Disease "X"

[HysteryDiagnosis]

How many Gulf War I soldiers have died in the last 10+ years?? How convenient.


http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/search/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000963439


A third piece, sent to MacArthur the following day, reported the disease "still snatching away lives here. Men, women and children with no outward marks of injury are dying daily in hospitals, some after having walked around three or four weeks thinking they have escaped.

"The doctors ... candidly confessed ... that the answer to the malady is beyond them." At one hospital, 200 of 343 admitted had died: "They are dead -- dead of atomic bomb -- and nobody knows why."

He closed this account with: "Twenty-five Americans are due to arrive Sept. 11 to study the Nagasaki bomb site. Japanese hope they will bring a solution for Disease X."

[Ian David]

1. Notice that I am not trying to de-bunk your post since it might be right

I just wanted to make sure you know that I realize that we're all on the same team, and that when I "call you" on something, it's not personal.

:grouphug:

This is the first I've heard of "Disease X."

Can you please post more?

Thanks!

[benito]

2. Disease X

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/08/05/1548255

ANTHONY WELLER:And over the next few days, he was as astonished as the Japanese doctors were, of course, by what he referred to in his reports as “Disease X.” It was perhaps not so astonishing to see some of the scorches and burns that people had suffered, but to see people apparently unblemished at all by the bomb, who had seemingly survived intact, suddenly finding themselves feeling unwell and going to hospital, sitting there on their cots surrounded by doctors and relatives who could do nothing, and finding when he would go back the next day that they had just died, or that -- let's say a woman who had come through unscathed making dinner for her husband and having the misfortune to make a very small cut in her finger while peeling a lemon, would just keep bleeding, and bleed to death, because the platelets in her bloodstream had been so reduced that the blood couldn’t clot anymore.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

5. In a very sort of obtuse way, perhaps even in a (reaching for

straws) sort of way, I feel that perhaps, just perhaps the 10s of thousands of Gulf War I veterans who are either disabled or dead may have experienced a little bit of what the inhabitants of Nagasaki did in short order.



http://www1.va.gov/rac-gwvi/page.cfm?pg=35

[uppityperson]

6. DU exposure (depleted uranium, not democraticunderground)?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

8. Oh no, not the underground.... the "really" bad stuff.... see further

postings... they will come from the NIH.

[Ian David]

10. The image in your post is way too big and it's screwing-up the formatting

Argh!

[HysteryDiagnosis]

Image gone.... yeah, that was bad.... sorry.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

12. Dupe self delete.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

11. The Naval Health Research Center ought to be a pretty good

source, ya think?


1: Toxicol Ind Health. 2001 Jun;17(5-10):180-91. Related Articles, Links


A review of the effects of uranium and depleted uranium exposure on reproduction and fetal development.

Arfsten DP, Still KR, Ritchie GD.

Naval Health Research Center Detachment-Toxicology, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base (WPAFB), Ohio 45433-7903, USA. [e-mail]

Depleted uranium (DU) is used in armor-penetrating munitions, military vehicle armor, and aircraft, ship and missile counterweighting/ballasting, as well as in a number of other military and commercial applications. Recent combat applications of DU alloy resulted in human acute exposure to DU dust, vapor or aerosol, as well as chronic exposure from tissue embedding of DU shrapnel fragments. DU alloy is 99.8% 238Uranium, and emits approximately 60% of the alpha, beta, and gamma radiation found in natural uranium (4.05 x 10(-7) Ci/g DU alloy). DU is a heavy metal that is 160% more dense than lead and can remain within the body for many years and slowly solubilize. High levels of urinary uranium have been measured in PGW veterans 10 years after exposure to DU fragments and vapors.

In rats, there is strong evidence of DU accumulation in tissues including testes, bone, kidneys, and brain. In vitro tests indicate that DU alloy may be both genotoxic and mutagenic, whereas a recent in vivo study suggests that tissue-embedded DU alloy may be carcinogenic in rats. There is limited available data for reproductive and teratological deficits from exposure to uranium per se, typically from oral, respiratory, or dermal exposure routes. Alternatively, there is no data available on the reproductive effects of DU embedded. This paper reviews published studies of reproductive toxicity in humans and animals from uranium or DU exposure, and discusses ongoing animal research to evaluate reproductive effects in male and female rats embedded with DU fragments, and possible consequences in F1 and F2 generations.

