CNN for 25 years like Novak did. Of all the people who's come and gone, only Novak has been there since the beginning.

Who knows if he's really a liberal. He was certainly the catalyst for what we're dealing with now, media ownership concentration.

[The_Casual_Observer]

3. AAR must be scaring the shit out of the rw, they can't

stand it. Every day there is some really vile nasty report from one of these crappy fake ultra right wing shit holes.

[bettyellen]

4. Link to the scandel?

supposedly?
c'mon now, even at 350 posts you ought to know better than to post this.

[libnnc]

8. what she said...

You took the words right outta my fingers.

I'm slow to buy any "scandel" or even scandal stuff about AAR.

[wryter2000]

6. What's the source for the story?

I saw a reference to that, and it was bogus. They're scared spitless because AAR keeps growing by leaps and bounds.

[AllyCat]

7. The link is posted at #1 I think...it's CNS, a right-wing news source

Check out the poll for confirmation of their political leanings.

[hack89]

9. Isn't the NY state attorney general now investigating?

what would get him involved?

[Eric J in MN]

14. Update: that is what the NY Post claims.

The NY Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who also owns Fox News.

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/26675.htm

[bettyellen]

17. they're investigationg the Boys and Girls club that made the loan, not AAR

[hack89]

27. Thanks.. how closely linked to AAR...

is the fund raiser they are investigating?

[NYCGirl]

29. Not closely at all, according to this:

http://www.airamericaradio.com/press/gloriawise

As reported in the Wall Street Journal and the HBO Documentary, Left of the Dial‚ the company that the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club officials gave money to, Progress Media, has been defunct since May 2004. That company was run at the time by Evan Cohen who has not had any involvement in Air America Radio since May 2004.

[hack89]

33. Good ... thanks n/t

[bettyellen]

35. exactly, it was never even AAR in the first place, but the OP ignored that

was that a bs post and run?

[wryter2000]

43. Post and run

Don't be too quick to call post and run. :) I've done that a few times out of ignorance. Sometimes an honest question can look like a post and run.

[wryter2000]

39. There ought to be a source for scorn in there

If we have to address the issue at all, we ought to be able to laugh about the corrupt Boys and Girls Clubs. Boogah-boogah-boogah

[havocmom]

13. While Rush and o'Reilly's #s keep falling off

Tucker is a has been already and Novak finally had the meltdown we all knew was coming, they are gonna do the projection thing, yet again and insist it is liberal radio which is in trouble.

Just projection or wishful thinking on their part. They may own the media, but they are losing the war to spin the story anyway.

Send em some Depends cus they are crapping their drawers!

[Eric J in MN]

10. The first CEO of AAR, Evan Cohen, was a crook, and they

quickly got rid of him.

[senseandsensibility]

11. On DU we use sources when making

explosive charges. I assume you have a source. What's your reason for not sharing it?

[meppie-meppie not]

40. sounded like a freeper post to me. Half truths and innuendo thinly veiled

in "aw shucks, sure hope it's not true, I like AAR"...the post that started this thread was transparent freeper BS as always, IMHO! :puke:

[in_cog_ni_to]

12. AAR isn't going anywhere.

That's just wishful thinking by the RW wacko nut jobs who KNOW AAR is beating their asses in the ratings. RW radio=LOSERS. Ha!

And they said noone would listen to Left radio. LOL! :rofl: They're eating those words.

[NewJeffCT]

15. If you compare, AARs advertisers are much bigger now than 18 months ago

Now, I hear ads for Geico, select-comfort mattresses, ExxonMobil, and other big companies/corporations. In the beginning, it was almost always PSAs (public service announcements)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

16. I don't think we'll be seeing any link from the OP anytime soon.

[Eric J in MN]

20. If you want a link, go here

http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/26675.htm

Note that the NY Post is a rightwing paper.

Also, that Air America quickly got rid of Evan Cohen because he's a crook.

Evan Cohen doesn't work at Air America now.

[oscar111]

22. GROWTH:66 stations: Dallas, Atlanta, N. Orleans, Memphis,Albr'que,Austin,

Carolinas {forget the town}, San Diego, colorado. Those are RW areas, where AAR is most needed.

and also now in San Antonio, home base of Clear Channel, aka Hate Radio, which gave original birth to Mr. Limbaugh as a money looser for several years.

============
and note:
New Model

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union LOCAL buys station, puts AAR ON.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%

Tell all of that new way to get AAR in new areas.

anchorage, KUDO, bought by IBEW local . electrical workrs.

[Judi Lynn]

19. If another impulse creeps into your consciousness

to claim Democrats' projects are slipshod or even illegal just smack it! Smack it good.

[1932]

36. Heh heh heh heh.

[Skip Intro]

21. Oh come on. Here's the story:

snip:

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewSpecialReports.asp?Page=\SpecialReports\archive\200508\SPE20050805a.html
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"The company that the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club officials gave money to, Progress Media, has been defunct since May 2004," the Air America statement explained. "The current owners of Air America Radio have no obligation to Progress Media's business activities."

The original investors in Air America, except for Cohen, created a new corporation, Piquant, LLC. That company then acquired the network from the original owner. Air America's statement continues to explain that, for fear of its reputation being harmed, the network will repay the money.

"We are very disturbed that Air America Radio's good name could be associated with a reduction in services for young people," the statement adds, "which is why we agreed months ago to fully compensate the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club as a result of this transaction."

Martta Rose, spokeswoman for the GWBGC, told Cybercast News Service that the radio network has always agreed that it would reimburse the charity, but that the terms had only recently been "hammered out."
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the rest of the article goes on to talk about an investigation into Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club, not AAR.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

25. Plus, CNS is a RW hack source.

[Bouncy Ball]

50. CNS "news" huh?

:rofl:

Excuse me while I laugh myself silly.

