Secret Service threatens Cindy after the media and police left.

[ray of light]

This is the email Cindy sent out:

Hi Brian,

I have just had a very disturbing call from Cindy- there are ten people preparing to sleep out on the side of the road, the media and police have gone, SEVERAL secret service people have stopped by to give this message

"people drive very fast on this road, somebody could run over you and you could get killed"


Cindy was frightened by this message and asked me to ask you to post it. If this were not the government of Karl Rove you could take it lightly. But sadly, it is. I told Cindy to have people take turns keeping watch, I hope the Vets will go back to stand guard.


It is hard to believe we live in these times, hard to believe we are governed by such dangerous people, and for us at GSFP hard to comprehend why we are without our sons. Thank you to everyone for your amazing support today, plesae stay with us.


Celeste Zappala
co founder, Gold Star Families for Peace
Mother of Sgt. Sherwood Baker, KIA 4/26/04-Baghdad
Sherwood was killed protecting the Iraq Survey Group as they looked for the non-existent Weapons of Mass Destruction


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[fleabert]

1. kick...nt

[americaheldhostile]

22. SS taking cues from Freepers?

I've kept an eye on how the FreepTards are responding to this topic, and I noticed that one of them suggested just such a scenario earlier. Is the SS taking its cues from these morAns? Check it out (notice the time stamp says 08/06/2005 3:42:35 PM PDT):
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"To: kristinn

They better watch where they march on those roads around Crawford. Trucks really zip along those roads and you never can tell what's on the road ahead when you go over a hill. Of course if a trucker knew that there were 70 antiwar protesters ahead.... (I drove to Crawford last time I was back home - definitely a very typical tiny Texas town).

77 posted on 08/06/2005 3:42:35 PM PDT by Moonmad27"
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458324/posts?q=1&&page=51

[Carni]

81. *Kristinn* is one of the FR's head muckety mucks

Organizers or whatever for the DC chapter...

He and a fat ass woman screen named "angelfire" are the ones that put together the group that screamed "get out of Cheney's house" at Al Gore and family during the recounts.

I always got the impression trolling FR BTW that Kristinn was a log cabin Repuke.

[FreedomAngel82]

110. Get out of Cheney's house?

[Carni]

117. Freerepublic members stood outside of Gore's (the VP's) house

All during the 2000 recounts screaming "Get out of cheney's house" morning noon and night through bullhorns.

The media made it appear to be concerned random US citizens upset with the process but it was really just freak republic members.

[ray of light]

47. Anarchy is right...stay calm people. Cindy agrees. Be calm but informed.

This was exactly what she wanted people to know. She wanted this out on the internets to keep all of them safe.

She knows just having this in the bloghosphere protects her from a nut or BushCO pulling a stunt.


We spoke additionally of further ideas to keep them safe. So let's keep things calm and trust that Anarchy is also checking on Cindy.

(I tried to edit that into the main post.)

[Carni]

85. Tell her that is no protection

I am not trying to spoil the party but she has no idea how a distraught woman that has lost a son can be painted as a nut.
(I can just see it now)

Those people need to TOTALLY be on their toes IMO

[wli]

2. I saw this one coming from a mile off. More BFEE death threats.

Amazing, they truly are willing to assassinate anyone.

[HeeBGBz]

45. Sure sounds like a threat to me

Spread the word.

[moggie]

111. "Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?"

It's more likely to be plain intimidation than a threat they intend to carry out, but I'm sure the freepers get the message loud and clear.

[me b zola]

3. We have learned that there is no low too low for bush inc.

I hope the vets do return and keep Cindy and the other mothers safe.



FUGWB! :grr:

[ray of light]

9. Me too.

I will try to see if there are other ways to help in the meantime. (If I can get through.)

BUT for now we can do this:

1. Send more people to protect them.

2. Make it tent city! (I would be willing to join, but I can't therefore I'm stuck encouraging locals to please, please go.

3. TELL the world. Tell them Cindy's story. Make it THEIR story--the story of a mom's love and devotion and grief and ask them the eternal questions: "What would YOU do if this had been your kid?" AND "What would Jesus do?" (ok the WWJD is for the fundies and might be a low blow.)

4. Highway blog.

5. I know it washes away, BUT get some sidewalk chalk and mark the sidewalks EVERYWHERE you go! Get your kids involved.

6. Make or buy t'shirts supporting Cindy and if you sell them send a donation to them.

7. Ask a group of friends over to begin a community newspaper-then take the newpaper door to door and give it to people.

8. Have a sit-in or camp out locally in support of Cindy. Surround your local media outlet and do it for each day of Bush's vacation.