Publication Types:
Review
Review, Tutorial

PMID: 12539863

[uppityperson]

3. I think you are comparing GulfWarSyndrome with the (unknown) disease

The unknown disease, disease X, turned out to be radiation poisoning, and GWS is still unknown and hopefully will be figured out before they all die of it and it can be (safely, ha) ignored. Is this right?

[HysteryDiagnosis]

7. You bet I am..... I strongly believe that DU is a player in all of this

because there weren't any of Saddam's WMD's in Kosovo either. Damn them to hell those who decided to do this to the earth and its children.

1: Croat Med J. 2003 Oct;44(5):520-32. Related Articles, Links


Undiagnosed illnesses and radioactive warfare.

Durakovic A.

Uranium Medical Research Center, 3430 Connecticut Avenue/11854, Washington, DC 20008, USA. [e-mail]

The internal contamination with depleted uranium (DU) isotopes was detected in British, Canadian, and United States Gulf War veterans as late as nine years after inhalational exposure to radioactive dust in the Persian Gulf War I. DU isotopes were also identified in a Canadian veteran's autopsy samples of lung, liver, kidney, and bone. In soil samples from Kosovo, hundreds of particles, mostly less than 5 microm in size, were found in milligram quantities. Gulf War I in 1991 resulted in 350 metric tons of DU deposited in the environment and 3-6 million grams of DU aerosol released into the atmosphere. Its legacy, Gulf War disease, is a complex, progressive, incapacitating multiorgan system disorder. The symptoms include incapacitating fatigue, musculoskeletel and joint pains, headaches, neuropsychiatric disorders, affect changes, confusion, visual problems, changes of gait, loss of memory, lymphadenopathies, respiratory impairment, impotence, and urinary tract morphological and functional alterations. Current understanding of its etiology seems far from being adequate. After the Afghanistan Operation Anaconda (2002), our team studied the population of Jalalabad, Spin Gar, Tora Bora, and Kabul areas, and identified civilians with the symptoms similar to those of Gulf War syndrome. Twenty-four-hour urine samples from 8 symptomatic subjects were collected by the following criteria: 1) the onset of symptoms relative to the bombing raids; 2) physical presence in the area of the bombing; and 3) clinical manifestations. Control subjects were selected among the sympotom-free residents in non-targeted areas. All samples were analyzed for the concentration and ratio of four uranium isotopes, (234)U, (235)U, (236)U and (238)U, by using a multicollector, inductively coupled plasma ionization mass spectrometry. The first results from the Jalalabad province revealed urinary excretion of total uranium in all subjects significantly exceeding the values in the nonexposed population. The analysis of the isotopic ratios identified non-depleted uranium. Studies of specimens collected in 2002 revealed uranium concentrations up to 200 times higher in the districts of Tora Bora, Yaka Toot, Lal Mal, Makam Khan Farm, Arda Farm, Bibi Mahro, Poli Cherki, and the Kabul airport than in the control population. Uranium levels in the soil samples from the bombsites show values two to three times higher than worldwide concentration levels of 2 to 3 mg/kg and significantly higher concentrations in water than the World Health Organization maximum permissible levels. This growing body of evidence undoubtedly puts the problem of prevention and solution of the DU contamination high on the priority list.

Publication Types:
Editorial
Review
Review, Tutorial

PMID: 14515407

[bobbieinok]

14. Malloy on WLS was very anti Kosovo action.....he talked nightly about

the DU being spread over the area

this was the first I had heard of DU......my brother, career army reserve (was retired days before Gulf War I) had heard about DU but thought it nothing to worry about

at one point Malloy or a caller said there were plans to put DU in kitchen appliances b/c it made the metal much tougher......anyone here ever hear about this??

[HysteryDiagnosis]

9. Read this... and tell me why a half a million men and women cannot

take action, some sort of legal action that would bring this whole DU munitions thing to a very real standstill.

http://shininglight.us/mt/archives/2005/03/depleted_uraniu.html
“The VA Secretary (Principi) was aware of this fact as far back as 2000,” wrote Bernklau. “He, and the Bush administration have been hiding these facts, but now, thanks to Moret’s report, (it) ... is far too big to hide or to cover up!” "Terry Jamison, Public Affairs Specialist, Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, Department of Veterans Affairs, at the VA Central Office, recently reported that ‘Gulf Era Veterans’ now on medical disability, since 1991, number 518,739 Veterans,” said Berklau.

