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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:33 PM
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The Emasculation of the American Media
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 03:42 PM by asjr
Our so-called Free Press, for the last five years, has been bound and gagged. And they willingly acquiesced to it. They tittered and giggled when Tony Blair of the U.K. was called Bush's Poodle. The media evidently did not see the resemblance when they looked into a mirror. The Press Poodles have givben this Republican administration free rein to say and do anything, and except for a few reporters and journalists, went along with it.

They know what is happening to this country, yet they say nothing. Compare this with the latter Clinton years. The Monica Lewinsky mess was really something they could get their teeth into. I can remember watching the 13 house managers parading up to the podium and condemning President Clinton for lying about sex. Those oh so pure Republicans let us know how outraged they were. Those imaginary haloes over their heads were helping to hide their vices. Think Bob Barr, Newt Gingrich, Mr Livingston (I presume) and Henry Hyde. Old Henry was okay with his extramarital escapade because it was only a youthful indiscretion. I also can remember the reporters, pundits and talk show hosts just about to explode to get their ideas out. There was face time for a lot of people wanting to get in on the act. The whole Ken Starr production was on television 24/7. Every time the television was turned on there was the master inquisitor Starr digging up the dirt and slinging it our faces. But, after all, Clinton had lied about sex! Even Joe Lieberman, a Democrat got his face time with a smarmy message about it. I will never forgive him for that.

Here we are today. Our present president has lied to the country even before he took office. He followed the script given him by Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Perle and Wolfowitz. He was given in 2000 the presidency by the Felonious Five on the Supreme Court. They promised us it would be a one-time deal. He was allowed to "win" in 2004 by the rigged voting machines. Mr. O'Dell of Diebold told us he had promised Mr. Bush he would do everything to see that he won--and lo and behold, he did. They were improving ethics and morals in the presidency.

The Press knows exactly what is going on but either they do not care, are getting paid under the table (a la Armstrong Williams) or are scared out of their wits. But I would like to remind them: when Bill Clinton lied, no one died. When Mr. Bush lied over 1800 of our men and women in the military died. But evidently sex trumps lives. Lives that have been given because we have invaded a ccountry that had done nothing to us. An illegal war.

Maybe when our media is nationalized they will change their minds, but it will be too late. Obviously the media like one-party rule in this country. They may never remove their leashes.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:38 PM
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1. There are a shitload of hard working reporters out there
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 03:38 PM by HEyHEY
Doing nothing but trying to bring the truth to the people of the US every day.
The problem with US media is that the TV media no longer consists of reporters. On the nightly news what you are seeing is a show. They get those that sound and look the best, and that trickles down into performance. They don't dig for stoires or have real contacts anymore. They get a press release and do the story. They've become lazy.
However, alot of Print media in the US is doing their job. Again re-affirming reading is always better than watching TV.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:44 PM
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4. My Dad told me that when he retired in 95. He was a news journalist
for 42 years in and around Boston.
He told me to watch and see how the news will change. Sensationalism and sex sells better than the truth of true informative journalism. He also told me to watch and see what will be dug up and reported about Clinton.
He also complained about the quality of the new kids coming into the business. They couldnt spell or put together a decent paragraph, let alone get stories from sources with corroboration and foloowups. Dad was truly disgusted by the changes he saw coming.
If he were alive today he'd be screaming at what was once the American news media.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:54 PM
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9. The old timers I work with say the same thing
Luckily on the job (obviously not on DU) I can string a sentence together. Otherwise I'd incur the wrath of the curmudgeons.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 05:29 PM
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20. That's why I point to 92 as the last election with a fairly balanced media
and I don't expect anything to change until the DNC and the Dems make a concerted effort to expose the GOP control of most of the media.
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Chipper Chat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:49 PM
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7. I am puking as we speak.
MSGOP announced their first Rita Cosby program - on MICHAEL JACKSON!
"What the jury REALLY thinks!"
Hey Rita (lovely GOP Meter Maid)- what intelligent person really gives a phuck!!!!!!!!!!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:52 PM
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8. In unrelated news
A buncha people in some country Jackson's never heard of were brutaly massacred today. We'll have Jackson's thoughts next!
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:40 PM
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2. the owners of the media set the agenda.
mainly murdoch, and the others follow out of fear & greed.