[Skip Intro]

51. um, that was kinda my point there, BB

that was the point of my post, that even the bs rw story doesn't justify the "AAR in scandal" bullshit.

In context of what the op was asserting, post #1 providing the link

sorry, thought it was obvious

[fasttense]

23. That article about the AAR scandal has already been debunked weeks ago.

But Fox news continues to plummet in the ratings. Maybe you should post those facts.

[NYCGirl]

24. Perhaps if you had done a bit more research, you would have seen this on

Air America's site:

http://www.airamericaradio.com/press/gloriawise

Statement:
If the allegations of mismanagement and corruption at Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club are true, it is absolutely disgraceful.

As reported in the Wall Street Journal and the HBO Documentary, Left of the Dial‚ the company that the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club officials gave money to, Progress Media, has been defunct since May 2004. That company was run at the time by Evan Cohen who has not had any involvement in Air America Radio since May 2004.

The current owners of Air America Radio have no obligation to Progress Media's business activities. We are very disturbed that Air America Radio's good name could be associated with a reduction in services for young people, which is why we agreed months ago to fully compensate the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club as a result of this transaction.

We at Air America Radio strongly believe in the mission of Boys and Girls Clubs to provide a safe and nurturing place for young people to learn and grow. As a result, we recently allowed the same club, Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club, to use our name in a fundraising effort for a summer camp for children in their community.

The funding for Camp Air America was raised and collected entirely by the Gloria Wise Boys & Girls Club, and Air America promoted the camp on air and urged support for it. A link on our web site sent those interested in contributing to the camp to the Gloria Wise web site. Regrettably, the camp did not survive the closure of the Gloria Wise organization. We have offered any individuals who contributed to the camp as a result of Air America's promotion the option of a refund paid for by Air America Radio and the Club offered the alternative option of having their donation redirected to Kip's Bay Boys and Girls Club.

[KelleyKramer]

26. 66 stations and growing like crazy

They have almost tripled just since the election. AAR is now in 8 of the top ten markets.

The ratings are kicking ass too, and at the same time Rush and the other wingnuts are seeing ratings drop like a brick.

Whenever the right starts bad-mouthing you, its a sure sign you are doing very well... and when they lie and make up fake scandals.. it means you are kicking their ass.

The right is scared shitless of AAR.

This is going to be fun, pass the popcorn!

[oscar111]

30. Bush, 41 %: AAR, 66 stations. AAR up, Bush down. hmmmmmm

as AAR grows,

bush sinks.

Connection? I think so.


PS used bush 's overall approval , not the more minor stats , like "trust" or "approve of war management". I follow Overall, as i think it is more meaningful. Some disagree.

[NYCGirl]

28. More on the "scandel" and its sources:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/30/124315/828

[in_cog_ni_to]

31. HEY!! Where'd the OP go???

Just askin'. :eyes:

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

32. They can see that their work here is clearly done, LOL

[Bouncy Ball]

49. I have to hand it to DUers, though, no one seems to have

taken the bait.

Yay, DU!

[RebelOne]

34. Asshole Sean Insannity said that AAR

took the food from the mouths of babies. What an idiot!!!

[ecoalex]

37. Thanks for the AAR statement

It clears it up for me, too bad for the repugs, whose drooling must of distorted their copy of the facts.AAR could of sent me the statement, but then I looked, but didn't see, typical for me.

[BiggJawn]

41. No advertisers a"GOOD thing"??

" Also advertisers are dropping off, a good thing, too many ads."

Uh, Alex.....

HOW do you propose to PAY for AAR if they don't sell ads?

<snif-snif>

[ecoalex]

45. My Point too many ads.

The AM format is not good for in depth discusions, interviews. many many times, Franken cuts off mid word many notables, even Clinton, all for commercial breaks. It's disgusting to me.Capitolistic yes, but disrespectful, Um...we must stop here...thanks for the 2 minute interview, but we must play the commercials.

The ads many are local, NYC ads not even National.I don't really care Dr Fishbeck does liposuction in Manhatten; convient location come see me for fat removal. Yes, Dr. I live in Mt Ranch Ca., I'll be right over...C'mon.

It denegrates the interviewer, interviewee, and the public, but the sponsor is happy, ALL THAT MATTERS.

capitolism is the holy grail, so we capitulate to it? NO

There must be a better way, then how it is done now, my point. Thank You

[BiggJawn]

46. There is a "Better way"...

It's called "Program Underwriters".
Why, for probably a little under $50,000, you could underwrite a whole HOUR of AAR and not have to hear about Dr. Fishbeck.

"This hour's programming on Air America Radio is made possible by a GENEROUS grant from ecoalex."

I get the impression Podcasting has spoiled you severely.

OK, nothing wrong with that. It IS the wave of the future. At least until Madison Avenue figures out how to strike gold wiith it.
"Hey, dudes, today's 'Anarchy NOW!' is brought to you by Nike, but I'm not selling out or anything, I just...Uh, I got bills to pay, y'know?"


Me personally? I mentally tune out the commercials since there's no way I'm driving 200 miles to eat in Cincinatti.

[MODemocrat]

42. Seems to me that you have already "addressed the scandal"

I haven't read anything about this; only that AAR's ratings are rising.
:boring: :boring: :boring: :boring: :boring:

[linazelle]

44. Notice the "author" of this thread is nowhere to be found.

:eyes:

[Bouncy Ball]

48. He weighed in once just a few posts above this.

Nice try, anyway. No one fell for this "scandel." LOL. Scandel. Spellcheck is our friend.

[julialnyc]

47. here are the questions Repuke callers are supposed to ask

when they have their "sneak attack"
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003179.htm