“The long-term effects have revealed that DU (uranium oxide) is a virtual death sentence,” stated Berklau. “Marion Fulk, a nuclear physical chemist, who retired from the Lawrence Livermore Nuclear Weapons Lab, and was also involved with the Manhattan Project, interprets the new and rapid malignancies in the soldiers (from the 2003 Iraq War) as ‘spectacular … and a matter of concern!’”

[benito]

13. More on DU from DN

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/07/0154228&mode=thread&tid=5
Wednesday, January 10th, 2001
Depleted Uranium Becomes a Radioactive Issue--at Least in Europe

It was only last month that NATO disclosed that US warplanes had fired 31,000 rounds in the 1999 campaign on targets mostly in Kosovo, but also in Serbia and Montenegro. In 1994 and 1995, Washington had fired some 10,000 rounds during attacks in Bosnia.

News broke last week that exposure to depleted uranium ammunition is the suspected cause of fatal cancers in six Italian soldiers and in promoting radiation-related illnesses around Europe.

The US however continues to insist that there is no link between exposure to DU and illness and death of veterans. Gulf Veterans, however, have long insisted that Gulf War Syndrome, a debilitating group of illnesses that have plagued Gulf Vets, is, in part, related to DU exposure. Some Gulf veterans tested for depleted uranium poisoning are said to had between 25 and 75 times the normal level of the chemical in their bodies.

And in Iraq, itself, the United Nations has implicated DU in a rise in cancers, especially in children.

[HysteryDiagnosis]

17. Well, the democracy and freedom has to have a few drawbacks. nt.

[bobbieinok]

15. I know only 2 Gulf War I vets: both black, former students, and both

on complete disability (govt paid their way to college)

[HysteryDiagnosis]

16. Do link them to this if you please.....

http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-143.shtml

Gulf War Syndrome
Updated: 06/10/2003

Causes
Extended Health Concerns
Why Not Everyone
Detoxification
Other Treatments
Summary
Gulf War syndrome (GWS), affecting a number of men and women who served in the Persian Gulf War, represents a group of medical and psychological complaints, including fatigue, respiratory illness, muscular pain, spasms, skin rash, memory loss, dizziness, peripheral numbness, and sleep disturbances. A 1996 VA study (Kang et al. 1996) reported that Gulf War veterans were 50% more likely to die in a motor vehicle accident than military personnel not sent to the Gulf War. Robert W. Haley, University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center, Dallas, reported similar findings but added in an article published by the Associated Press that the Gulf War veteran also has a higher rate of depression and suicide. Haley correlated these findings medically with individuals who have sustained brain injuries (Haley 1997; 1998; Haley et al. 1997a; 1997b).

Between August 1990 and March 1991, the U.S. deployed more than 697,000 troops in Operation Desert Shield and Operation Desert Storm. The majority of the troops were stationed in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, or aboard ships in the Red Sea. Of these, more than 100,000 (one in seven) have reported serious health concerns to the Department of Veterans Affairs or the Department of Defense. Unfortunately, some family members of those stricken gradually display signs and symptoms of the syndrome as well, suggesting an infectious explanation of the illness.


Speculative Causes of GWS

When causative factors are obscure and not unilaterally accepted, as in GWS, speculation oftentimes overrides a precise explanation. This appears true in GWS. Suppositions are many in regard to the contributory sequence that terminated in the physical and psychological symptoms familiar to veterans diagnosed with GWS.

The postulations being most scrutinized are exposure to toxins in the environment (such as oil fires), chemical and biological weapons, low-level uranium exposure, an immune reaction to a drug administered to protect against attacks of Soman (a nerve gas), dust, and even the immunizations (specifically, the anthrax vaccine and polio booster) given to the troops prior to deployment. Any of these theories could explain a state of unwellness when imposed upon a vulnerable host.

[madrchsod]

4. here`s the link that will provide some answers

http://www.gulfwarvets.com/index.html
American Gulfwar Veterans Association