the editors enforce it.

the reporters go along or they lose their jobs.

now that bush has been re-elected, the owners have loosened the reigns a bit. control will ratchet down in 2008.

when i was just visiting my family in ohio, there was not one newpaper to be seen the entire time. the only media my parents use is Fox & CNN. they were terribly concerned about natalie holloway.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:43 PM
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3. Of course - it's day 67!!!!
AHHHHHH
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:48 PM
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6. Do the owners hold guns to "Star" Democrats who are on those TV shows?
And say- "If you dare mention the DSM, or Jeff Gannon, or election fraud, or document Bush lies- its CURTAINS!!!"
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 01:32 AM
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25. Ostriches often turn their asses to the wind when they hide their head

St Michael's Ostrich

The Ostrich I was very fortunate to be sent this photograph believed to be a direct descendent of the "St Michael's by the Sea" bird - rediscovered coutesy of the School of Bio-flaying Sciences, Athens, Georgia, USA

(Both have chosen to remain anonymous to protect their biodiversity)
(snip)
http://www.mrs-trellis.co.uk/school_memories.html
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:46 PM
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5. Who is stopping Dean, Kerry, Hillary, from speaking out on these points??
Sure, the media is owned by Republicans- but are they holding guns to DEMs with media access and telling them not to talk about the issues you brought up?

Now that we all KNOW the media is biased, what can DEMs DO about it besides complain?

I have a "wacky" idea- how about "Star" Democrats talk about the things the "reporters" "forget" to talk about whenever they are on TV?

Lets use the DSM or 2000 election fraud as an example- sure, the media refused to cover it at length- but DEMs with media access like Kerry, Dean & Hillary hardly ever or never brought it up when in front of cameras- whose fault is that?

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 03:59 PM
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10. Am I being flamed because I posted about
something that bothers me? Of course the media is controlled by Republicans. That is why I called them Press Poodles. Every Democrat on the hill can use the media but will it be covered? Why am I getting blamed for their not speaking out?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:05 PM
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12. I'm not flaming you - I'm offering a hypothetical solution to the problem!
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 04:07 PM by Dr Fate
Sorry if you think I'm flaming you- I agree with you- but I think there is more to this picture.

I'm presenting another angle- sure, the "reporters" wont repeat our talking points- all I'm saying is that DEMs with media access should talk about things that are important even if Wolf Blitzer will not.

You ask "...will it be covered?" Yes, if they say it in front of a microphone & camera on "Hardball", "Wolf Blitzer" or even a Fox show- it will indeed be covered.

Who is stopping them from saying truthful statements that "reporters" wont say?

It's "comfortable" to pretend that everything is "the media's" fault- but the fact is, we cant keep blaming Judy Woodruff for what Kerry, Dean, Hillary, Reid, Obama etc wont say.
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:03 PM
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11. Theirs, and ours for considering them Democrats
One good thing, though. I find I rarely watch any political commentary except Olberman and the Daily Show. I really don't mind Novak and the bowtie and tweety a tenth as much as I mind seeing the supposed leaders of this party sucking up to them like total assholes. They just have to go.
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Tactical Progressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:39 PM
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18. The pols need to curry favor with the media
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 04:43 PM by Tactical Progressive
like the reporters need to curry favor with their right-wing corporate bosses. Right down the chain.

Sure, they could buck the power, but then they wouldn't be on TV much after that.