9. Come to the march in DC September 24th.

10. Have a candlelight vigil each night in your hometown and say prayers or sing anti-war songs for these people in Crawford.

[chknltl]

4. kicked and recomended nt

[nookiemonster]

5. One question.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE GODDAMNED MEDIA???

Oh wait, I forgot. :sarcasm:

:dunce:

[ray of light]

6. we are the media?

http://www.capwiz.com/pdaamerica/mail/

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. Kick..... this is still America... and threats made by representatives

of our government simply won't do.

[texanwitch]

8. Our brave little King George hides on his pig farm and he sends out his

SS to threaten a woman who lost her son in Iraq, what a sad day for the US.

Somebody high up is a frightend of Cindy, what a brave woman.

Is this the freedom our troops are fighting for?

[Twist_U_Up]

12. not a pig farm its a CHICKEN RANCH

:bounce: :loveya: :headbang: :woohoo: :applause: :rofl: :rofl:

[texanwitch]

13. You got that right, a Chicken Hawk Ranch.

[anarchy1999]

26. Sorry for you. George's ranch is a converted pig farm. Jim Hightower

spoke highly of it and George's ranching abilities last night in Dallas as the VFP Convention.

George's "ranch" was a pig farm.

[QC]

46. It's his country estate. n/t

[CubsFan1982]

10. I don't get it.

Where's the sinister part of this? If you sleep on the side of a road, you run that risk, duh.

[ray of light]

11. Really? But surely the local police would have set up safe guards

like they do here when we have a stupid little event! AND why did they wait UNTIL everyone LEFT--including the media and the local police?

AND if that was their concern, then frankly, the police should be there protecting them.

WHY however did they decide to scare them off? Why didn't they just do the "RIGHT" thing and CALL the police and say, 'LOOK...I WANT THESE PEOPLE PROTECTED. I WANT TRAFFIC DIVERTED or I WANT PYLONS PUT AROUND THEM TO PROTECT THEM."

That is the RIGHT way a MORAL person would behave.

[davepc]

34. The police have no legal obligation to provide protection to any individua

"...fundamental principle of American law that a government and its agents are under no general duty to provide public services, such as police protection, to any individual citizen." Warren v. District of Columbia, 444 A.2d 1 (D.C. Ct. of Ap., 1981)

See also the decisions in:

* Riss v. City of New York, 22 N.Y.2d 579, 293 NYS2d 897, 240 N.E.2d 860 (N.Y. Ct. of Ap. 1958)
* Keane v. City of Chicago, 98 Ill. App.2d 460, 240 N.E.2d 321 (1968)
* Morgan v. District of Columbia, 468 A.2d 1306 (D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1983)
* Calogrides v. City of Mobile, 475 So.2d 560 (S.Ct. A;a. 1985)
* Morris v. Musser, 478 A.2d 937 (1984)
* Davidson v. City of Westminster, 32 C.3d 197, 185 Cal.Rptr. 252, 649 P.2d 894 (S.Ct. Cal. 1982)
* Chapman v. City of Philadelphia, 434 A.2d 753 (Sup.Ct. Penn. 1981)
* Weutrich v. Delia, 155 N.J. Super 324, 326, 382 A.2d 929, 930 (1978)
* Sapp v. City of Tallahassee, 348 So.2d 363 (Fla.Ct. of Ap. 1977)
* Simpson's Food Fair v. Evansville, 272 N.E. 2d 871 (Ind.Ct. of Ap.)
* Silver v. City of Minneapolis, 170 N.W.2d 206 (S.Ct. Minn. 1969) and
* Bowers v. DeVito, 686 F.2d 61 (7th Cir. 1982).


Anyone sleeping on the side of a road should take the proper precautions, the police nor any other government agency has any obligations to take those precautions for them.

The population of Crawford is around 700, so I don't think they have much of a police force anyways, if one at all. And the Secret Service's job is to protect the President, not political protesters on a roadside.

[cornermouse]

14. Is that really a threat from the Secret Service?

Or, more likely, a factual statement about Bush's driving? That was my first thought.

Interesting website. I think Cindy will be all right.

Its probably trivial of me, but one obviously city dwelling person is afraid they might be attacked by coyotes? Another one (whose car no doubt has very little paint left on it, numerous dings from rocks, and has probably gone in the ditch more than once due to loose gravel) drives 55-60 mph down a gravel road all the time? Where do these people come from?

