Do your Freeper acquaintances use WWII analogies to justify the Iraq War?

[bluestateguy]

It seems to be such a common tactic. They feel this need to borrow moral authority for the Iraq war from a war that has been over for 60 years now. Saddam is Hitler, Osama is Hitler, Bush is Churchill and liberal Democrats are the appeasers (btw, Neville Chamberlin was a Conservative).

Their logic seems to be that because that war was justified, this one must therefore be of equal moral necessity. It's almost a tacit admission that the Iraq war cannot be justified on its own terms, without resorting to specious analogies from 60 years ago.

[Son of California]

1. Good one

people are always pulling this crap.

call them on it.

the Nazis were trying to take over the world, and were murdering people by the millions. We had no choice but to fight them.

compared to Hitler and the Nazis, Saddam Hussien was a pathetic little prick.

[Midnight Rambler]

4. Saddam really seems more like a wannabe Stalin

Or some kind of Banana Republic style dictator.

Although, the Hitler analogy does seem to fit when you take into account that in both cases, the Bush family facilitated the rise to power.

[Inland]

2. Well, it's the fact it's specious that's irritating.

They should compare Gulf One, where we declared war after Saddam actually DID agressively attack another nation and actually HAD a WMD program and WMD. And we stopped when those threats were ended.

[SkyIsGrey]

10. Then why not compare....

the Iran-Iraq war were "Saddam actually DID aggressively attack another nation and actually HAD a WMD program and WMD"? Which were oh so generoU.sly S.upplied by a nA.tion that will remain un-named. :sarcasm:

[Inland]

11. But that was DIFFERENT

then he was OUR aggressive attacking bastard. Welcome to DU.

[SkyIsGrey]

12. Who then?

Hitler or Saddam.

[bluestateguy]

13. Remember one thing

Saddam attacked Iran in 1980, long before the US was arming him up. The Carter Administration wanted nothing to do with him, even as Iran was holding our people hostage.

[mike_c]

3. what is this freeper acquaintance that you speak of...?

I can honestly say that I don't believe I know any republicans (outside of my own family, who I haven't talked to for years).

[candy]

6. How sad!

[mike_c]

7. sad that I don't know any republicans?

I live in a very liberal community in northern california. I think I'm rather lucky! Or sad that I'm estranged from my family? I'm 50 years old, and it's been a REALLY long time (I left home at 15), so there's no sadness there.

[getmeouttahere]

5. I don't talk to freepers anymore...

and not only do I not see freeper relatives as much as before, when I do see them I avoid the subject whenever possible.

[Trajan]

8. It is a competely fallacious gambit ...

Nazi Germany rampaged across Europe, invading and occupying most of the European nations, but Iraq was within it's own borders: completely contained on their own land .....

Nazi Germany possessed a horrific army of massive proportions, beyond what was necessary for thier own defense, using technical prowess and superior design to create a powerful military machine second to NONE on the earth ....

What was Iraq's army ? .... Two camels and a peashooter ? ...

Hmmmmmmmm ... WHICH nation NOW possesses the greatest, most powerful army that is SECOND TO NONE on this earth ? ...

WHICH nation used their army to cross an internationally recognized border without being legitimately threatened by the nation inside of that border ? ...

WHO invaded WHO ? ...

I think that comparisons with Nazi Germany are QUITE apt, actually, though they are NOT the comparisons which they will expect .... The analogy between the US and Nazi Germany, however one wishes to hide from the truth, are, unfortunately, justified based on those points ....

They are proper analogies ....

It makes me sad to say it, though ....

[FloridaPat]

9. Well, the only one today invading countries is *. So that would make

* = Hitler. Saddam is a 2 bit dictator who tortured some of his people. There are a lot of them. Asama doesn't even lead a country. He invaded no one. Saddam invaded Kuwait with approval of Bush1.

Patriotism seems to be a disease. I never realized it before until 9-11. I thought we were beyond that but I guess not. Where do you go or what do you do when you realize the real enemy is your own country? This is too much to take for most people. Even my 89 year old life-time Democratic father sprouts the patriotic rhetoric. He was in the navy and lost a brother in WW2.