Concerning the Economy: Plenty of Jobs Like Mine

[norml]

$6.50 per hour plus tips, no paid vacation days, no paid sick days, no health insurance, no possibility of a raise, and now no days off working just short of 40 hours per week since another one of the drivers quit.

With the price of gas what it is, and people actually tipping less, pizza delivery driving has lots of openings.

Delivery driving can be fun, but lately I see a lot of people my age and older working such jobs out of need, along with their other jobs.

In fact they all work so many hours and are so worn out, they are almost never willing to work hours for anyone else.

Do you see much of this or is it totally foreign to your experience?

I'm going to go swimming now before I go to work.

See you later!

[Deja Q]

1. What is your age?

Pizza delivery is an older-teenage job.

I can't believe our society would have capable adults doing that sort of job.

[Tux]

2. Depends on the area

Here in KY, employers mostly hire KY college grads. Deity forbid you attend a college out of KY.

Some areas lack real employers and now days, people need to get what they can. Ever hear of layoffs and offshoring that has been going on?

[Deja Q]

4. Counter-question:

Do you copy and paste the identical message in multiple forums? :evilgrin:


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[Tux]

5. No

Why do you ask?

[JanMichael]

6. You're not serious are you? We consistantly get over 30/yr delivery guys

Admitedly there are several college students doing it too but had I imagined that someone would challenge this idea I would have started a Access database to record the big percentage of older pizza delivery guys.

And this is a town with tons of students but I guess with wealthier parents they don't all have to lower themselves to delivering pizza. That would be a burden on their beautiful minds...

[Nikia]

7. About half of the delivery people that come to my door

Are definitely older adults. Many of the others might be in their twenties.
Most of the people working at my local Walmart are adults. They make $7.00/hour there. Pizza delivery with tips might pay more.
Why do you think that teenagers have a hard time getting summer jobs now. Adults are doing the jobs that teenagers used to do.

[w8liftinglady]

8. I just got back from Vegas

I was literally astounded by the number of Over-60 age people doing service jobs(bus driver,waitress,ticket takers,cashiers).I don't know what they pay in Vegas,but these guys were desperate for tips.

[Daphne08]

10. Same here. We saw an old man who had to be 75 years old

waiting tables in a restaurant at Stateline in Primm on border between CA and NV... on the way home from Vegas (I have relatives there) a few weeks ago.

He HAD to be that old! We couldn't believe someone that old working ... who looked like he had probably worked all his life and should be in a rocking chair at home enjoying retirement.

We gave him a nice tip, too, because we felt so sorry for him. :(

[Tux]

9. Fantasy

OK. Let me assume your a liberal baby boomer. A group that helped promote (Clinton) and pass NAFTA/CAFTA who then turns around and wonders why others can't get good paying jobs with offshoring and layoffs occuring while you get a nice, comfy job and tax cuts. Thanks for the concern.

And my liberal friends wonder why I only support the Green party now.

[agincourt]

13. I was 36 when I did it part-time.

I worked with people from "just got license age" to middle 40s. The high point of the job is when someone asks if you are a college student. Good money in a Clinton economy because you get good tips. In a Bush economy with crappy tips and high gas prices, well that's another story.

[norml]

14. I just turned 48: Pfizer plant plans restructuring, layoff of 300

Pfizer plant plans restructuring, layoff of 300
By SCOTT BAUER / The Associated Press

A restructuring of the Pfizer plant operations in Lincoln will result in the loss of 300 jobs, the pharmaceutical maker announced Thursday.



The Lincoln plant, which employs about 800, will focus on the production of animal health vaccines and will be transferring its pharmaceutical production and packaging operations to other plants over the next few years, Pfizer said in a release.

Nearly half of the job losses will happen in the next four months, said Rick Saffee, director of Lincoln's operations at Pfizer. Lincoln's biological clinical operation will be consolidated with a facility in St. Louis, Saffee said.

The remaining job losses will occur over the next two to three years as the manufacture of traditional pharmaceutical products for the animal health industry are transferred to other Pfizer locations, including Kalamazoo, Mich., Saffee said.


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http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2005/08/04/local/doc42f246a574adb067331158.txt

[bobbieinok]

16. in Tulsa Pizza Hut delivery at my door are all over 35, most in 50-60

[JDPriestly]

3. I see a lot of people who are out of work

or working as "independent contractors" meaning they catch what work they can as they can. "Independent contractors," in my experience work for far less than they would earn as employees because they get no benefits and feel obliged to perform to a standard that is exceptionally high in order to compete with other "independent contractors" job by job. It's horrible. Good luck with the pizza delivery.

[Democrats_win]

11. Maybe its a second job (or third) for the adult drivers.

This low-wage job would be ok as supplemental income. I've done that. Problem is, now most people can't find that main job.

Another situation is employers, such as Wal-Mart, won't schedule you to work over 25 hours/week so they don't have to pay benefits. In that case, adults must get another part-time job.

[getmeouttahere]

12. This is only the beginning, folks!

then we'll hear the same old carping from conservatives "you have to better yourself" so you want to go to school again but they've slashed the pell grants and you don't have time because you're working 2-3 jobs, and even if you do manage to get your degree or another one for transition to another career, but who's creating the better paying jobs, Walmart????

[nookiemonster]

15. This is Bush-speak for a manufacturing job.

Shame.

Building Blue-Collar … Burgers?
NEW YORK, Feb. 20, 2004


Manufacturing jobs making things like airplane engines, cars and farm equipment are disappearing from the American economy.

Or are they? According to a White House report, new manufacturing jobs might be as close as your nearest drive-thru.

The annual Economic Report of the President has already stirred controversy by suggesting the loss of U.S. jobs overseas might be beneficial, and predicting that a whopping 2.6 million jobs will be created in the country this year.

As first reported by The New York Times, the fast food issue is taken up on page 73 of the lengthy report in a special box headlined "What is manufacturing?"

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[wrlwnd]

18. What is your education? n/t