[ray of light]

16. Clearly it instilled fear enough in Cindy that she immediately

got the word out for her own protection.

Check out the pictures here too: http://wwww.afterdowningstreet.org

[RebelOne]

19. I clicked on the link and got the message

that the Web site does not exist.

[Art_from_Ark]

24. Try deleting one of the W's in the URL

There's one too many

[cornermouse]

21. I don't doubt that it instilled fear.

The Secret Service is an intimidating organization, to say the least. Like I said Bush driving was my first thought, but I suppose there is also the possibility of the twins.

I don't think the Secret Service is going to assassinate anyone with what would be considered limited suspects near the ranch and I am sure they already knew that people would be watching. I think they were more concerned about the disastrous PR aspects of a drunk or speeding car or now that I think of it, gravel kicked up by a speeding car, hitting them.

[marions ghost]

31. coyotes do not attack people

(tho you might worry about your chihuahua or poodle...)

It's vicious people I'd be afraid of in Cindy's case

[cornermouse]

36. I know.

And I don't keep anything as small as a chihuahua or poodle. :)

[kestrel91316]

51. What kind of coyote would attack a group of adult humans????

Coyotes avoid people (though here in Los Angeles they have lost much of their fear) and I cannot envision one attacking a person unless it had rabies.

[ninkasi]

55. Coyotes are no threat

I would be much, much more afraid of the feral hogs that roam the rural areas. I think, though, that the danger would be in coming up on one by surprise, I doubt they would approach a group of people. We used to get them at our place all the time, and they can do a lot of damage in a short period of time.

I just pray that Cindy and the rest stay safe. The Chickenhawk-in-Chief is probably too drunk to come out.

[anarchy1999]

15. Please remain calm It is way too early for me to make phone

calls. This is unexceptable behavior and does not happen in Crawford.


It is 5:00 in the am, I can't wake up everyone, I just can not and I know that whoever is with Cindy is making sure she is well taken care of.

Don't mess with Texas. It is a true phrase.


We take care of our own and Cindy is one Please everyone be calm.


We have far more to gain.

[ray of light]

17. yeh, no phone calls yet...5 am is too early...what about...

6 am...It's six am mY time?

Seriously, I didn't mean we had to make calls THIS very minute! BUT we need to watch this situation and make plans how to handle it in the longterm.

[anarchy1999]

18. You need to take a really serious chill pill and calm down.

The Peace House, our Vets and many others are on top of this situation and they have far more experience than you or I. Settle down. Do some meditating, take a walk, breath deep.

More coming soon.

[anarchy1999]

23. The article you are referring to came from 10 last night. Have you lost

your sweet young mind?!

I'm semi-angry. Why do you not understand that Ms. Sheehan is being taken care of. The activists in the area will not leave her alone. What more do you need to know? Give it a rest!! We have many more days and weeks to go.

[ray of light]

37. actually, I posted the email which was new to me.

Anarchy, I'm just trying to keep people informed. AND she put that out there for her own protection too. The more who know, the safer she is.

I am glad people are taking care of her.

[ray of light]

43. Anarchy, I just spoke to Cindy.

And she said thanks for posting this here. This was exactly what she wanted people to know. She wanted this out on the internets to keep all of them safe.

She knows just having this in the bloghosphere protects her from a nut or BushCO pulling a stunt.


We spoke additionally of further ideas to keep them safe.


Edited to add this:

But Anarchy, I appreciate your attempts to keep people calm, as does Cindy. Nobody wants people going "nuts", so I will reiterate you statement to everyone to stay calm.

Thanks...(Hope you will not be as angry after hearing these statements from Cindy...truce?)

[anarchy1999]

58. Truce and Peace.

Thanks for all you've been doing.

[ray of light]

61. Thank you anarchy! I really mean it. I most certainly did not want

to offend anyone, make them angry, or even start a riot. I attempted to pm you, but I guess it didn't work. If you would like to pm me to let me know how else I might help, I would be very willing to work with you as best I can.

(absolutely no sarcasm! )

[Stil]

20. Tell Cindy

A lot of people are thinking of her and support her.

And you take care also. Keep the water going.

[Twist_U_Up]

25. wouldn`t it be nice to catch these confrontations on film

she could with this little device

http://www.dynaspy.com/?OVRAW=mini%20spy%20camera&OVKEY=mini%20spy%20camera&OVMTC=standard

[cap]

27. I am wondering if this is the real SS

or some goons that are posing as SS.

