AAR reporting bogus Iran IED story....over and over and over!

[Gabi Hayes]

this one, refuted by Juan Cole

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/06/politics/06bomb.html?hp&ex=1123300800&en=78849d462a599fdc&ei=5094&partner=homepage

WASHINGTON, Aug. 5 - Many of the new, more sophisticated roadside bombs used to attack American and government forces in Iraq have been designed in Iran and shipped in from there, United States military and intelligence officials said Friday, raising the prospect of increased foreign help for Iraqi insurgents.

American commanders say the deadlier bombs could become more common as insurgent bomb makers learn the techniques to make the weapons themselves in Iraq.

But just as troubling is that the spread of the new weapons seems to suggest a new and unusual area of cooperation between Iranian Shiites and Iraqi Sunnis to drive American forces out - a possibility that the commanders said they could make little sense of given the increasing violence between the sects in Iraq.

Unlike the improvised explosive devices devised from Iraq's vast stockpiles of missiles, artillery shells and other arms, the new weapons are specially designed to destroy armored vehicles, military bomb experts say. The bombs feature shaped charges, which penetrate armor by focusing explosive power in a single direction and by firing a metal projectile embedded in the device into the target at high speed. The design is crude but effective if the vehicle's armor plating is struck at the correct angle, the experts said.

this is so fricking disGUSTing; all day long they're running a 'news' story, word-for-word the same every broadcast (top of the hour)

they reference the NYT story, and appear to be quoting it, as well.

This is NOT some AP (or some other) based broadcast, either. They say it's AAR news, loud and clear.

Not one word of possible other interpretation, either. It reads exactly like a DOD press release

one of the most disgusting things I've ever heard, and the fact that it appears serially on AAR is, well, beyond description. What the hell are they USING for their news sourcing: USIA, VOA, Foxnews?

I'd sure like to get some answers on that.

the top of the hour broadcast is coming up in five minutes. I wonder if they're still running this bogus story

here's the LBN thread on the Times story
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1680902&mesg_id=1680902

now, the Juan Cole debunking
http://www.juancole.com/2005/08/fool-me-once-shame-on-you-fool-me-cant.html

does this make anybody else as furious as it does me?

there have been threads here about this story/counterstory, but the idea that AAR is acting as a stenographer for government BS propaganda, just like the rest of the MSM, is just SO wrong in so many ways.....

[Pirate Smile]

1. Is it AAR or CNN? Quite a few AAR affiliates or "progressive talk"

affiliates use CNN for their news breaks.

[Gabi Hayes]

4. NO....they specifically said AAR News each time the 'report' was run

I've read other news outlets broadcast segments in the past, but I was listening with great interest to see just WHO was doing these broadcast, and they said AAR News, or AAR whatever, so it was inhouse, not farmed out to AP, whom I've heard in the past

>>>>so far, five minutes into the broadcast, they haven't mentioned it, so maybe they aren't going to anymore. they ran it very early, if not first, the times I heard it today

[BrklynLiberal]

5. Acha!! Must check the sources before we condemn. I listen via

the main station WLIB in NYC..so they would have no excuses here. I am going ot have to go turn on the radio and see what the next broadcast here has to say about that event.

[Gabi Hayes]

8. it was absolutely under AAR imprimatur today. I'm positive

BTW, they didn't run the story during the 9PM EDT broadcast.

What the hell are they DOING, though, running stories like this, that are the EPITOME of the lies being spread by Judy Miller, etal, that whipped up the public "frenzy" that allowed our sellout Achordate Party reps to vote for the IWR in 2002?

I can't tell you how nauseating this is

are they THAT clueless?

and it's not as if Juan Cole is an unknown for them; just about the only place one EVER hears his voice is on their shows

talk about incompetentd....or???

[BrklynLiberal]

2. You are absolutely right! Why the hell is AAR doing the MSM thing?

[MadMichDem]

3. Detroit progressive radio uses CNN for "news" n/t

[iconoclastic cat]

6. Well, Redstate.org will be pleased...

[Gabi Hayes]

11. OOK! why did you do that? my computer is forever infected

that site is as bad az freepublic

[enough]

7. Are we going to watch this happen again --

or can we get the word out, in a way that has an effect? Need to keep that Juan Cole article out in the open.

[halobeam]

9. Isn't Laura Flanders on right now? She has an open blog thread during the

show... wonder if it would help to put this on her blog?

http://shows.airamericaradio.com/lauraflanders/node/2756#comment

[Gabi Hayes]

10. thanks! I was thinking about calling the show

she had Mark Miller on the first hour, talking about his book, and how he lost ALL respect for Kerry when he caved immediately after the 'returns' were in.

so it's not like she's swallowing the koolaid, or anything

dunno if they're having open phones, though

Harry Belafonte on now

I LOVE him.....has anybody ever described Colin Powell more accurately than he?

[Lannes]

12. It was also on CBS news last night

[Gabi Hayes]

13. as stenogaphy, just like the Times article?

gee, what a surprise

did you happen to catch McLaughlin tonight?

Tony Snowman said that anybody who claims we don't have the military strenght to INVADE IRAN is, in effect, a traitor

that was pretty great stuff

what in the world is he thinking about; how in the WORLD would we be able to lift one finger, other than air war, against Iraq?

lord knows what the consequences of that would be

[Lannes]

14. No I didnt

Doesnt surprise me that it spread so quickly despite being proven false.Plenty of room on the bandwagon.

[glitch]

16. All this talk about Iran - they are trying to provoke another LIHOP

if there is no attack on the US they won't be able to fabricate support for an attack on Iran.
If no one succumbs to their provocation they'll go to plan b: MIHOP.
Same plot as the pre-911 Afghanistan operation noise.
They really are that stupid, and the people who buy their act are just as ignorant, regardless of the positions they hold in government and media.

[blue sky at night]

15. I could never understand the news source........

on AAR. They are constantly annoying, always with sound bites from GWB at the top of the news. I just don't get it, but they must not be able to foot the bill for their own news department. They ain't perfect, but what you point out is indeed disGUSTing. Thanks for the post!!

[Gabi Hayes]

17. zackly.....this is a sore spot, indeed. wonder how to go about

finding out what the deal is with their news

my guess is they don't have any news budget, but take a newsfeed from some AP-like source, and just read it back

maybe I'll call Majority Report and see what Bill Crowley has to say.

he comes on every night during the last hour

[steve2470]

18. I just sent them an email, hopefully they'll stop it soon nt

[Gabi Hayes]

22. they haven't run it the last two broadcasts, so perhaps they've

finished with it

the fact remains that they did it several times

I never listen to news, or ads, usually, cause I have a timer next to the computer

if you do this, you'll never have to listen to any of their obnoxious ads again....I know they need commercial support, but I'm not interested in getting hypnotized, or becoming rich overnight

try this...after their first break following the news, set timer for four minutes

then, at 38 minutes after the hour, set it for six minutes (this is ALWAYS the case...28 minutes)

then, at the next break, set it for four minutes

then, as they break for news (usually 58 minutes after), set it for eight minutes

this is CLOCKWORK, I tell ya....almost to the second

it's SO pleasing

[Nigel_Tufnel]

19. are they still running that story? i heard it about 1:00 p.m. today

and almost barfed.

thought i was listing to WOR, not WLIB

[Gabi Hayes]

20. did you have to turn the volume up very far to hear it?

up to, say.....eleven?

[Nigel_Tufnel]

21. yep - it still has the tagger, and no one can touch it

look at the flame on that radio....