You could go up to your Republican boss and tell him all about Republican liars, cheats and thieves, or you talk with your Repubican clients about how Republicans are unethical and immoral. It's a simliar dynamic in the politics of corporate media control.
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:09 PM
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13. The "media" is owned by International Corporations.
They don't care about democracy in America or anywhere else. There has to be removal of all media from Corporate ownership. It should be a campaign issue.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:10 PM
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14. NOW on PBS interviewed Robert McChesney concerning journalism
Edited on Sat Aug-06-05 04:15 PM by Democrats_win
He said that today’s corporate journalists are just stenographers. They say, here's what the Republican says, here's what the opposition says but they don’t research to see if someone's lying.

We are not benefitting from what a professional journalist can do because they've been emasculated or turned into part of the media business.

"So I think if you're a working journalist, and I teach journalism, what you should go — any time there's a government that says, 'we've got to go to this war' and starts waving the flag and telling you, 'we have to...have to...' and the more passion you get, the more you check for your wallet. The more you get skeptical, the more you say, 'Well, wait a second, we've been down this road before. We're journalists. We better get to the bottom of this and investigate all this and not take them at face value.' And that's the starting point of good journalism when it comes to getting into war."

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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:16 PM
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15. Actually, you stated it better than I did.
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:21 PM
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16. Would love to participate in this discussion because I know...
the history of the emasculation all too well, having suffered through it in my own journalism career. But now I must leave for a meeting -- ironically about this very subject. Perhaps when I return the thread will still be live.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:31 PM
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17. Here ya go NewsWolf.
Kick :kick:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 04:54 PM
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19. Tweak this a little and send it as a LTTE!
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:05 PM
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21. Blitzer says Relax he's got it covered.
Up next have Iraq's WMD gone to Syria or Iran

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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 06:33 PM
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22. I remember the day the Pentagon announced that Saddam Hussein
was capture. Many of these folks got up feet a cheered. These people thought this was great and about time. Which all of this is very strange to me, considering that reporters are suppose to report the news, not bandstand the news, very unprofessional.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-06-05 07:01 PM
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23. bribery, threat of firing, and death threats
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-05 12:17 AM
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24. I didn't hear the Robert McChesney interview, but I will assume...
the quote in #14 (above) is accurate -- that print reporters have been reduced to stenographers -- because that is surely the truth as I know it. (Television journalism is far worse; it has become a contradiction in terms: it is no longer information but cheap theater and blood sport -- a Roman coliseum of death and mayhem -- part of the corporate mandate to anesthetize the population with bread and circuses.)

Here -- I hope not too late in the thread for anyone to read it -- is a short history of the decline and fall of American media:

Forty five years ago, when I got my first newspaper job, 90 percent of the newspapers in the United States were independently owned. Most of these independent ownerships were one-paper operations; a few publishers had two or three papers. For example, the same family that published The New York Times had gotten its start in newspapering by publishing The Chattanooga Times. Chains like Scripps-Howard -- Gannett was then mostly an Upstate New York publisher -- owned the remaining 10 percent.

In those days, journalism was pretty much a blue-collar field: the people who went into it were mostly bright articulate kids from blue-collar/union families, many with the fine parochial-school educations that even then were so academically superior to public-school educations. Hence the would-be reporters of yesteryear often brought to their jobs the hard-edged skepticism acquired during blue-collar childhoods -- and, very often, they brought genuine Leftist politics as well. In fact the politics were often the decisive factor: otherwise these same kids might have gone into the priesthood or the maybe the cops.

Back then you got into journalism pretty much as I did: you talked to the managing editor of your local paper, you got a job as a copy boy or a stringer or both, and you worked your way up. It was therefore a remarkably egalitarian field -- in many respects the most democratic line of work in America. If you went to college -- and not everybody did -- you majored in history or sociology or political science or some combination of all three; or maybe you wanted to be a science writer, so you majored in physics. Journalism schools were sneered at; they were for turning out public relations flacks -- giving the future corporate mouthpieces just enough background in news writing to enable them to craft a press release that might be mistaken for a real story.