[KeepItReal]

32. Exactly. They may be civilians.

ID those fools, if possible.

[ray of light]

41. she said they were real. And their intent was to intimidate them

into leaving.

[ray of light]

40. she said they were real.

[Eloriel]

76. Of course they were real

The SS does Bush's bidding and has from the get-go. They keep protesters away from him, protect him from even SEEING them. They work thru (with) local law enforcement to abridge our free speech rights, not just when they insist on cordoning off protesters as much as a mile away from the site of a Bush appearance, but also by refusing to let little old men and women attend a public event like a baseball game armed with 8-1/2x11 sheets of protest signs. (Seriously, that happened in FL a couple of years ago, and the SS was blamed, along with the Tampa or was it St. Pete police?)

Oh, yes, the SS is definitely doing Bush's bidding.

[Carni]

93. My concern would be freep sympathizers

I would like the people involved there to be aware that a lone FR nut pulling some type of crap would not be out of the question.

As brain washed naturally as the FR culture is, the SS or any Manchurian types are not needed, because some loony jack ass that wanted their five minutes of fame would be readily available of their own volition.

I am sure she is well protected and I admire her stance (tremendously) but my fear is that some idiot public person and not the SS would take a stand.

All those there need to be more wary of freeper types than they are of SS IMO

[anarchy1999]

28. I've said it once and I will very proudly say it again. I'll reach the

folks in Crawford in the respectable AM. Cindy is okay and being well cared for. I know the man who bought the Crawford Peace House, I know the Vets who went with her to Crawford and Hadi, (Co-founder of Peace House) did not make it back to Dallas until sometime around 10 tonight.

Stop it.

Cindy is in good hands.

[shadowknows69]

30. shouldn't they be able to walk closer to the ranch today?

if they stay in their ditch of course. I mean this is America right why couldn't they walk on public property closer to bush's residence. that little twerp that calls himself our president needs to see what real bravery and honor are.

[ray of light]

42. she said she was going to try to do that.

[BamaBecky]

29. kicking for Cindy

[October]

33. kick

[rateyes]

35. Hey Shrubo,

if you are so concerned about people's safety out on the highway, why don't you be Christian about it and invite them onto the ranch. Be hospitable--coward.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

38. Maybe a few people there should get voice activated tape recorders???

[devinsgram]

39. Kick, everybody needs to know this

[CoffeeCat]

44. This is why several video cameras are imperative....

...if I was Cindy or someone participating in this event--I would not be without my video camera.

Besides documenting shenanigans--it can also deter thugs from engaging in illegal and threatening behavior--because they know that they're being taped.

[Midlodemocrat]

48. At the risk of being flamed big time here,

I have a friend who works for the SS. He has for about 20 years and has been on the Presidential detail since the big dog.

He despises Bush. With all his heart and soul. He would NEVER threaten someone like Cindy Sheehan, but he is not at the ranch this week, he is on vacation.

Is it possible that they weren't threatening, but warning?

My friend states that he works for the President, as in the office, not the person.

Feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong.

:hide:

[ray of light]

49. Cindy says no.

She clearly felt they were attempting to intimidate them into leaving. They may be acting on someone elses orders.

I'm not going to flame you and I hope others don't. All of us understand the the SS are working for the president and take orders from someone else.

But as I said, Cindy very much felt they were trying to intimidate them into leaving but she remained resolved to stay.

[Midlodemocrat]

52. If that is the case, that is truly disturbing.

I KNOW my friend wouldn't do that. He is very distressed at the fascist turn this country is taking and truly despises the policies of this administration.

I am certain that for everyone in the SS who doesn't like * there is an equal or greater number of those who do. And, even the ones like my friend take orders from someone else.

What a travesty. What a horrible nation we have become.

[ray of light]

54. I understand. But how many times in our employement

Do we have to take orders that we disagree with or find ourselves pounding the streets.

I wish you and your friend well.

[Midlodemocrat]

56. But this is so much more serious.

Intimidating a bereaved, yet determined mom is just beyond the pale. There is a special place in the circle of hell for such behavior.

Cindy Sheehan is a true American patriot. I am only sorry that she had to suffer so much in order to be heard by these fascist bastards.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

50. Then why were the SS following orders and telling people not to look

at Bush? Also, it is the SS that has been dictating free speech zones!
I think that is damn un-American!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4274087

[Midlodemocrat]

53. I completely agree with you.

I guess my frame of reference for the SS lies with my friend and the thought that someone would actually intimidate a mom who was trying to get answers about her child's death makes my blood run cold.