Now the numbers are worse than reversed: 90-something percent of all U.S. newspapers are owned by chains -- media monopolies -- and fewer than 10 percent are owned independently and/or locally. All the changes in media itself are the direct consequences of this change in ownership patterns. For instance:

To get on a newspaper today, you first have to demonstrate that you are wealthy enough to purchase four years of college -- the U.S. being the only industrial nation on the planet that determines one's eligibility for higher education ultimately on one's ability to pay. Then -- assuming you or your parents can pay for it -- you have to get a journalism degree, the form and content of which is entirely shaped by how much money which media monopoly has given what college. Whatever, one thing is certain: a journalism degree is the very worst of vocational education: an education in pure technique {including enough computer science to qualify for a minor}; an education utterly devoid of context or intellectual content -- literally, training to be a stenographic automaton and nothing more -- because that is precisely what the monopolies want.

But even that degree of dumbing-down is not enough. Where the reporter of yesteryear was hired by fellow news people on the basis of intellect, skill and potential -- typically you were interviewed by the managing editor, then the city editor (or metropolitan editor) and finally the editor-in-chief -- today's journalist has to first pass the Big Business equivalent of fraternity/sorority rush: corporate-style personnel management (today called "human resources") to make certain the job supplicant is suitably compliant with the triple corporate tyrannies of lockstep conformity, vindictive anti-intellectuality and forcible mediocrity. Therefore to even get in the monopoly door, today's journalist has to demonstrate the proper corporate personhood before his or her actual journalistic talents are even considered -- and the demonstration is judged, pass/fail, by someone who has been hired as the ultimate embodiment of these tyrannies: conformity, anti-intellectuality, mediocrity -- the corporate golden mean (pun intended). Fail the personnel-office personality test -- be rejected during this post-baccalaureate nightmare version of pledge-week rush (a test many old-time newsmen {including myself} could never possibly pass) -- and you'll be shown the door, never to get close to an editor or a newsroom as long as you live. But if you pass it, remember the editor to whom you are next sent was himself/herself hired by just such a process, and is therefore predictably conformist, anti-intellectual and mediocre.

The old guard -- those of us who remember better days -- are deliberately cast aside, ever more methodically marginalized. (I still write professionally, but my own "career" -- that is, in the sense of benefits, full employment, pension etc. -- ended two decades ago when an employer went bankrupt. Just as I was too obviously bohemian to ever pass frat-house muster, I am too obviously bohemian to ever pass personnel-office muster. Long ago I decided not to bother, because the few times I tried, I failed. And now I am simply too old: as skilled as ever -- perhaps even more so -- but too likely to remember when "I'm a newspaperman" was a justifiably prideful statement, therefore too likely to be a troublemaker in today's lockstep-conformist newsrooms.)

And so it goes. The journalism schools give the monopolies exactly the sorts of employees the monopolies demand, because the monopolies provide the endowments that finance the journalism schools. The corporate personnel offices further screen the selection, eliminating anyone who is not sufficiently conformist, anti-intellectual and mediocre -- in other words, anyone who might rock the corporate boat. And because the media-monopoly money is ultimately Big Business money -- global oligarchy money -- today's media now mirrors the oligarchy itself: venomously conformist, vindictively anti-intellectual and zealously mediocre in everything save insatiable greed.

The atmosphere in today's newsroom is of course radically different too. In the newsrooms of yesteryear -- even on non-Guild papers -- there was solidarity of a degree unknown anywhere else in workplace America. But today -- because the the forcible gentrification of newsrooms necessarily brought with it all the vicious penchants for back-stabbing and brown-nosing and betrayal that are among the chief identifying characteristics of the great American upper-middle class -- newsrooms are as malevolently cutthroat as any business. As a colleague of mine puts it, "one of the biggest reasons I went into journalism was because I didn't want to work in an insurance office. But then the corporations took over, and now that's exactly what it is -- an insurance office." He doesn't need to add that what is ensured -- that is, amid all the back-stabbing and brown-nosing -- is that America sinks ever deeper into deliberately induced ignorance.


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