[anarchy1999]

59. When will these guys get brave enough to march the criminals out in

handcuffs and chains for subverting our Constitution and committing treason? That's what I want to know.

[dogday]

57. How Patriotic can you get?

threatening a Mother of a dead soldier. Real smooth guys, real smooth....

[sakabatou]

60. Now that is frightening

[Quixote1818]

62. It's possible the secret service was worried about nutcases

who would actually run over protesters.

[ailsagirl]

68. Doubt that's their meaning. Pardon my cynicism but they do

serve chimpo, after all.

[Liberty Belle]

63. Sheehan's vigil made the TV news in Thousand Oaks,

a conservative town in California where I spent the weekend visiting relatives. It's great to see this getting air time in red communities.

[ray of light]

64. Light a candle for Cindy and other families

and let it stay lit to remind them. They will take the blinders off when it comes to their family and their kids.
(Put it someplace safe and make sure it's in a self-contained container.)

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[steve2470]

66. kick

but not because of Mr. Saturn, that's for sure.

[ailsagirl]

69. self-delete

[ray of light]

71. I think we should remember that Cindy is the little guy--Bush is the big

one. So I think we'd both agree she's using her power in the only way available; whereas, he's using OUR tax dollars and OUR media for his own nefarious purposes.

[ailsagirl]

86. GRANDSTANDING??? Your compassion overwhelms me!!

:hi:

[ray of light]

116. Hi ailsagirl, I think we have a little bit of confusion here

I was responding to your self-deleted post to the probable troll because after you self-deleted then I couldn't figure out how to self delete mine. So I was telling the troll that we need to remember who is the big guy and who is the little one. Sorry about the awkwardness of it.

But if you see my post below this one, you'll see I said, "Cindy is not grandstanding."

[ailsagirl]

118. No, ray of light-- that wasn't directed at you. Sorry for the

misunderstanding!!! I was responding to ring of saturn or
whatever his/her name was. Thankfully, I see the posts
are gone. (Thanks, moderator!!)

:)

[ray of light]

119. yeh, that's what I thought happened. I did that once or twice too.

But I just wanted to make sure.

[ailsagirl]

120. I'm glad you asked!!

:)

[ray of light]

70. Hey, welcome. She's not grandstanding. She deserves to have him answer!

This morning Cindy led dozens of protesters as close as they could get to the ranch; they were stopped by local police about five miles away. Cindy and others plan to stay there throughout Bush's five-week August vacation until he agrees to meet with her and other family members of soldiers killed in Iraq and answer their questions about the war.
I'm reposting this from another thread. Let others more experienced than me decide if you're not what you seem.


Throughout the afternoon and evening, however, the Secret Service has been telling protesters that if they stay there they may be hit by Secret Service vehicles. Cindy says, "They've told us this at least ten times. There isn't much room between the side of the road and the fence, and they go zooming by far over the speed limit." Cindy reports the Secret Service already ran a mother and her six year-old off the road. She believes the Secret Service's actions are a clear attempt to coerce her and the other protesters into leaving.

Cindy and others are asking to meet with the Secret Service and local police to ensure the safety of everyone involved. In the meantime, she asks that anyone who can contact the media to alert them to the situation.

If you are able to do this, media contact information can be found here. Please politely let them know what's been happening with the Secret Service, and encourage them to continue covering Cindy's efforts to meet with President Bush.

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[dweller]

77. sounds as tho you believe the demonstrators

are capable of some potential harm to the *moron...yet you find it hard to
understand that others see potential harm to the demonstrators is being
threatened.


dp

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[dweller]

95. "protestors obstructing"

are your words, i didn't put them there.

yes, the demonstrators deserve to be mowed down by speeding cars if the *moron falls off his bike or chokes on a pretzel'. In fact, they should be holding his hand so he can safely cross the street at all intersections too.
A shame they are not surrounding him and protecting all of us from his madness.

10000000000 members, no matter. You are doing fine 'alienating' yourself.

carry on.
dp

[Laurab]

108. "I'm a Vet" isn't exactly what she would say I don't think

Her son WAS a vet. He died in *'s war that was based on lies and deceit. As a mother, I can't imagine what I would do if I were in Ms. Sheehan's place, but yes, I think she deserves answers more than other voting, tax paying American's. Especially more than the voting tax-paying Admerican's who voted for that POS. You call it "grandstanding" - I call it bringing necessary attention to something that * has been able to avoid, and that is the real toll on human beings. Mothers, fathers, sons, daughters.

The woman has COURAGE, but they say once you lose a child, you really have nothing left to fear - the worst has already happened. She is turning her personal tragedy into good by working to stop the insanity. I'm quite sure the SS can speed along the road to protect the pResident just fine, and that there are plenty of Ss at the ranch itself to "protect" the pResident from his pretzels and bike rides, and from the dangerous mother who would like a few words with him.

Obviously you are not a parent. To think that a mother grieving for her son is "grandstanding" is what I would call "absurd".

[riverrunner]

72. well he treated her like dirt...

it's called payback...

ain't that something right wingers understand?

[Eloriel]

79. Sometimes it's precisely that type of "grandstanding" that makes

a difference:


THE MOST IMPORTANT ANTIWAR EVENT IN A GENERATION
For months now, we’ve been planning for the mass rally in Washington, DC on September 24th;

snip

But, as it turns out, one fearless and determined mother, along with a handful of vets, took a spontaneous action which, as it turns out, is probably going to be remembered as this generation’s watershed antiwar event. So simple, so seamless, so Cindy Sheehan.
-- more --

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1993199

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[bettyellen]

106. it really kills you that she's being heard doesn't it?

we both know that the SS would love her to just go, and so would you.
you're right honey, something stinks. LOL.

[helderheid]

67. KICK

:mad:

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[DemonFighterLives]

80. You could call it words of wisdom

;)

[dweller]

83. damn, i would have called it sarcastic...

since we all recognize bs when we see it.

:D

dp

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[dweller]

98. i'm sorry, did i insinuate?

b/c i really, really meant to say 'bullshit'.

dp

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[dweller]

102. I believe what Cindy is doing is very, very clear to members here.

And it is being supported and lauded on many threads. If i could make it to Crawford to support her AND demonstrate against this failure of a pResident, i would in a heartbeat. She has my gratitude and admiration for her courage to put herself in his destructive path. The most i could do at this point in time is to join in a hunger strike in solidarity for her actions.

On the other hand, it's even more clear that you've stepped into a large liberal and leftist website with nothing but piss and vinegar for a person who's at least got the moxie and determination to put her life on the line against what i and others see as an evil and mistaken failure in Iraq, brought on by an even eviler little man. You have chosen, it appears, to express your disdain for Cindy's actions by belittling her and the other demonstrator's activities by questioning whether they are placing the *moron in danger, as if with the SS protective services he could be in danger.

I'll take my chances with the Left, and with my influential discourse. I do not agree with, nor want to participate in your style of winning friends and influencing people. With that, you are on your own.

dp

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[DemonFighterLives]

88. Maybe you're right

The pig flys on Tuesday.

[DemonFighterLives]

114. I think it was the code words that did the damage

I was wondering where my posts were going last night. I see a quite a few went down the memory hole.
Go Cindy! They can throw her in the fire ants and threaten to run over dozens of people, but she is the kind of hero we need.
:patriot:

[dweller]

115. ya think?

now all that's left of some of those messages is a lingering smell of sulpher.

that, and tearing down the 'bridges for the wingnutz to cross over' that was being built. lol.

dp

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[DemonFighterLives]

92. See my post 90

It is your attitude my dear friend.
Peace.

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[Bluebear]

82. Posting rules here are pretty free

If someone has a concern about "Gosh" who are you and I to censor it? PS I haven't heard anything about Gosch here in a dog's age.

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[Bluebear]

94. OK good luck I can see you're in a fine mood!

:scared:

[in_cog_ni_to]

96. Sheesh. Some people are

so transparent! :eyes: Someone seems not so happy to be here. Hmmmm. I wonder why? :shrug:

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[Catherine Vincent]

105. If you are really a Democrat you would support Ms. Sheehan and

what she is doing.

[libnnc]

107. What problems do you have with grieving mothers

protesting an illegal, immoral war sold to this country on a pack of lies?

What's your beef with Cindy Sheehan?

I'm curious to know.


Or I could just tell you to blow it out your old wazoo. :shrug:

[FreedomAngel82]

109. Wow

Disgusting. Simply disgusting. :mad:

[donheld]

112. Peace to Cindy

:hug:

[Hekate]

113. Shades of Rachel Corrie. Gods keep Cindy et al. safe tonight

what a world

Hekate

[walldude]

121. I doubt there will be any accidents...

They already look bad here, everything they try to do to stop this only makes them look worse...